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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jul 18, 2008 23:50:15 GMT -5
Just got word that Paul McCartney guest starred at the final Billy Joel Shea Stadium show. He sang "I Saw Her Standing There" and "Let It Be." The latter song ended the show, making it the last song sung at Shea.
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Post by OldFred on Jul 19, 2008 5:56:01 GMT -5
Oh boy, would I have LOVED to have been at that show!
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jul 19, 2008 9:56:02 GMT -5
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Jul 19, 2008 11:47:59 GMT -5
Billy sucks.
Sells a concert as the final play at shea. Sells it out. Makes ANOTHER final play at shea, AFTER the first final play at shea, and flies in Paul McCartney.
Billy sucks.
But frankly, watching Paul in stadium from a mile and a half away run through 2 songs with Billy's band doesn;t sound like the thrill of a lifetime. I can wait for the DVD. But it doesn't excuse the criminal greed and broken promises of Billy's actions. You don;t sell a midweek concert as a "last ever at Shea" and then make that the penultimate concert so you can sell out another "final concert".
Don't I deserve my money back?
And I gotta say, he changes his set list about as often as Ringo.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jul 19, 2008 16:11:48 GMT -5
Billy sucks. Sells a concert as the final play at shea. Sells it out. Makes ANOTHER final play at shea, AFTER the first final play at shea, and flies in Paul McCartney. Billy sucks. But frankly, watching Paul in stadium from a mile and a half away run through 2 songs with Billy's band doesn;t sound like the thrill of a lifetime. I can wait for the DVD. But it doesn't excuse the criminal greed and broken promises of Billy's actions. You don;t sell a midweek concert as a "last ever at Shea" and then make that the penultimate concert so you can sell out another "final concert". Don't I deserve my money back? And I gotta say, he changes his set list about as often as Ringo. I take it you were at the Wednesday show? I suspect there was a lot of grumbling after the news got out last night.
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Post by OldFred on Jul 19, 2008 20:17:22 GMT -5
I just have to say, around the time they release the DVD of this final show at Shea, they BETTER release the Beatles at Shea!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 19, 2008 22:58:30 GMT -5
Shame the last song was "Let It Be," a real snoozer. It was a party so something fun like "I'm Down" would have been 100% cooler and more historically accurate.
Paul did two songs from his [yawn] forever setlist. Suspect that an old fart like Macca can't learn a couple new one every century.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 20, 2008 5:36:48 GMT -5
Shame the last song was "Let It Be," a real snoozer. It was a party so something fun like "I'm Down" would have been 100% cooler and more historically accurate. Paul did two songs from his [yawn] forever setlist. Suspect that an old fart like Macca can't learn a couple new one every century. What a downer you're being. Here we have a Billy Joel concert -- Paul wouldn't even ordinarily be there under normal circumstances -- and this surprise appearance isn't cool enough for you? It's cool that the last concert to ever be performed at Shea Stadium will have featured a Beatles song, as it should be. Most of the fans at the stadium were there for Billy Joel, and I'm sure were delighted to see Paul as an added bonus, whether he sang LET IT BE or something else. I seriously doubt many of them - if ANY - went home grumbling "and this fu**in' guy is so lazy that he had to do LET IT BE again???!!!"
