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Post by sayne on Jun 22, 2016 11:57:26 GMT -5
Here's an interesting article that might get many all riled up. I get what he is saying, but I'm sure many will react strongly to his thesis of how possibly wrong our common historical knowledge of art, science, politics, culture, sports, etc could be and how our beliefs of how things WILL BE in the future could be all wrong. He's not a history denier, but a believer in how perceptions and bias prevent us from really knowing or predicting. We think the Beatles will ALWAYS be admired, but perhaps not. www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/interviews/a45914/chuck-klosterman-interview-but-what-if-were-wrong/
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Post by debjorgo on Jun 22, 2016 17:29:29 GMT -5
History will view the 20th Century as the century of the Beatles. Rock and Roll might be mentioned in the footnotes.
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Post by sayne on Jun 22, 2016 17:55:57 GMT -5
History will view the 20th Century as the century of the Beatles. Rock and Roll might be mentioned in the footnotes. I agree with you about the Beatles, but as the writer posits, this ONLY works if people in the future THINK the way we think. We see things through "Western" eyes, by way of Greece and Rome and Christianity. The future could be seen through Indo-Asian eyes by way of Hinduism. Just as we could not care less about some singer in Kenya, future earthlings might have no historical interest in the Beatles or Dylan or even Shakespeare.
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Post by debjorgo on Jun 22, 2016 18:23:15 GMT -5
History will view the 20th Century as the century of the Beatles. Rock and Roll might be mentioned in the footnotes. I agree with you about the Beatles, but as the writer posits, this ONLY works if people in the future THINK the way we think. We see things through "Western" eyes, by way of Greece and Rome and Christianity. The future could be seen through Indo-Asian eyes by way of Hinduism. Just as we could not care less about some singer in Kenya, future earthlings might have no historical interest in the Beatles or Dylan or even Shakespeare. Understood, but I flipped the coin on the author. In the future, they won't be trying to define Rock and Roll and use Chuck Berry to do it. They will have no interest in Rock and Roll. The Beatles will be the subject not Rock and Roll, because they won't be thinking like we do
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Post by sayne on Jun 22, 2016 21:23:49 GMT -5
I agree with you about the Beatles, but as the writer posits, this ONLY works if people in the future THINK the way we think. We see things through "Western" eyes, by way of Greece and Rome and Christianity. The future could be seen through Indo-Asian eyes by way of Hinduism. Just as we could not care less about some singer in Kenya, future earthlings might have no historical interest in the Beatles or Dylan or even Shakespeare. Understood, but I flipped the coin on the author. In the future, they won't be trying to define Rock and Roll and use Chuck Berry to do it. They will have no interest in Rock and Roll. The Beatles will be the subject not Rock and Roll, because they won't be thinking like we do I'll let you know if you end up being right.
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Post by markc on Jun 24, 2016 13:02:44 GMT -5
Historical context will depend on whether people still tend to like the music or not. Fabian was pretty big in his time, but how many people are still buying his records? I think the Fabs will stand up ok.
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Post by vectisfabber on Jun 27, 2016 3:33:02 GMT -5
I shall be dead, at which point I doubt whether I shall care very much.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jun 27, 2016 5:00:54 GMT -5
I shall be dead, at which point I doubt whether I shall care very much. I guess that's why the question was what will the FUTURE think of The Beatles, not "How will YOU feel about The Beatles in the future?"
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jun 27, 2016 5:02:36 GMT -5
We think the Beatles will ALWAYS be admired, but perhaps not. That's what they said as early as 1964. Yet here we are over 50 years after their heyday, and they're still admired. I don't think it will ever completely cease.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 27, 2016 10:04:35 GMT -5
We think the Beatles will ALWAYS be admired, but perhaps not. That's what they said as early as 1964. Yet here we are over 50 years after their heyday, and they're still admired. I don't think it will ever completely cease. Just SPLHCB will be considered shite in the future like Keith Richards predicts.
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Post by lowbasso on Jun 27, 2016 13:20:42 GMT -5
That's what they said as early as 1964. Yet here we are over 50 years after their heyday, and they're still admired. I don't think it will ever completely cease. Just SPLHCB will be considered shite in the future like Keith Richards predicts. Ah, that JSD. Always with the jokes.....
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Post by debjorgo on Jun 27, 2016 17:28:14 GMT -5
That's what they said as early as 1964. Yet here we are over 50 years after their heyday, and they're still admired. I don't think it will ever completely cease. Just SPLHCB will be considered shite in the future like Keith Richards predicts. In a hundred years, nobody's going to know who Keith Richards is. Unless he wears his name tag.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jun 27, 2016 17:33:45 GMT -5
That's what they said as early as 1964. Yet here we are over 50 years after their heyday, and they're still admired. I don't think it will ever completely cease. Just SPLHCB will be considered shite in the future like Keith Richards predicts. Meh, who cares what that walking dead man thinks? SPLHCB will be remembered far longer than he will.
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Post by vectisfabber on Jun 28, 2016 3:27:25 GMT -5
I shall be dead, at which point I doubt whether I shall care very much. I guess that's why the question was what will the FUTURE think of The Beatles, not "How will YOU feel about The Beatles in the future?" I shan't care about the question!
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Post by lowbasso on Jun 28, 2016 7:28:54 GMT -5
Just SPLHCB will be considered shite in the future like Keith Richards predicts. In a hundred years, nobody's going to know who Keith Richards is. Unless he wears his name tag. At least science now knows what the first human being who lives 200 years will look like. That is a significant contribution to the human race.......
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Post by mikev on Jun 29, 2016 8:51:49 GMT -5
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 29, 2016 21:31:59 GMT -5
That video never gets old! LMAO!
As suggested in the video, man always gets history wrong so in 200 years historians will think The Monkees were the most innovative Pop Group ever and The Beatles were copies of them!
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 17, 2016 20:12:47 GMT -5
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