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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 14, 2009 16:29:48 GMT -5
Q: How many vegans does it take to change a lightbulb? A: None, vegans can't change anything.
Q: Why did the chicken cross the road? A: Because Colonel Sanders was chasing him.
Q: Can vegetarians eat animal crackers?
I once saw on a bumper sticker that read, "I love animals. They taste so good."
"There's plenty of room for all God's creatures... right next to the mashed potatoes."
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Feb 14, 2009 17:02:21 GMT -5
Lots of deep and original thinking here!
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Post by sayne on Feb 14, 2009 17:46:44 GMT -5
Joe, leave it to the professionals. Two lesbian vegetarians stopped by a produce stand and inquired about the price of zucchinis.
"40 cents apiece or 3 for a dollar," said the farmer.
The first woman looked at the other questioningly.
"Well, we can always eat one," said her friend.
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Post by JMG on Feb 15, 2009 8:39:47 GMT -5
I like my New York Strip steak cooked medium rare on a charcoal grill (I prefer a 22 inch Weber), seasoned with a dash of garlic powder, lemon pepper and black pepper. Smothered with sautéd mushrooms with a baked potato and sour cream. To hell with those PETA wack-jobs. Animals DO taste good. Note: My opinions are my own and in no way reflect Steve's opinion or the members posting on the Abbeyrd's Beatles Page Message Board II.
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Post by superhans on Feb 15, 2009 9:41:08 GMT -5
This thread is making me hungry. In fact, I would go as far as to say that it's the most delicious thread I've ever come across! Right. I'm off for a KFC.
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Post by sayne on Feb 15, 2009 11:00:51 GMT -5
I used to make a mean meatloaf and a killer shrimp creole.
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Post by sayne on Feb 15, 2009 11:14:47 GMT -5
. . . Animals DO taste good. You mean the smoked flavoring, garlic powder, lemon pepper and black pepper, sauteed mushrooms, baked potato and sour cream taste good. My menu last week: Monday - chile rellenos Tuesday - fettucini alfredo w/chicken nuggets Wednesday - burritos Thursday - pizza Friday - Calzone Saturday - Barbeque Ribs Today - Brats on the grill All meatless. Eat with me for a week and you will, at the very least, go meatless more often.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 15, 2009 12:16:43 GMT -5
I once saw on a bumper sticker that read, "I love animals. They taste so good." I saw that very bumper-sticker on a truck yesterday in Ft. Wayne, Indiana! Of course, the guy also had a "Ted Nugent For President" bumper sticker too. I was careful in passing him so as not to cause road rage, the cat was probably armed to the teeth.
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Post by JMG on Feb 16, 2009 4:05:07 GMT -5
You mean the smoked flavoring, garlic powder, lemon pepper and black pepper, sauteed mushrooms, baked potato and sour cream taste good. Actually sayne, you missed the most important part. The New York Strip steak. ;D I like my pizza with cheese (of course), sausage, mushrooms, green peppers and pepperoni. I make a mean meatloaf, also a very good beef stew. My homemade chilli is also very good, ground sirloin one of the main ingredients. Looks like I won't be eating with you in the near future. But moderation is the key to anything. Sometimes I'll make a nice vegetable salad, with French or Italian dressing. Depends on my mood or who's at the house and what everyone wants. A varied diet is very important, IMO.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 16, 2009 6:24:33 GMT -5
And then there is my favorite -- Veal. Only the tenderest kind of young veal, of course! Yummy -yum-yum..!
Absolutely. Sayne can keep his Tofu Turkey. I'd never subscribe to his eating routine.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 16, 2009 7:03:58 GMT -5
. . . Animals DO taste good. You mean the smoked flavoring, garlic powder, lemon pepper and black pepper, sauteed mushrooms, baked potato and sour cream taste good. Err.... No. That's not it.
