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Post by sayne on Jul 19, 2008 11:10:51 GMT -5
I've never seen this. It is GREAT! Wait until you see them deconstructing "God Only Knows". AMAZING!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 19, 2008 12:05:43 GMT -5
That was pretty cool. I was getting a little worried though as George Martin was driving over the centerline at the beginning of the clip!
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Post by Snookeroo on Jul 19, 2008 14:16:16 GMT -5
it IS great. I was on a road trip a few years ago up in Maine, and I caught the special that this is from on a TV station out of Canada. I tried like heck to see if I could find the company who did it or a DVD of it. It featured George Martin visiting with other music producing giants. Thanks for posting the clip.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 19, 2008 15:20:31 GMT -5
it IS great. I was on a road trip a few years ago up in Maine, and I caught the special that this is from on a TV station out of Canada. I tried like heck to see if I could find the company who did it or a DVD of it. It featured George Martin visiting with other music producing giants. Thanks for posting the clip. Did Sir George meet with Phil Spector in this show? That would be awkward.
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Post by Sir Frankie Crisp on Jul 19, 2008 23:12:13 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that clip Sayne. It was fascinating to see George Martin and Brian together. I saw Brian in concert just over a week ago and it was a strange experience. I have never seen a performer so detached from his audience. Everyone was enjoying the show - singing and dancing and cheering every song but you have to wonder if any of that love reached Brian. He sat stoically on a stool and didn't move all night. There's a vacant look behind his eyes that just leaves you cold and you've got to wonder about the condition of his mental health. He introduced “God Only Knows” as the best song he’s ever written and that was the only thing he said all night. The last song of the evening was from his new album and it was simply stunning. He sang about a dream he had harmonizing with his brothers. The title escapes me but it was very emotional listening to something that obviously cuts very deep with Brian. A tortured genius if ever there was one. If you're interested here's a hyperlink to one of several photos I took at the concert www.flickr.com/photos/7488690@N04/2656676721/
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Post by sayne on Jul 19, 2008 23:24:59 GMT -5
. . . I saw Brian in concert just over a week ago and it was a strange experience. I have never seen a performer so detached from his audience . . . I know what you mean. I saw Brian a few years ago when he did SMile in its entirety and a couple of years ago when he did Pet Sounds. I can't say he was still and stoic, but he's definitely from the Dylan/Van Morrison school of showmanship. Quite different from the McCartney, Jagger, Daltry, Bon Jovi, Bono, Joel, etc school.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jul 20, 2008 8:57:20 GMT -5
. . . I saw Brian in concert just over a week ago and it was a strange experience. I have never seen a performer so detached from his audience . . . I know what you mean. I saw Brian a few years ago when he did SMile in its entirety and a couple of years ago when he did Pet Sounds. I can't say he was still and stoic, but he's definitely from the Dylan/Van Morrison school of showmanship. Quite different from the McCartney, Jagger, Daltry, Bon Jovi, Bono, Joel, etc school. I saw the Pet Sounds tour (also got to meet him afterwards). He seemed somewhat detached. But the show was tremendous.
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Post by sayne on Jul 20, 2008 11:02:15 GMT -5
. . . I saw the Pet Sounds tour (also got to meet him afterwards) . . . But the show was tremendous. It's amazing how good his backing band is. Their ability to replicate the sounds AND the vocals of the Beach Boys songs in a LIVE performance was stunning. For me, it was a privilege to see Brian perform Smile and Pet Sounds as a whole. The thousands of concerts I have been to are enjoyably stuck in my memory, but those two Brian Wilson shows are stuck in my very being.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 20, 2008 12:51:56 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that clip Sayne. It was fascinating to see George Martin and Brian together. I saw Brian in concert just over a week ago and it was a strange experience. I have never seen a performer so detached from his audience. Everyone was enjoying the show - singing and dancing and cheering every song but you have to wonder if any of that love reached Brian. He sat stoically on a stool and didn't move all night. There's a vacant look behind his eyes that just leaves you cold and you've got to wonder about the condition of his mental health. He introduced “God Only Knows” as the best song he’s ever written and that was the only thing he said all night. The last song of the evening was from his new album and it was simply stunning. He sang about a dream he had harmonizing with his brothers. The title escapes me but it was very emotional listening to something that obviously cuts very deep with Brian. A tortured genius if ever there was one. If you're interested here's a hyperlink to one of several photos I took at the concert www.flickr.com/photos/7488690@N04/2656676721/Wow, my wife would agree with you 100% On his tour to debut Smile in the U.S., my wife and I were fortunate enough to have seats within feet of the stage at the very beautiful Auditorium Theatre in Chicago on October 2, 2004(our good poster friend ChuckE was there too!). It was one of the best, if not best, concerts I have ever seen. Brian was amazing but much credit had to go also to his band and the string section. Brian seemed less detached than I thought he would be but his wife was sitting about 10 seats to our right and was filming the show herself and Brian would slowly shuffle to the center edge of the stage waiving at her as if she was the only one there, oblivious to the rest of us giving our love and praise. My wife works at a large community based mental health center and seeing Brian Wilson up close startled her, she said he had the exact same affect as the clients at her employer's facility: from his far away gaze to his stiffness in all body movements. My wife enjoyed the show but was spooked by the man himself. She had a lot of questions to me afterwards about his history and personal circumstances as she knew nothing about him except that he had been in The Beach Boys. I answered what I could and she wondered out loud if he was being manipulated again by his current wife and "handlers" which made me think that was just as he was with his bullying father, then Mike Love, then "Dr." Landy(sp?), etc. My wife specifically wondered if Brian would be up there at all if the decision was left to him. Wow, rock and roll ethical issues! P.S. I spoke with my wife this afternoon about this post and in what is only the third time we have ever discussed anything I have ever posted on a Message Board(the first was when she thought that I was growing too fond of Fiona of the Quarles), she now thinks that music is good for Brian Wilson including his touring. She thinks(and it is just her opinion and she is not a doctor or anything) that music is a positive medicine for him. That is a good way to look at it.
