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Post by OldFred on Jan 18, 2009 16:15:17 GMT -5
Let's all just eat some chicken and calm down. Be more than happy to, Joe. I extended the olive branch and the ball is in the opposite court now. Let's see how the play goes.
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Post by sayne on Jan 18, 2009 16:55:13 GMT -5
Let's all just eat some chicken and calm down. Be more than happy to, Joe. I extended the olive branch and the ball is in the opposite court now. Let's see how the play goes. Extend an olive branch to a vegetarian while eating chicken. I guess bombs are "peacekeepers" . . . . . . I'm just sayin'.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 18, 2009 16:58:57 GMT -5
There's one of those misleading emoticons again!
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Post by revolver66 on Jan 18, 2009 23:02:53 GMT -5
. . . Next why don't you just get to the point and say who these people actually are that you are describing in your post above . . . I won't have to do the work because the people who respond negatively or defensively will be the ones I'm talking about. (Yes, I know, my response will probably deter people from proving me right.) Cop Out..lol! I just couldn't resist ;D
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Post by sayne on Jan 24, 2009 0:56:38 GMT -5
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Post by OldFred on Jan 24, 2009 6:52:03 GMT -5
I'm verklempt!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 24, 2009 11:53:00 GMT -5
I'm verklempt! That mock album cover of The Beatles is one of the coolest ones I have seen where later pictures of the guys are put together to create a full group portrait. It is weird that John doesn't even look out of place although he was probably 20 years younger than Ringo, Paul and George were in their images there. As to ABBA, I love that photo! The women are as beautiful as ever. It drives home how robbed the world was that The Beatles could never have a real picture of all four together, even if it was just for a premier like LOVE or something.
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Post by mikev on Jan 24, 2009 15:24:02 GMT -5
How about this one?.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 24, 2009 17:33:31 GMT -5
How about this one?. That is cool too! A 1974 Beatles' album!
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Post by mikev on Jan 24, 2009 18:00:44 GMT -5
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Post by ChokingSmoker on Jan 26, 2009 20:40:33 GMT -5
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Post by mikev on Jan 26, 2009 22:08:37 GMT -5
They kicked him out when he wanted to change the name to the Blaggles.
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Post by Panther on Jan 27, 2009 3:18:47 GMT -5
I can't take Abba too seriously since they were purely pop stars -- nothing wrong with that: their melodies, arrangements, and voices were heavenly -- but at the end of the day their lyrics were inane (well, they weren't even English speakers) and I don't think they made any cultural contribution or earned critical accolades from their most distinguished peers. I don't think the music of our times would have been one iota different with or without their existence. They were suitable ear-candy for the me-generation.
Having said that, their artistic contributon was, for years, highly under-rated, especially in light of such over-rated jingle-makers like Andrew Lloyd Webber, whose cheesy compositions Abba's most resemble in lightweight singalong fluff standards.
I do find Abba's pop music much better and with more likeihood to endure than today's forgettable teen crap.
And that blonde chick was pretty hot, in a 70s kind of way. Mamma Mia!
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Post by sayne on Jan 27, 2009 8:39:12 GMT -5
. . . but at the end of the day their lyrics were inane You have the right not to like ABBA, so I won't argue on that point. To each his/her own. However, this statement, suggests to me that you MIGHT not have delved too deeply into their work. Pretty pop melodies, yes. "Inane lyrics"? Not completely true. If you care, invite me to post some lyrics.
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Post by johnpaulharstar on Jan 27, 2009 11:33:58 GMT -5
Abba vs Paul McCartney solo might actually be a debate, though I would still say McCartney wins easily because he has more variety and is better at both rockers and ballads.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 27, 2009 12:16:12 GMT -5
The nice thing is that there is room for all, The Beatles, ABBA, Paul McCartney, etc., on one's music shelf.
I am discovering that there is a deep poignancy in many of Abba's lyrics, particularly the heartbreak ones.
It is good pop music.
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Post by Panther on Jan 27, 2009 13:49:01 GMT -5
I don't say that Abba are bad or that I don't like them -- I do enjoy their music. I have absolutely nothing against them. But, you know, The Beatles and Abba (or Bob Dylan and Abba) is like the difference between The Wonder Years and That 70s Show. Both could entertain you, but only one is relevant to people and seems to make a difference.
As Morrissey sang: "Hang the DJ! Because the music they constantly play . . . it says nothing to me about my life."
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Post by OldFred on Feb 1, 2009 14:40:16 GMT -5
Here's a cool clip of U2 with Bjorn & Benny of ABBA. What's nice about this and the clip with Davy Jones is that it shows how much respect U2 have for those who came before.