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Post by sayne on Feb 16, 2009 10:02:48 GMT -5
. . . I like my pizza with cheese (of course), sausage, mushrooms, green peppers and pepperoni . . . My homemade chilli is also very good, ground sirloin one of the main ingredients. Looks like I won't be eating with you in the near future. . . . Sometimes I'll make a nice vegetable salad, with French or Italian dressing. Depends on my mood or who's at the house and what everyone wants. A varied diet is very important, IMO. Do something for me. Just to get your opinion. (I'd even pay if you send me your receipt - REALLY) Go to Whole Foods or Trader Joe's or any store that sells Morning Star Farms veggie sausage or Lightlife's Gimme Lean bulk sausage. Next time you take pizza home, order your cheese, mushrooms, and green peppers, and pepperoni (I haven't tried any veggie pepperoni, so I won't push that). Cook up the veggie sausage, cut it up, and sprinkle it on the pizza. If you like, you pay. If not, send me the bill - honest. As for your chili, substitute veggie ground meat (Morning Star and Quorn are good). Once again, I'll pay if you don't like it. I'm not trying to make you a vegetarian. I just want you to experience the idea that one can still have all their favorites, but meatless, without feeling that they are making a sacrifice. It's the feeling of "sacrifice" that often turns people against going veggie or cutting down on their meat consumption. When you decide to make a good salad for a meal, that is great, but many people think that going veggie is all salads and steamed vegetables. It's not, which is what is behind my challenge. Wanna take me up on it?
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Post by sayne on Feb 16, 2009 10:10:46 GMT -5
"Routine"? THAT's what you call it? Hmm. I thought I was showing how I pretty much eat what everyone else does, but meatless. No salad or steamed vegetables as main dishes in sight.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Feb 16, 2009 12:04:14 GMT -5
. . . I like my pizza with cheese (of course), sausage, mushrooms, green peppers and pepperoni . . . My homemade chilli is also very good, ground sirloin one of the main ingredients. Looks like I won't be eating with you in the near future. . . . Sometimes I'll make a nice vegetable salad, with French or Italian dressing. Depends on my mood or who's at the house and what everyone wants. A varied diet is very important, IMO. Do something for me. Just to get your opinion. (I'd even pay if you send me your receipt - REALLY) Go to Whole Foods or Trader Joe's or any store that sells Morning Star Farms veggie sausage or Lightlife's Gimme Lean bulk sausage. Next time you take pizza home, order your cheese, mushrooms, and green peppers, and pepperoni (I haven't tried any veggie pepperoni, so I won't push that). Cook up the veggie sausage, cut it up, and sprinkle it on the pizza. If you like, you pay. If not, send me the bill - honest. As for your chili, substitute veggie ground meat (Morning Star and Quorn are good). Once again, I'll pay if you don't like it. I'm not trying to make you a vegetarian. I just want you to experience the idea that one can still have all their favorites, but meatless, without feeling that they are making a sacrifice. It's the feeling of "sacrifice" that often turns people against going veggie or cutting down on their meat consumption. When you decide to make a good salad for a meal, that is great, but many people think that going veggie is all salads and steamed vegetables. It's not, which is what is behind my challenge. Wanna take me up on it? sayne: I know what you mean. We have veggie burgers in our freezer regularly and we're not vegetarians. But there are a surprising amount of excellent vegetarian products that are extremely satisfying. Morningstar Farms Garden Veggie Burgers are one of my favorites, but their Pizza burgers are good, too. And they're very healthy compared to regular burgers. I don't eat a whole lot of red meat. I'm more of a poultry guy. But I do love meatless ground and veggie burgers.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 16, 2009 12:56:32 GMT -5
I'm not trying to make you a vegetarian. I just want you to experience the idea that one can still have all their favorites, but meatless, without feeling that they are making a sacrifice. Nooooo, of course you're not trying to make anyone a vegetarian. How about you just eat a nice tasty slice of veal, and experience the idea that, even if you avoid veal on principal for the rest of your life, it's not going to change a thing regarding how those animals are prepared in the future, whether you personally choose to eat them or not. It's also Tofu, and "fake meat". Anyway this just goes to show how hard non-meaters try to push their "no meat" agenda... I mean, to the point where you're actually willing to pay the guy?
