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Post by sayne on Nov 24, 2015 20:28:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 3:45:32 GMT -5
Thanks sayne, great article on George. I've had the All Things Must Pass album on continuous rotation on my car stereo this week. It's a 90 kilometre round trip for work each day so i get to listen to it many times over. Awesome.
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Post by lowbasso on Nov 25, 2015 8:38:56 GMT -5
Can you imagine if John or Paul had said in 1969; "Let's do a whole Beatles album of new George songs that we will all work on together." Getting Paul to go for that would have been a real challenge, but if it had happened it might have extended the life of the band a little longer than 1970.
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Post by markc on Nov 25, 2015 10:12:38 GMT -5
Didn't Kiss do that in the seventies. Four separate albums?
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Post by stavros on Nov 26, 2015 15:27:17 GMT -5
Can you imagine if John or Paul had said in 1969; "Let's do a whole Beatles album of new George songs that we will all work on together." Getting Paul to go for that would have been a real challenge, but if it had happened it might have extended the life of the band a little longer than 1970. Back when I was younger, and so was the internet, I listened through a stack of Let it Be outtakes. One of these features a conversation between John and George. George is talking about the backlog of songs he had piling up and how he'd like to get them out within the framework of the Beatles. John was sort of agreeing with him but offering very little encouragement at the same time. Had things been different, and the Beatles taken a break instead of splitting up, I could see the Beatles all agreeing to work on songs on a George solo album. But I could never see a whole album of George songs under a Beatles moniker. It was always a vehicle for Lennon and McCartney music and an album of just Harrisongs seems highly improbable.
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Post by kc on Nov 26, 2015 16:10:38 GMT -5
Didn't Kiss do that in the seventies. Four separate albums? I've thought of this concept before. I was thinking along the lines of a Beatles version of John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band being released in 1970 (the date of the actual release was August, wasn't it?). Follow this with a single disc Beatles version of All Things Must Pass six or so months later, in 1971. Then a Beatles version of Ram for Christmas 1971. I'm not sure about Ringo; he might have had to wait until 1973 if they still managed to stick together.
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Post by Panther on Nov 27, 2015 7:09:11 GMT -5
I was thinking along the lines of a Beatles version of John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band being released in 1970 (the date of the actual release was August, wasn't it?). December, 1970 -- two weeks after 'All Things Must Pass'.
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Post by kc on Nov 27, 2015 15:05:35 GMT -5
Oh, yeah, that's right.
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Post by markc on Nov 29, 2015 21:45:30 GMT -5
Can you imagine if John or Paul had said in 1969; "Let's do a whole Beatles album of new George songs that we will all work on together." Getting Paul to go for that would have been a real challenge, but if it had happened it might have extended the life of the band a little longer than 1970. Paul probably would have done it to keep the group together but I doubt I John would have gone for it. Maybe he would have if they hadn't nixed Cold Turkey.
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Post by markc on Nov 29, 2015 21:46:09 GMT -5
Plus, let's remember George on this day.
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 29, 2015 22:20:38 GMT -5
Can you imagine if John or Paul had said in 1969; "Let's do a whole Beatles album of new George songs that we will all work on together." Getting Paul to go for that would have been a real challenge, but if it had happened it might have extended the life of the band a little longer than 1970. Paul probably would have done it to keep the group together but I doubt I John would have gone for it. Maybe he would have if they hadn't nixed Cold Turkey. I don't believe they would have even thought of recording an all George album. I'm sure they would have all guest starred on the other's solo albums but they were too into themselves and what they were doing at the time to for it to occur to them. If George had said, "We're not going to tour. What I need to stay with the band is for us to do an album of all my songs. We can do it for each of us and then we can do Paul's TV project." They may have committed to doing it but it would have fallen apart quicker than Get Back did. They were all too self centered at the time. I'm not saying that as a criticism. We all are that way, especially at that age. Paul now says he has no regrets but I'd bet if he was sent back to his Let it Be self, 1969, he may have be able to sell the idea. But the other Beatles would have probably gotten spooked by it. And besides "All Paul want's to do is hug these days".
