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Post by OldFred on Oct 31, 2008 21:45:01 GMT -5
Both these albums feature the members of Paul McCartney & Wings and are considered lost Wings albums. Really nice albums to have in your collection. McGear (Paul's brother Michael with most of the songs written by Paul & Mike) Denny Laine singing lead on Buddy Holly covers.
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Oct 31, 2008 22:06:37 GMT -5
Both these albums feature the members of Paul McCartney & Wings and are considered lost Wings albums. Really nice albums to have in your collection. (1) There were SO MANY incarnations of the band Wings, that the concept of "Wings" loses meaning. (2) Wings is of interest only because of the presence of Macca, who was once in a MUCH MUCH better band. (3) When you say "are considered lost Wings albums", I ask : considered by whom? I have heard both these albums, and like so much of Macca's work, they are mostly bland and disappointing.
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Post by revolver66 on Nov 1, 2008 0:02:59 GMT -5
What Fred means is the more General audience that is into Macca might have missed these. Paul is so involved with both Projects that they are well worth checking out. I think they are never less than interesting and I rather like the McGear LP.
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Post by Panther on Nov 1, 2008 1:53:58 GMT -5
Both these albums feature the members of Paul McCartney & Wings and are considered lost Wings albums. Really nice albums to have in your collection. (1) There were SO MANY incarnations of the band Wings, that the concept of "Wings" loses meaning. (2) Wings is of interest only because of the presence of Macca, who was once in a MUCH MUCH better band. (3) When you say "are considered lost Wings albums", I ask : considered by whom? I have heard both these albums, and like so much of Macca's work, they are mostly bland and disappointing. Err.... Bit of an unnecessarily nasty post, wasn't it??
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Post by nine on Nov 1, 2008 2:08:25 GMT -5
What Fred means is the more General audience that is into Macca might have missed these. Paul is so involved with both Projects that they are well worth checking out. I think they are never less than interesting and I rather like the McGear LP. I've never heard those albums. I'd like to though. I guess I've never sought them out because I always forget to!
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Post by nine on Nov 1, 2008 2:12:33 GMT -5
(1) There were SO MANY incarnations of the band Wings, that the concept of "Wings" loses meaning. Well Wings were Paul, Linda and Denny. (If you watch Wingspan though you'd think it was only Paul and Linda). Albums like Band On The Run were very much Paul and Denny with Linda doing backing vocals. I doubt she played much keyboard on the sessions.
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Post by vectisfabber on Nov 1, 2008 3:58:10 GMT -5
The McGear album is great. All the material is strong, and there are several standout tracks. The Holly Days album is a lot weaker - Denny Laine's vocals are perhaps more polished than Mike McCartney's, but there doesn't seem to be as much passion in the recordings.
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Post by OldFred on Nov 1, 2008 5:41:12 GMT -5
What Fred means is the more General audience that is into Macca might have missed these. Paul is so involved with both Projects that they are well worth checking out. I think they are never less than interesting and I rather like the McGear LP. Exactly what I meant. The 'Thrillington' album is another one worth checking out too.
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Post by revolver66 on Nov 1, 2008 5:42:13 GMT -5
The McGear album is great. All the material is strong, and there are several standout tracks. The Holly Days album is a lot weaker - Denny Laine's vocals are perhaps more polished than Mike McCartney's, but there doesn't seem to be as much passion in the recordings. I agree. Maybe the Laine LP was more of a Project to use the Buddy Holly Tracks as Paul owned them(and wanted to get some use out of them). It would have been great if Macca had just did his own Buddy Holly Tribute LP.
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Post by OldFred on Nov 1, 2008 7:47:15 GMT -5
Here's 'Rainbow Lady' from the 'McGear' album. You can definitely hear Paul on this song.
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Post by winstonoboogie on Nov 1, 2008 13:13:13 GMT -5
Thanks for the post, OldFred!