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Post by sayne on Feb 16, 2009 14:01:57 GMT -5
. . . Nooooo, of course you're not trying to make anyone a vegetarian . . . . . . How about you just eat a nice tasty slice of veal . . . . . . you're actually willing to pay the guy? All those feeling pressure from me to go veggie chime it. I've had veal. Tasted good. Just a friendly little offer.
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Post by JMG on Feb 17, 2009 1:21:09 GMT -5
. . . I like my pizza with cheese (of course), sausage, mushrooms, green peppers and pepperoni . . . My homemade chilli is also very good, ground sirloin one of the main ingredients. Looks like I won't be eating with you in the near future. . . . Sometimes I'll make a nice vegetable salad, with French or Italian dressing. Depends on my mood or who's at the house and what everyone wants. A varied diet is very important, IMO. Do something for me. Just to get your opinion. (I'd even pay if you send me your receipt - REALLY) Go to Whole Foods or Trader Joe's or any store that sells Morning Star Farms veggie sausage or Lightlife's Gimme Lean bulk sausage. Next time you take pizza home, order your cheese, mushrooms, and green peppers, and pepperoni (I haven't tried any veggie pepperoni, so I won't push that). Cook up the veggie sausage, cut it up, and sprinkle it on the pizza. If you like, you pay. If not, send me the bill - honest. As for your chili, substitute veggie ground meat (Morning Star and Quorn are good). Once again, I'll pay if you don't like it. I'm not trying to make you a vegetarian. I just want you to experience the idea that one can still have all their favorites, but meatless, without feeling that they are making a sacrifice. It's the feeling of "sacrifice" that often turns people against going veggie or cutting down on their meat consumption. When you decide to make a good salad for a meal, that is great, but many people think that going veggie is all salads and steamed vegetables. It's not, which is what is behind my challenge. Wanna take me up on it? An interesting concept and I do appreciate the offer but my answer would be...NO. No fake meat for me. Only the very best of steaks and ground meats. I'll go you one further sayne. I buy my steaks at a butcher shop, not the grocery store. Countryside Meats Special Cut New York Strip steaks, these bad boys are over two inches thick and go 16 to 18 oz. I'll fire up the Weber, charcoals smokin' hot in about twenty minuets. I open up all three vents on the bottom and the vent on top, wide open. Put my steaks on the grill, side one gets seven minuets, flip 'em over, side two gets six minuets. They come off medium rare, little bit of crunch on the outside, tender and juicy on the inside. Perfection. I hit a home run with this every time. Fake meats for me sayne? I don't think so.
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Post by sayne on Feb 17, 2009 2:30:40 GMT -5
. . . I'll go you one further sayne. I buy my steaks at a butcher shop, not the grocery store . . . Actually, you should go about 4 steps further. Start at the stockyard and pick your steer . . . Leave out the middleman. Take home a slab that you actually saw walking, stunned, rendered, and trimmed. Bon appetit!
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Post by JMG on Feb 17, 2009 3:00:44 GMT -5
. . . I'll go you one further sayne. I buy my steaks at a butcher shop, not the grocery store . . . Actually, you should go about 4 steps further. Start at the stockyard and pick your steer . . . Leave out the middleman. Take home a slab that you actually saw walking, stunned, rendered, and trimmed. Bon appetit! ;D ;D ;D ;D I tried that sayne but it was much too messy and time consuming. After all, time is money. Countryside Meats is the way to go.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 17, 2009 5:54:04 GMT -5
Actually, you should go about 4 steps further. Start at the stockyard and pick your steer . . . Leave out the middleman. Take home a slab that you actually saw walking, stunned, rendered, and trimmed. Bon appetit! The beauty of that is, we don't have to.
