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Post by debjorgo on Apr 25, 2016 22:40:40 GMT -5
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Post by coachbk on May 1, 2016 15:24:56 GMT -5
Link wouldn't open for me. What are the top 10? (I would expect Hey Jude and I Want To Hold Your Hand to both be there if it is based on chart position. If it is someone's opinion, then who knows?
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Post by debjorgo on May 1, 2016 16:21:17 GMT -5
Link wouldn't open for me. What are the top 10? (I would expect Hey Jude and I Want To Hold Your Hand to both be there if it is based on chart position. If it is someone's opinion, then who knows? 10. Turn Turn Turn - song with the oldest lyrics. 9. Oh, Pretty Woman 8. Light My Fire 7. The Sound of Silence 6. Good Vibrations 5. Suspicious Minds 4. I Want to Hold Your Hand 3. House of the Rising Sun 2. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction 1. Hey Jude Based on chart performance but also on social impact. So it is a little subjective. Come Together is mentioned among others as an honorable mention. Hey Jude is labeled as "Quite possibly the best pop song of all time".
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Post by coachbk on May 5, 2016 10:42:21 GMT -5
Link wouldn't open for me. What are the top 10? (I would expect Hey Jude and I Want To Hold Your Hand to both be there if it is based on chart position. If it is someone's opinion, then who knows? 10. Turn Turn Turn - song with the oldest lyrics. 9. Oh, Pretty Woman 8. Light My Fire 7. The Sound of Silence 6. Good Vibrations 5. Suspicious Minds 4. I Want to Hold Your Hand 3. House of the Rising Sun 2. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction 1. Hey Jude Based on chart performance but also on social impact. So it is a little subjective. Come Together is mentioned among others as an honorable mention. Hey Jude is labeled as "Quite possibly the best pop song of all time". Good list! Give Me You Really Got Me in place of Oh Pretty Woman, substitute Mr. Tambourine Man for Turn Turn Turn (to get a Dylan song in there) and replace Elvis with a Motown or soul song (Respect, My Girl) and it would be even better!
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Post by John S. Damm on May 5, 2016 12:29:40 GMT -5
Okay, I guess the chart thing pimped Dylan but how the hell do you have a list of the Top 10 songs from the 1960's and "Like A Rolling Stone" is not on it!? That should be #1, that or The Stones "Satisfaction" in terms of "cultural impact." What cultural impact did "Hey Jude" have? I understand saying that about "Hand," as that song was the very start of the British Invasion! "Hey Jude" was a great song until Paul whored it out starting on the 89/90 World Tour. "And now the people in the middle seats," "And now just the wee lassies," "You were great, and you were great and you were great." At least Paul never got the cherry-picker out again as he did in 1993! Poor Linda got in there with Paul and she looked like she would blow spew over the crowd under her!
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Post by debjorgo on May 5, 2016 18:57:56 GMT -5
I think Hey Jude got in for being "Quite possibly the best pop song of all time". Also, I believe, it was the only song to spend 9 weeks at number 1 in that era.
I agree that Like a Rolling Stone should be on the list for its impact at the time, although it never was a favorite song of mine.
I don't agree with Coach's substitutions at all. I might give him the Mr. Tambourine Man switch with Turn Turn Turn, assuming he does mean the Byrds version.
I think I understand why he would go with the You Really Got Me substitution, but I might go with My Generation instead. Although, neither song went to number 1.
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Post by debjorgo on May 5, 2016 19:02:53 GMT -5
... Give Me You Really Got Me in place of Oh Pretty Woman, .... I think they mean the Roy Orbison version and not the Van Halen version. But I do like their version of both songs.
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Post by coachbk on May 5, 2016 19:39:32 GMT -5
I think Hey Jude got in for being "Quite possibly the best pop song of all time". Also, I believe, it was the only song to spend 9 weeks at number 1 in that era. I agree that Like a Rolling Stone should be on the list for its impact at the time, although it never was a favorite song of mine. I don't agree with Coach's substitutions at all. I might give him the Mr. Tambourine Man switch with Turn Turn Turn, assuming he does mean the Byrds version. I think I understand why he would go with the You Really Got Me substitution, but I might go with My Generation instead. Although, neither song went to number 1. Yes I mean the Byrds version of Mr. Tambourine Man. That way we get a Dylan written song. I prefer that over Dylan's version by a wide margin. I also prefer it to Like A Rolling Stone (though that song is a worthy contender for this list). Wow I didn't even notice Satisfaction wasn't in there. I love My Generation too, but that wasn't even a top 40 hit in the US at the time. No question limiting singles of the 60's to 10 songs is a difficult task!
