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Post by sayne on Feb 22, 2018 13:14:59 GMT -5
Not to get morbid, but I was thinking today about what a George-like Concert for Paul would look like. So, I thought I'd put it up for discussion. So, here are the rules:
1. Pick someone to be the musical director. 2. Pick only musicians who were good friends of Paul and who have played with him. The key is friends - real friends, not passing acquaintances who happen to have been lucky to share a stage or mic with him. (You don't have to assign who sings what or the order of the set.) 3. By my count, in the Concert for George, there were 11 songs he did with the Beatles, 9 solo songs, and 2 he probably liked. So, choose your songs with these numbers.
Here's what I've come up as my choices:
* Musical Director - Elvis Costello
* Musicians - Billy Joel, Brian Wilson, Ringo, Denny Laine, Klaus Voorman, Abe/Wix/Rusty/Brian (backing as players throughout), Dave Gilmour, Dhani/Julian/James/Sean (no major roles), Dave Grohl, Steve Miller, Pete Townshend, Stevie Wonder,and Youth.
Along with the above players, I'd pepper in singers like Donovan, James Taylor, Stella, and Lulu.
And, in a slight violation of my rules, I might try to find some place for the Gallagher Brothers (separately, of course).
I'm torn whether to include Clapton and Keith Richards.
* Songs - Yesterday, Hey Jude, Let It Be, Here There and Everywhere, Helter Skelter, Penny Lane, Back in the USSR, For No One, I've Got a Feeling, Abbey Road closing medley, Another Girl, Maybe I'm Amazed, Every Night, Uncle Albert, Your Way, Oh Woman Oh Why, Calico Skies, Live and Let Die, Sing the Changes, Venus and Mars/Rock Show (as opener), God Only Knows, True Love Ways (last song)
Certainly on another day, I'd come up with others, but this was my "top of my head" list.
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Post by markc on Feb 22, 2018 14:31:07 GMT -5
This may seem mean, but I don't think the Concert for George concept would apply well to Paul. What made the Concert for George so great was its loose relationship to the Concert for Bangladesh (Indian music intro, many of the key participants), in addition to the "dark horse" nature of both George and his songs and the spiritual aspect. Finally, I don't think Paul has engendered the same fierce loyalty of friends that George had.
Don't get me wrong, Paul would deserve a great tribute and will probably get one. But there was something otherworldly special about the Concert for George.
I would think Bruce Springsteen and Dave Grohl would be involved.
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Post by markc on Feb 22, 2018 14:32:54 GMT -5
Plus, Paul would insist on closing the show!
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Post by sayne on Feb 22, 2018 20:03:18 GMT -5
This may seem mean, but I don't think the Concert for George concept would apply well to Paul. What made the Concert for George so great was its loose relationship to the Concert for Bangladesh (Indian music intro, may of the key participants), in addition to the "dark horse" nature of both George and his songs and the spiritual aspect. Finally, I don't think Paul has engendered the same fierce loyalty of friends that George had. Don't get me wrong, Paul would deserve a great tribute and will probably get one. But there was something otherworldly special about the Concert for George. I would think Bruce Springsteen and Dave Grohl would be involved. You're right. I did have the impression that Paul did not have the same circle of musical friends, nor the same type of relationships with his friends that George had. I wasn't looking to mimic the Concert for George note for note or emotion for emotion. (By the way, you my not know it, but I was at the concert and I've commented that it was a fairly sedate affair. It did not feel like a rock concert. Thank goodness for Monty Python. It's like people did not know if they should celebrate or reflect. Maybe it was a British thing. Maybe it was an age thing. I don't know, but it certainly wasn't a rock and roll feeling show. Great show, but very low key. Anyway, I was looking at this more as an exercise, using George's concert at the guide. Certainly, Paul's will end up being different, dare I say not that emotional. But, at the same time, I wager that it would be rather lame with his sycophants going on and on and on about his greatness. Or, worse yet, bring out a bunch of pop types to sing his songs like One Direction, the Spice Girls, Adele, Kanye West, Lily Allen, Tom Jones That was what was great about George's concert. Eric took great pains to select the right songs and to select the right musicians to play. That's why I thought it would be interesting to see if people here could do the same thing with a Paul concert.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 24, 2018 2:50:32 GMT -5
My worst nightmare is that Sheryl Crow and John Mayer will be headliners! What a shame that John Lennon never got a good tribute concert! There was that concert in Liverpool that suffered from the performers for the most part not knowing John at all and then there was that TV Special hosted by disgraced Hollywood sexual predator Kevin Spacey who ended the show with the most horrid version ever of "Mind Games!" We know that Quincy Jones will not be musical director of a Macca Tribute! That was funny Markc, Paul insisting on closing the show! A dead Paul singing "The End Of The End" or "That Day Is Done!" Really, Paul's last several years of tours seems like a dead Paul up there croaking!
