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Post by mrjinks on Jun 18, 2008 12:18:04 GMT -5
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jun 18, 2008 15:34:54 GMT -5
I have to agree with you. I've always been a completist when it comes to the Beatles and Solo Beatles, but I've been drawing the line at Ringo's live albums. I have THREE of his All-Starr tours and the GREAT VH-1 STORYTELLERS all on CD, and a few of the DVDs. I'm pretty much done, unless something is drastically different.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jun 18, 2008 18:46:17 GMT -5
Yeah, it does seem a little repetitious. And it seems to get into Paul's habit of putting stuff out in various versions to make money on it. Still, a couple of the early All-Starr Bands were great (the first one, especially), and there's always the chance of a happy surprise -- like the year Sheila E. joined. I don't like the fact there's so much repetition from last year, but Gary Wright's a good choice.
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Post by mikev on Jun 18, 2008 21:02:52 GMT -5
well, there is a version of "What Goes On", which I think is a first. Probably one to just get on i-tunes.
Only things left from his Beatle catalogue are Good Night and um...If You Got Troubles. I think I'd be happier to hear him cover something from Ringo the 4th....
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 19, 2008 9:56:50 GMT -5
I don't own all these live albums although I see from this Thread that I own at least seven of them. My sister gave me Ringo Starr Live At Soundstage for Christmas but I haven't even played it(or opened it). I was lucky enough to be there in person and wrote Steve Marinucci a report of that Chicago show that he put on his News Site.
It was a great concert with The Roundheads.
I do not think I would buy this new one though on c.d. although I might if it is on dvd.
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Post by theman on Jun 19, 2008 15:21:51 GMT -5
Has anyone in rock history released so many unnecessary live recordings besides Ringo? Other the the first live album, Storytellers and the most recent one with the Roundheads, there is little need for any of these other CDs.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jun 19, 2008 15:56:41 GMT -5
Has anyone in rock history released so many unnecessary live recordings besides Ringo? Other the the first live album, Storytellers and the most recent one with the Roundheads, there is little need for any of these other CDs. But let's not forget that they spotlight OTHER atrtists as well.
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Post by theman on Jun 19, 2008 20:48:28 GMT -5
But let's not forget that they spotlight OTHER atrtists as well. True, but since I have little interest in many of the artists that have accompanied Ringo on tour, it's still all the same to me. That's way I love Storytellers (and like Soundstage) so much.
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Post by jimc on Jun 19, 2008 22:31:36 GMT -5
Yeah, it does seem a little repetitious. And it seems to get into Paul's habit of putting stuff out in various versions to make money on it. Still, a couple of the early All-Starr Bands were great (the first one, especially), and there's always the chance of a happy surprise -- like the year Sheila E. joined. I don't like the fact there's so much repetition from last year, but Gary Wright's a good choice. What are the examples of Paul doing anything remotely this gross? Releasing "various versions" for quick cash? What?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jun 20, 2008 5:44:28 GMT -5
But let's not forget that they spotlight OTHER atrtists as well. True, but since I have little interest in many of the artists that have accompanied Ringo on tour, it's still all the same to me. That's way I love Storytellers (and like Soundstage) so much. Okay, but Ringo's amount of good and recognizable songs which he can cover (and still make the other 95% of the audience who've never heard of them happy) is almost nil.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jun 20, 2008 7:49:47 GMT -5
Yeah, it does seem a little repetitious. And it seems to get into Paul's habit of putting stuff out in various versions to make money on it. Still, a couple of the early All-Starr Bands were great (the first one, especially), and there's always the chance of a happy surprise -- like the year Sheila E. joined. I don't like the fact there's so much repetition from last year, but Gary Wright's a good choice. What are the examples of Paul doing anything remotely this gross? Releasing "various versions" for quick cash? What? Putting out two different deluxe versions of MAF almost back to back with a CD and DVD, but one version including an interview, the other including the Starbucks gift card.