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Post by OldFred on Jul 20, 2008 5:41:35 GMT -5
Shame the last song was "Let It Be," a real snoozer. It was a party so something fun like "I'm Down" would have been 100% cooler and more historically accurate. Paul did two songs from his [yawn] forever setlist. Suspect that an old fart like Macca can't learn a couple new one every century. Don't know if there were many in the crowd who have been to as many Macca shows as us who would have noticed. The fact that Paul made an appearance at Shea for the very last show is historic enough. He could have sang 'Obladi Oblada', 'Bip Bop' or 'Mary Had A Little Lamb' and the crowd would have ate it up. The fact that Paul was there was enough. We shoulda' been there.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 20, 2008 12:04:19 GMT -5
It's cool that the last concert to ever be performed at Shea Stadium will have featured a Beatles song, as it should be. I am having problems with that concept too. Why is the last song at Shea Stadium being a Beatles' song sung by an ex-Beatle, "as it should be." I am not picking on you Joe because when I read Steve's headline, I got all warm and fuzzy too(and kind of cocky like Beatle' fans get!). It is just an old stadium, a rather charmless one at that, built when the goal was to stack as many people in without regards to the experience they might have in interacting with the game of baseball being played there. Many rock groups played there and didn't Grand Funk Railroad draw a much bigger crowd? Maybe one of their songs would have been fitting final tribute? The United States put an American flag on the Moon because it was there first (and thus far, last) but that gives it no better a claim on the Moon than The Beatles have on Shea Stadium simply because The Fabs were first. The Fab concerts there were non-musical events for the fans actually there as they couldn't hear anything. Maybe the criteria should be on best concert at Shea musically and that might be Grand Funk Railroad or The Who. Maybe it was Billy Joel this past week. While I don't doubt the "Rock World" significance of The Beatles first playing Shea in that it meant the use of stadiums for concerts(although that has proved not good for fans ironically), Paul sure seems to have gotten rather "precious"(his favorite word for serious occasions, not mine) with his choice of "Let It Be." Steve posted on his News Site today two decent videos of both songs(filmed from the large monitor screen) and Paul's performances were good and it was awfully exciting when Paul comes out. But it is just the end of a concrete and steel structure, that's all!By the way, I should also disclose that I am a lifetime Chicago Cubs' fan and I would love to be the guy to press the button to demolish Shea, may it rot in hell! ;D The memories of 1969 don't ever go away to us Cubby fans.
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Post by OldFred on Jul 20, 2008 13:03:02 GMT -5
By the way, I should also disclose that I am a lifetime Chicago Cubs' fan and I would love to be the guy to press the button to demolish Shea, may it rot in hell! ;D The memories of 1969 don't ever go away to us Cubby fans. GO METS AND YANKEES!!!!! ;D (Sorry John, but you rankled my ire.) Shea will now be a memory in the Beatles scrapbooks, alongside the Washington Coliseum (the site of the first Beatles concert), and Candlestick Park in San Francisco (the site of the last Beatles concert). So sad that more and more Beatles' landmarks are disappearing. Thank goodness the music will remain. Still, Shea will always be a special, magic place for Beatles, especially those in New York. And to Dear John, GO METS AND YANKEES!!!!!(Ire still rankled, you know.) www.nytimes.com/2008/07/19/nyregion/19joel.html?em&ex=1216612800&en=769c7ffc9a5f8914&ei=5087%0A
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Jul 20, 2008 15:29:30 GMT -5
Shea is not at all charmless, it's a shame it has to make way for corporate greed.
In that regard, maybe Billy Joel was an ideal choice for last concert.
JSD's right, I thought I'm Down would be far more appropos. Let It Be is hardly a rouser, and what does it mean in this context anyway? They're certainly not going to let the stadium be.
But I ask again, as a sucker who bought a ticket to the first but apparently not last "final" play, doesn't Billy owe me my money back? 'Cause I sure don't get any bragging rights for attending the Wednesday concert, I rather people not know I was one of the suckers Billy scr*wed.
And, like I said, his set list didn't change for the last 15 years, with very few exceptions.
I think Billy's ready for the All Starr tours.
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Post by ImBigK on Jul 20, 2008 16:04:43 GMT -5
I have to agree, it's unfair to your audience sell a show as a 'final' concert and then add shows. That's pretty dishonest advertising.
As for the set list, that's rather more excusable... after all, the guy has recorded a grand total of one (1) new song in the last fifteen years, right? (OK, he also wrote "Christmas In Fallujah," but didn't sing it.) In that context, performing a set that doesn't contain most or all of his big hits would be a lot more of a ripoff IMO.