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Post by sayne on Feb 24, 2018 18:16:20 GMT -5
My worst nightmare is that Sheryl Crow and John Mayer will be headliners . . . Really, Paul's last several years of tours seems like a dead Paul up there croaking! Your worst nightmare is what will probably happen, rather than what I concocted. Yes, Paul's voice isn't pristine, but do you really think Paul has been figuratively dead on stage the last few tours? I thought you saw him and thought it was great. All reviews have thought it was great, and everyone here (I think) who have seen him have thought he was great, too. Curious.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 24, 2018 23:38:48 GMT -5
My worst nightmare is that Sheryl Crow and John Mayer will be headliners . . . Really, Paul's last several years of tours seems like a dead Paul up there croaking! Your worst nightmare is what will probably happen, rather than what I concocted. Yes, Paul's voice isn't pristine, but do you really think Paul has been figuratively dead on stage the last few tours? I thought you saw him and thought it was great. All reviews have thought it was great, and everyone here (I think) who have seen him have thought he was great, too. Curious. Sorry sayne, that last bit was to jerk your chain a little! Yeah, I enjoyed Paul last July and my girlfriend really liked it which improved my disposition towards the whole thing!
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Post by sayne on Feb 25, 2018 12:35:39 GMT -5
Your worst nightmare is what will probably happen, rather than what I concocted. Yes, Paul's voice isn't pristine, but do you really think Paul has been figuratively dead on stage the last few tours? I thought you saw him and thought it was great. All reviews have thought it was great, and everyone here (I think) who have seen him have thought he was great, too. Curious. Sorry sayne, that last bit was to jerk your chain a little! Yeah, I enjoyed Paul last July and my girlfriend really liked it which improved my disposition towards the whole thing! Got me.
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Post by markc on Mar 16, 2018 12:47:26 GMT -5
Another reason the concept may not work as well for Paul is that because George passed away at a much younger age, the performances by his contemporaries could still look and sound pretty good.
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 18, 2018 2:30:28 GMT -5
If Paul were to die now, I would expect the best of the best to perform even if they were not friends or close to Paul but Paul's stature in the realm of Rock would demand nothing less.
Paul's(and John's) influence on Rock demands that Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Aretha Franklin, Joni Mitchell, The Who, Pink Floyd, Bruce Springsteen, U2, Stevie Wonder and every other true A-lister perform at such a tribute concert.
Paul doesn't have a "band of brothers" like George did so it cannot be like The Concert For George where every performer was a long-time and dear friend of Paul's because he doesn't seem to have friends like that.
It is a crime that John Lennon never got such deserved recognition from A-lister contemporaries but rather has had tributes through the years by younger, lesser artists.
But with Paul, we will probably just get assholes like Sheryl Crow and John Mayer trying to advance their own careers using the death of Macca.
I am just saying Dylan and the Stones better be there assuming they survive Paul! Only legends like that would be worthy.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 7, 2018 7:01:28 GMT -5
There's a tribute show Tuesday night for Elton John. I'm Still Standing - A Grammy Salute. I know this isn't the same as a Concert For Elton show but it is a high profile tribute show. Why isn't Paul participating?
It reminds me of the Yogi Berra quote, "If you don't go to people's funerals, they won't go to your's".
Who's Elton got? Alessia Cara, Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, Miranda Lambert, John Legend, Kesha, Little Big Town, Chris Martin, Shawn Mendes, Maren Morris, Ed Sheeran, Sam Smith and SZA. God awful, if you ask me! I had it programmed in until I saw the performers. Chris Martin is the only one I'd be vaguely interested in hearing, but not surrounded by this dreck.
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 7, 2018 10:17:49 GMT -5
Some of those performers are okay. But they are not who I am talking about for Paul at the end of the end!
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