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Post by debjorgo on May 5, 2016 20:19:13 GMT -5
I think Hey Jude got in for being "Quite possibly the best pop song of all time". Also, I believe, it was the only song to spend 9 weeks at number 1 in that era. I agree that Like a Rolling Stone should be on the list for its impact at the time, although it never was a favorite song of mine. I don't agree with Coach's substitutions at all. I might give him the Mr. Tambourine Man switch with Turn Turn Turn, assuming he does mean the Byrds version. I think I understand why he would go with the You Really Got Me substitution, but I might go with My Generation instead. Although, neither song went to number 1. Yes I mean the Byrds version of Mr. Tambourine Man. That way we get a Dylan written song. I prefer that over Dylan's version by a wide margin. I also prefer it to Like A Rolling Stone (though that song is a worthy contender for this list). Wow I didn't even notice Satisfaction wasn't in there. I love My Generation too, but that wasn't even a top 40 hit in the US at the time. No question limiting singles of the 60's to 10 songs is a difficult task! (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction is number 2. John was just saying he thought it was a good contender for number 1.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 5, 2016 23:22:38 GMT -5
As much as I like HEY JUDE (though I am mighty tired of hearing it these days), I don't think it deserves to be #1 at all. I can see why songs like SATISFACTION, MY GENERATION, and LIKE A ROLLING STONE would be contenders, and it got me to thinking that The Beatles don't really have any similarly "generational" theme.. do they? (Perhaps REVOLUTION is closest, but it's not necessarily a top song from them). Maybe the closest is A DAY IN THE LIFE...?
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Post by debjorgo on May 5, 2016 23:55:42 GMT -5
As much as I like HEY JUDE (though I am mighty tired of hearing it these days), I don't think it deserves to be #1 at all. I can see why songs like SATISFACTION, MY GENERATION, and LIKE A ROLLING STONE would be contenders, and it got me to thinking that The Beatles don't really have any similarly "generational" theme.. do they? (Perhaps REVOLUTION is closest, but it's not necessarily a top song from them). Maybe the closest is A DAY IN THE LIFE...? It's Billboard. It's a chart thing. Hey Jude was number 1 on the charts for 9 weeks. The only song to do this. Hey Jude is number 10 on the All-time Billboard Hot 100. Hey Jude was the only song that did not require a judgment call. It is the obvious Billboard number 1 song of the decade. Under it, is where the debate is.
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Post by debjorgo on May 6, 2016 0:19:19 GMT -5
In case the horse is not dead yet, Hey Jude is certified 4 X Platinum for 4,000,000 sells.
Satisfaction may have done better with 1 X Gold for 500,000 in sells. Yeah, yeah. That too close to call.
My Generation and Like a Rolling Stone were certified "What, I don't understand the question? Certified?" So, yeah, they're in the running too for Billboard sells chart top performers.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 6, 2016 12:14:42 GMT -5
If the criteria was only "cultural impact," yeah "A Day In The Life" might be number 1! SFF might be in the Top 10!
I like Debjorgo's suggestion of "My Generation!" I have never been a huge, unquestioning Who fan but in 1980 when I first heard "My Generation," I thought that was the coolest 1960's song of them all and that was when I was all-Beatles, all the time!
I don't know why I hadn't heard "My Generation" earlier in life but I hadn't and I was 17 when I heard it the Summer of 1980 and it was as revolutionary to me as it must have been to kids upon release in the U.S. on October 29, 1965!
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Post by coachbk on May 9, 2016 20:50:36 GMT -5
If the criteria was only "cultural impact," yeah "A Day In The Life" might be number 1! SFF might be in the Top 10! I like Debjorgo's suggestion of "My Generation!" I have never been a huge, unquestioning Who fan but in 1980 when I first heard "My Generation," I thought that was the coolest 1960's song of them all and that was when I was all-Beatles, all the time! I don't know why I hadn't heard "My Generation" earlier in life but I hadn't and I was 17 when I heard it the Summer of 1980 and it was as revolutionary to me as it must have been to kids upon release in the U.S. on October 29, 1965! Probably the reason you never heard it was that it wasn't a hit in the US. I don't think I heard "My Generation" until I bought MEATY BEATY BIG AND BOUNCY my freshman year in college. I knew WHO'S NEXT, but I didn't know a lot of early Who. "I Can See For Miles", "Magic Bus", and "Pinball Wizard" were the only songs I knew. I too flipped out over "My Generation". Then when THE KIDS ARE ALRIGHT movie came out I became a big Who fan. They are probably my 3rd favorite group behind the Beatles and the Kinks!
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