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Post by JMG on Feb 17, 2009 6:28:01 GMT -5
"Beef. It's what's for dinner."
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Post by sayne on Feb 17, 2009 16:13:09 GMT -5
I tried that sayne but it was much too messy and time consuming. After all, time is money. It's always nice to have others do our dirty work.
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Post by Cosmos on Feb 18, 2009 11:23:59 GMT -5
Questions: How many of the meat-lovers have pets? If I came to your home and prepared one in a tasty fashion, what would be your objection to a hefty helping? Finally, why do these arguements not apply to all the other animals?
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Post by JMG on Feb 18, 2009 19:04:57 GMT -5
Questions: How many of the meat-lovers have pets? If I came to your home and prepared one in a tasty fashion, what would be your objection to a hefty helping? Finally, why do these arguements not apply to all the other animals? Beef, chickens, turkeys, even fish...are raised for human consumption, same as fruits and vegetables. If you chose to not eat meat, that's your choice. Pets are...pets. Not meant for human consumption, at least not in the United States. If I have to explain it any further, I don't think I'm going to be able to help you.
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Post by sayne on Feb 18, 2009 22:48:09 GMT -5
. . . chickens . . . are raised for human consumption, same as fruits . . . Pets are...pets. My mom had a pet chicken when she was a kid . . . They ate him ;D I have a friend who is a fruit. Don't think I'll be eating him. ;D
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 19, 2009 5:56:56 GMT -5
Beef, chickens, turkeys, even fish...are raised for human consumption, same as fruits and vegetables. If you chose to not eat meat, that's your choice. Last night the wife made some delicious chicken -- cooked right on our new George Forman grill! I enjoy meat even more whenever I think of all those activists protesting meat, as I'm eating! We had veggies on the side too. I kinda wondered if anyone felt sorry for them as well -- after all, they were also once alive...
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Post by JMG on Feb 19, 2009 8:44:56 GMT -5
The George Forman Grills are great! I bought mine back in 1997, one of the first models and still going strong. I've made steaks, chicken, beef-ka-bobs, Italian sausage, it's the only way I make hamburgers in the winter when it's just too cold to grill outside. For once a product that's all it's cracked up to be.
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Post by sayne on Feb 19, 2009 8:47:40 GMT -5
. . . I think of all those activists protesting meat, as I'm eating! After saying grace, THAT"S what you think about when you eat? What a waste of time. It's nice to know that I am in your thoughts . . . bite after bite after bite . . . Don't choke.
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Post by ursamajor on Feb 19, 2009 20:00:19 GMT -5
I'm a meat eater and I love my meat. One year for a celebratory feast we decided to have goat on a spit.
The goat was chosen by my uncle, killed by my uncle, skinned, hung up to drain the blood and then cooked on the spit the next day.
There were three goats to choose from, the one that was chosen was separated from the rest and it started to make these noises like it was scared or it knew what was coming. I did feel sorry for it but what can we do, we are meat eaters.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 20, 2009 6:01:41 GMT -5
There were three goats to choose from, the one that was chosen was separated from the rest and it started to make these noises like it was scared or it knew what was coming. I did feel sorry for it but what can we do, we are meat eaters. You see, as much pro-meat as I am, I'm not without a heart. Meaning that *I* personally could not, say, go hunting and kill a poor innocent deer, or goat. I could not kill a chicken, a turkey, pig, baby cow, or whatever. But I don't have to see that side of it, and I realize that no matter how much an activist makes his own personal decision to "do his part" and avoids eating animals for this very purpose, that it accomplishes nothing because these animals will STILL be lead to the slaughter for all time. "I don't believe in eating veal because of what they do to those poor animals..." Okay, fine; but that practice will still be continuing, regardless. Might as well dig in!
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