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 29, 2015 22:29:58 GMT -5
Plus, let's remember George on this day. I didn't realize this was the day. It always seems like it was later in the year to me. I did listen to some Beatles, band and solo, earlier today. I think George's music works better, for me anyway, when you pick out the songs. I either didn't like the album as a whole, did not rock enough at the time, or just kind of got tired of them. He had a great catalog though. A lot of cool stuff. I'm surprised there hasn't been more outtakes released. The disc with The Material World set was awesome.
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Post by markc on Nov 30, 2015 8:40:19 GMT -5
Let's keep our fingers crossed for Vol. 2.
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Post by John S. Damm on Dec 7, 2015 16:54:15 GMT -5
Let's keep our fingers crossed for Vol. 2. We had all hoped that the "Vol. 1" tag meant that more were coming.
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 7, 2015 18:23:39 GMT -5
I doubted there would be a Volume 2.
But I was sure there would be a Volume 3.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 17, 2016 16:28:16 GMT -5
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Post by nine on Feb 17, 2016 20:31:53 GMT -5
Can you imagine if John or Paul had said in 1969; "Let's do a whole Beatles album of new George songs that we will all work on together." Getting Paul to go for that would have been a real challenge, but if it had happened it might have extended the life of the band a little longer than 1970. I think some of the tracks on All Things would have sounded better had the Beatles done them (and George Martin). I was never a huge fan of the title track. If its production was more like Something and Here Comes The Sun I reckon it would have been so much better... I doubt the Beatles could have bettered What is Life though which to me is perfect pop in its arrangement and execution. I gotta give that one to Phil.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 17, 2016 22:13:21 GMT -5
Can you imagine if John or Paul had said in 1969; "Let's do a whole Beatles album of new George songs that we will all work on together." Getting Paul to go for that would have been a real challenge, but if it had happened it might have extended the life of the band a little longer than 1970. I think some of the tracks on All Things would have sounded better had the Beatles done them (and George Martin). I was never a huge fan of the title track. If its production was more like Something and Here Comes The Sun I reckon it would have been so much better... I doubt the Beatles could have bettered What is Life though which to me is perfect pop in its arrangement and execution. I gotta give that one to Phil. I gotta give the whole album to Phil, along with George. I mean, ALL THINGS MUST PASS is a classic album. It is often considered the all-time, #1 Best Solo Album. JUST AS IT ALREADY IS. I think to "Beatle-ize" it would have made it something other than what it became, and it would be all the less for it. In my view, life didn't end when The Beatles ceased to be, and not everything need be somehow attached to The Beatles when it comes to the four individuals.
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Post by nine on Feb 17, 2016 22:25:42 GMT -5
I agree. Unlike 99% of All Things Must Pass (the song) fans, I am not a fan of its production. I was only talking to my brother about this not long ago and he thought I was mad.
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Post by debjorgo on Feb 17, 2016 23:07:17 GMT -5
Completely contrary to what I said earlier in this thread on Harrison's song catalog, I think the songs from All Things Must Pass work better in the framework of the whole album. Except for the hits, the songs benefit from being played together. They seem to have less power when you pull them out and play them with other songs. A good song should sound good next to a good song, regardless of the artist or style.
Some songs defy this logic.
This may be Spector's production.
Put me down as a fan of the album though. It's great!.
Not as good as McCartney but....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 5:31:45 GMT -5
Completely contrary to what I said earlier in this thread on Harrison's song catalog, I think the songs from All Things Must Pass work better in the framework of the whole album. Except for the hits, the songs benefit from being played together. They seem to have less power when you pull them out and play them with other songs. A good song should sound good next to a good song, regardless of the artist or style. Some songs defy this logic. This may be Spector's production. Put me down as a fan of the album though. It's great!. Not as good as McCartney but.... I think we knew where this critique was really coming from, Deb McCartney
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Post by debjorgo on Feb 18, 2016 18:18:44 GMT -5
I think George's music works better, for me anyway, when you pick out the songs. I either didn't like the album as a whole, did not rock enough at the time, or just kind of got tired of them. He had a great catalog though. A lot of cool stuff. I think we knew where this critique was really coming from, Deb McCartney Yeah, a McCartney fan who loves his George Harrison! I realize a smiley might had been advised though. I've added it now.
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