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Post by OldFred on Mar 13, 2009 12:40:21 GMT -5
Finally got the ABBA cape for John. Hope it's the right size.
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 13, 2009 20:41:03 GMT -5
Finally got the ABBA cape for John. Hope it's the right size. Thanks OldFred. That will be perfect for me to do my Stevie Nicks' swirls in!
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 14, 2009 8:51:40 GMT -5
Finally got the ABBA cape for John. Hope it's the right size. Fred: Is this a bootleg CD or DVD?
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Post by OldFred on Mar 14, 2009 20:19:32 GMT -5
Finally got the ABBA cape for John. Hope it's the right size. Fred: Is this a bootleg CD or DVD? It's a photo I found on one of the ABBA sites which caught my eye because of the cape, which I knew John would like. There is a DVD of a ABBA concert available.
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Post by sallyg on May 18, 2009 18:01:01 GMT -5
Yesterday I was watching Mamma Mia and I noticed that Meryl Streep's character's (Donna) boyfriend Bill Anderson was wearing a white Paul McCartney t-shirt from the 1989/90 World Tour. The only thing was he was wearing the t-shirt backwards showing the list of cities in front. This can be seen towards the beginning of the movie when Bill and the other men first arrive at Donna's house. Did anyone else notice it? I noticed it because I have the t-shirt.
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Post by wooltonian on May 19, 2009 7:53:03 GMT -5
I think, in the UK, Abba have far more resonance with the general public than the Beatles do.
Abba is seen as mainstream, fun, party, 'of the people' music (significantly bolstered by the success of 'Mamma Mia'), whereas to many the Beatles come across as a more niche, 60s group, that music buffs and 'old folk' like to bang on about.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on May 19, 2009 16:40:48 GMT -5
I think, in the UK, Abba have far more resonance with the general public than the Beatles do. Abba is seen as mainstream, fun, party, 'of the people' music (significantly bolstered by the success of 'Mamma Mia'), whereas to many the Beatles come across as a more niche, 60s group, that musos and 'old folk' like to bang on about. I guess you'd know the UK better than us Yanks, but I'd say given the Beatles are hometown boys, they'd be more appreciated than ABBA in the UK. Especially since one is a knight and they all have MBEs.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 20, 2009 8:46:52 GMT -5
I think, in the UK, Abba have far more resonance with the general public than the Beatles do. Abba is seen as mainstream, fun, party, 'of the people' music (significantly bolstered by the success of 'Mamma Mia'), whereas to many the Beatles come across as a more niche, 60s group, that musos and 'old folk' like to bang on about. I guess you'd know the UK better than us Yanks, but I'd say given the Beatles are hometown boys, they'd be more appreciated than ABBA in the UK. Especially since one is a knight and they all have MBEs. Steve, I have only a three word reply: Agnetha and Anni-Frid!
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Post by Steve Marinucci on May 20, 2009 13:04:50 GMT -5
I guess you'd know the UK better than us Yanks, but I'd say given the Beatles are hometown boys, they'd be more appreciated than ABBA in the UK. Especially since one is a knight and they all have MBEs. Steve, I have only a three word reply: Agnetha and Anni-Frid! Unfair! (Well, Agnetha, anyway ... )
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Post by wooltonian on May 21, 2009 4:09:27 GMT -5
I'd say given the Beatles are hometown boys, they'd be more appreciated than ABBA in the UK. Especially since one is a knight and they all have MBEs. On a purely musical front - and at this moment in time - I would say that for most Brits: 'Waterloo' has more resonance than 'She loves you' 'Dancing Queen' more than 'Let it be' - and - 'Knowing me, knowing you' more than 'Penny Lane'. 'Mamma Mia' (the show) is hugely better loved over here than 'Love' (which doesn't even play in this country!) and the film version of 'Mamma mia' is a monster smash. I wish it were other...
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Post by darkhorse67 on Feb 9, 2014 14:04:08 GMT -5
As a self confessed Beatlefan, forgive me for I have sinned: I must humbly confess to have seen Mama Mia (and to have clapped and sang along with it) on Broadway, but have yet to see Cirque du Soleil's "LOVE"...
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 10, 2014 10:57:19 GMT -5
As a self confessed Beatlefan, forgive me for I have sinned: I must humbly confess to have seen Mama Mia (and to have clapped and sang along with it) on Broadway, but have yet to see Cirque du Soleil's "LOVE"... I want to see Mama Mia someday on stage. I would also really like to see LOVE to but I must say their performances at that CBS Special last night did not seem special at least to us watching on TV. Maybe you had to be there and sayne could tell us if the LOVE performers made more of an impact in the theater than they did to us watching it on television. They had some "spinners" on "Here Comes The Sun" and "Hey Jude" it seemed.
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