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Nov 1, 2008 14:54:32 GMT -5
Exactly what I meant. The 'Thrillington' album is another one worth checking out too. By no stretch could Thrillington be a Wings album. It was recorded in 1971, before Ram hit the shops. Apparently Macca did produce the sessions, but he does not play on any of the tracks. Musicians are: Richard Hewson who conducts the "orchestra", Herbie Flowers (who George used too) on bass, Vic Flick on guitars, and Clem Cattini on drums. Backing vocals were the Mike Sammes Singers, who were also the backing singers on Walrus!! Thrillington is one of the most tedious pieces of music you'd ever want to hear. Just thought I'd inject that tad of realism. IMO, of course!
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Nov 1, 2008 14:55:51 GMT -5
(1) There were SO MANY incarnations of the band Wings, that the concept of "Wings" loses meaning. (2) Wings is of interest only because of the presence of Macca, who was once in a MUCH MUCH better band. (3) When you say "are considered lost Wings albums", I ask : considered by whom? I have heard both these albums, and like so much of Macca's work, they are mostly bland and disappointing. Err.... Bit of an unnecessarily nasty post, wasn't it?? Err ... no.
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Post by OldFred on Nov 1, 2008 16:33:07 GMT -5
Never said 'Thrillington' was a Wings album. It was added as an album of interest for McCartney fans and as a topic of fun for collectors.
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Nov 1, 2008 17:08:56 GMT -5
Ah Freddie. I thought you were defining "Wings" pretty broadly in the first place, defining McGear and Holly Days as "lost Wings albums". Then you mentioned Thrillington as an album of interest, in the same breath almost. Maybe you were just expanding your definition of Wings even more (after all, Macca did in "Wingspan"!).
But it doesn't matter really does it? Thrillington has no thrills for me!
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Post by OldFred on Nov 1, 2008 17:15:16 GMT -5
Here's a nice clip of Mike McGear talking about the early Beatles' years.
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Post by OldFred on Nov 1, 2008 17:38:35 GMT -5
Wow, talk about rare! Found this on YouTube, amazing the stuff you can find there. ;D And Paul McCartney was the cameraman on the video. Denny Laine - Moondreams from 'Holly Days'
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Post by johnpaulharstar on Nov 5, 2008 12:52:25 GMT -5
I really like the McGear album a lot. I'd rate it on a par with RED ROSE SPEEDWAY. There's a pretty good variety. Paul's mark is all over it in the songwriting, production, bass, and background vocals. Lots of quirky little stuff, like fake endings, spoken word, "hari krishna" chants. The album was also kind of a tryout for Jimmy McCullough, Wings best guitarist. McGear ranks near the top of my "Beatle related" favorite albums.
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Post by richforman on Nov 5, 2008 12:59:26 GMT -5
I never cared for that McGear album too much, had it on vinyl back in college. Always have been curious about the Denny Laine album but I've never heard it. Question - on the McCartney Years DVD which I finally got last weekend and have been working my way through, one of the menus (as many have noted, the best features on the DVD are the surprise clips shown under the menus!), plays a jazz instrumental version of "Three Legs" that I had never heard before. Is this from "Thrillington"? I thought it was fantastic, don't know if it necessariy makes me need to have the album but anyway the arrangement really showcased the song beautifully, I thought it just sounded great.
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Post by johnpaulharstar on Nov 6, 2008 7:53:35 GMT -5
I listened to McGear and Red Rose Speedway back to back last night to see if I still agreed that they are fairly equal. I stand by this statement. If you like one of these then you should like both of them (and obviously the opposite would be true as well.)
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Post by mikev on Nov 8, 2008 2:42:15 GMT -5
I caught McGear on vinyl-the record store guy accidentally sold it to me for $2. He realized it, but said to go ahead with the purchase as they were closing up shop. When I saw it on CD-I felt like it wasn't such a collector's item-but a great listen. I think Jimmy McCullough is on it.
Never heard cuts from Holly Days-but knew of it.
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Post by mikev on Nov 8, 2008 2:43:30 GMT -5
sorry-posted before I got to page 2...
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Post by Beatle Bob on Nov 18, 2008 16:04:28 GMT -5
Don't forget Linda McCartney's solo album issued after her passing. MANY song were done with Wings. Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by sayne on Nov 19, 2008 0:32:58 GMT -5
Thank you Ramones, Sex Pistols, The Clash, Elvis Costello, Wire, and the Talking Heads.
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