It would perhaps have been more appropriate for Paul to have done a pair of songs performed at the original Shea appearances (one from each year, maybe?), but I still have to feel it was classy on the part of both Billy and Paul to end the concert (and, thus, the last concerts at Shea) with a McCartney performance. And, for the record, I'd love to have been there too.
-Big K
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 20, 2008 18:11:07 GMT -5
It would perhaps have been more appropriate for Paul to have done a pair of songs performed at the original Shea appearances (one from each year, maybe?), but I still have to feel it was classy on the part of both Billy and Paul to end the concert (and, thus, the last concerts at Shea) with a McCartney performance. And, for the record, I'd love to have been there too. Hi BigK!!!!! I certainly agree that it was classy of Billy Joel to let Paul get the last song at Shea! Like you, I feel for anyone(our poster friend and anyone else ;D ) who bought a ticket under the representation that Wednesday would be the final rock and roll bash at Shea. I am just being picky but when aren't Beatles' fans? ;D We have been spoiled. Likewise, I am trying to overcome my feelings of Beatles superiority over the rest of the rock/pop music world as music is not politics or sports, it is not a zero sum game. We can love many musical acts and there is not just one winner. Maybe Grand Funk Railroad should have gotten the last song at Shea: the fans actually heard them and they sold more tickets than The Beatles. But hey, we can all agree that the following was a great Shea Stadium moment:
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 20, 2008 19:34:36 GMT -5
It's cool that the last concert to ever be performed at Shea Stadium will have featured a Beatles song, as it should be. I am having problems with that concept too. Why is the last song at Shea Stadium being a Beatles' song sung by an ex-Beatle, "as it should be." I am not picking on you Joe because when I read Steve's headline, I got all warm and fuzzy too(and kind of cocky like Beatle' fans get!). Well, the Beatles are the greatest, and they were the ones who played Shea first and their 1965 concert there is historic. You don't think that's a fitting finale? And of course we have to settle for Paul alone today, unfortunately. Well, I've never been to any other baseball games other than the Mets at Shea, so I don't have anything to compare it too. I have had years of wonderful experiences there, and I never had a problem with the place. I think this is a good example of what I mean when I say it just seems like you love to play with peoples' heads and I think you like being controversial. I mean, surely you realize that the Beatles' 1965 concert was the "Big One", right? The historical one that will always be best remembered... "hey, THE BEATLES played there!". We're talking about The Beatles here. Aw, forget it. AH-HA! So NOW we're getitng down to it! HAHAHAHAHA! ;D Well, if it helps you out at all, I am pulling for the Cubs to win (that is, if the METS cannot)... because I think they're more than due. And I despise the Skankees with a passion!!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 20, 2008 19:41:28 GMT -5
JSD's right, I thought I'm Down would be far more appropos. Let It Be is hardly a rouser, and what does it mean in this context anyway? They're certainly not going to let the stadium be. Well, I SAW HER STANDING THERE is a rouser. Personally, if I were there I'd like him to do OLD SIAM, SIR or MONKBERRY MOON DELIGHT ... but being realistic now, the fans at this concert wouldn't recognize something like I'M DOWN as well as the "classic" LET IT BE. For the 99.9% of thrilled fans at Billy Joel's concert who may never have seen Paul more than once, IF that -- I think they'd be most pleased being able to tell people years from now: "I saw Paul McCartney singing LET IT BE at a Billy Joel concert!!"
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Post by ImBigK on Jul 21, 2008 0:16:26 GMT -5
Well, I SAW HER STANDING THERE is a rouser. Personally, if I were there I'd like him to do OLD SIAM, SIR or MONKBERRY MOON DELIGHT ... but being realistic now, the fans at this concert wouldn't recognize something like I'M DOWN as well as the "classic" LET IT BE. For the 99.9% of thrilled fans at Billy Joel's concert who may never have seen Paul more than once, IF that -- I think they'd be most pleased being able to tell people years from now: "I saw Paul McCartney singing LET IT BE at a Billy Joel concert!!" I suspect you're right on target with that. -Big K NP - THE FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS
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