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Post by jimc on Jun 20, 2008 11:40:33 GMT -5
What are the examples of Paul doing anything remotely this gross? Releasing "various versions" for quick cash? What? Putting out two different deluxe versions of MAF almost back to back with a CD and DVD, but one version including an interview, the other including the Starbucks gift card. I just don't see how the MAF editions compare to the string of Ringo CDs above. Why bring Paul into this at all? I bought one MAF (the long box) and have had no desire to spring for the others. When I see something like the pink MAF, I think he's trying to sell to new buyers, not tempt me into buying basically the same thing twice.
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Post by mrjinks on Jun 20, 2008 12:25:54 GMT -5
I just don't see how the MAF editions compare to the string of Ringo CDs above. Why bring Paul into this at all? I bought one MAF (the long box) and have had no desire to spring for the others. When I see something like the pink MAF, I think he's trying to sell to new buyers, not tempt me into buying basically the same thing twice. But were you around in the Flowers in the Dirt days, too? There was the regular album, the "world tour pack" (w/bonus song), the Japanese edition (w/different bonus song), the two seven inch & two twelve inch singles for "This One"; the three 12 inch singles for "Figure of Eight", etc... and then, of course, the "remastered" edition less than four years later... I do think Paul's been guilty of a little of this in the past, too.
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Post by joeyself on Jun 20, 2008 15:49:24 GMT -5
Speaking only for me, I don't. The question, though, is who WANTS this? If they can sell enough units to pay for the cost of production, and it makes that segment of the population happy, it's no skin off my nose UNLESS it somehow is causing other product from The Beatles from being released. Since I doubt that is the case, Ringo can pull a Pearl Jam for all I care--release a disc for each show--and I can pull a Joey and not buy it. JcS
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Jun 20, 2008 19:59:05 GMT -5
Exactly. We can't get mad at Ringo if we feel a need to have everything Beatles. You want it, get it, if not, don't. He doesn't have to limit his releases because the completists have to shell out to feed their habit.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jun 20, 2008 21:56:53 GMT -5
Putting out two different deluxe versions of MAF almost back to back with a CD and DVD, but one version including an interview, the other including the Starbucks gift card. I just don't see how the MAF editions compare to the string of Ringo CDs above. Why bring Paul into this at all? I bought one MAF (the long box) and have had no desire to spring for the others. When I see something like the pink MAF, I think he's trying to sell to new buyers, not tempt me into buying basically the same thing twice. Yeah, but there is a bloc of Macca fans that will buy anything he issues. And we're not talking a small group here. And Paul knows that.
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Post by jimc on Jun 22, 2008 7:29:58 GMT -5
I think a live CD from Ringo is missing from the photos at the top. The one before Soundstage?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jun 22, 2008 8:17:22 GMT -5
I never picked up the SOUNDSTAGE one. Is it any good? Anything different or a standout (a la VH-1 STORYTELLERS?) .
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 22, 2008 11:31:19 GMT -5
I never picked up the SOUNDSTAGE one. Is it any good? Anything different or a standout (a la VH-1 STORYTELLERS?) . The main standout is that towards the end of the disc I am heard screaming like a school girl for Ringo to play "Heart On My Sleeve' and "A Man Like Me." We were drawing near the end of the concert and it suddenly dawned on me that we weren't going to hear any of those gems from 1978's Bad Boy. I was at first desperate and then bummed at that realization.
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Post by winstonoboogie on Jun 22, 2008 13:19:15 GMT -5
I never picked up the SOUNDSTAGE one. Is it any good? Anything different or a standout (a la VH-1 STORYTELLERS?) . The main standout is that towards the end of the disc I am heard screaming like a school girl for Ringo to play "Heart On My Sleeve' and "A Man Like Me." We were drawing near the end of the concert and it suddenly dawned on me that we weren't going to hear any of those gems from 1978's Bad Boy. I was at first desperate and then bummed at that realization. ...but at least you were there! ....unlike the rest of us... Tom (aka W. O'B)
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Post by mrjinks on Jun 23, 2008 9:47:10 GMT -5
I think a live CD from Ringo is missing from the photos at the top. The one before Soundstage? Do you mean this? I didn't count that one, 'cuz basically it's a reissue of the "King Biscuit" disc - no unique performances. Otherwise, I think I got 'em all...
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