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Post by Sir Frankie Crisp on Jul 20, 2008 21:26:40 GMT -5
My wife specifically wondered if Brian would be up there at all if the decision was left to him. Wow, rock and roll ethical issues! P.S. I spoke with my wife this afternoon about this post and in what is only the third time we have ever discussed anything I have ever posted on a Message Board(the first was when she thought that I was growing too fond of Fiona of the Quarles), she now thinks that music is good for Brian Wilson including his touring. She thinks(and it is just her opinion and she is not a doctor or anything) that music is a positive medicine for him. That is a good way to look at it. You know JSD, your wife may be onto something here. I always feared that Brian was being manipulated and used as a cash cow without having the mental capacity to fend for himself. But looking at it from another perspective, your wife may very well be right and performing music is his salvation. I too had the great honour of seeing Brian a few years ago during his "Pet Sounds" tour and it was wonderful. He sat at a keyboard and plunked away sparingly at a few chords and it was a magical event. The fact that we were even seeing him perform was something in itself. The gentleman in the row in front of me literally wept and when I gave him my binoculars so he could see Brian a little closer (I was in the fourth row) he was genuinely touched. It was like I had given him a bag of gold. Such is the power of music. I remember Brian had a certain rapport with the audience that evening and I guess I was expecting the same kind of animated behaviour. It was a little jarring to see Brian a few days ago and completely withdrawn to the point of making me uncomfortable. The early songs are so light-hearted and fun and the audience is bound to get caught up in the haze of nostalgia so when you see Brian’s blank stares and robotic movements it's enough to give you pause and hope someone out there is looking out for him.
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Post by scousette on Aug 15, 2008 17:04:18 GMT -5
My wife specifically wondered if Brian would be up there at all if the decision was left to him. Wow, rock and roll ethical issues! P.S. I spoke with my wife this afternoon about this post and in what is only the third time we have ever discussed anything I have ever posted on a Message Board(the first was when she thought that I was growing too fond of Fiona of the Quarles), she now thinks that music is good for Brian Wilson including his touring. She thinks(and it is just her opinion and she is not a doctor or anything) that music is a positive medicine for him. That is a good way to look at it. You know JSD, your wife may be onto something here. I always feared that Brian was being manipulated and used as a cash cow without having the mental capacity to fend for himself. But looking at it from another perspective, your wife may very well be right and performing music is his salvation. I too had the great honour of seeing Brian a few years ago during his "Pet Sounds" tour and it was wonderful. He sat at a keyboard and plunked away sparingly at a few chords and it was a magical event. The fact that we were even seeing him perform was something in itself. The gentleman in the row in front of me literally wept and when I gave him my binoculars so he could see Brian a little closer (I was in the fourth row) he was genuinely touched. It was like I had given him a bag of gold. Such is the power of music. I remember Brian had a certain rapport with the audience that evening and I guess I was expecting the same kind of animated behaviour. It was a little jarring to see Brian a few days ago and completely withdrawn to the point of making me uncomfortable. The early songs are so light-hearted and fun and the audience is bound to get caught up in the haze of nostalgia so when you see Brian’s blank stares and robotic movements it's enough to give you pause and hope someone out there is looking out for him. JSD's wife was right about Fiona of the Quarles, too. ;D
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 15, 2008 17:17:23 GMT -5
You know JSD, your wife may be onto something here. I always feared that Brian was being manipulated and used as a cash cow without having the mental capacity to fend for himself. But looking at it from another perspective, your wife may very well be right and performing music is his salvation. I too had the great honour of seeing Brian a few years ago during his "Pet Sounds" tour and it was wonderful. He sat at a keyboard and plunked away sparingly at a few chords and it was a magical event. The fact that we were even seeing him perform was something in itself. The gentleman in the row in front of me literally wept and when I gave him my binoculars so he could see Brian a little closer (I was in the fourth row) he was genuinely touched. It was like I had given him a bag of gold. Such is the power of music. I remember Brian had a certain rapport with the audience that evening and I guess I was expecting the same kind of animated behaviour. It was a little jarring to see Brian a few days ago and completely withdrawn to the point of making me uncomfortable. The early songs are so light-hearted and fun and the audience is bound to get caught up in the haze of nostalgia so when you see Brian’s blank stares and robotic movements it's enough to give you pause and hope someone out there is looking out for him. JSD's wife was right about Fiona of the Quarles, too. ;D OUCH! Hey, welcome scousette! I appears you are up and running here. Now we just need Ron Nasty but it is great to have you here!
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Post by scousette on Aug 15, 2008 18:02:26 GMT -5
JSD's wife was right about Fiona of the Quarles, too. ;D OUCH! Hey, welcome scousette! I appears you are up and running here. Now we just need Ron Nasty but it is great to have you here! Hee! Good to be back. And we have a PUKE smiley now! Yay, Steve!!
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Post by ChuckE on Aug 18, 2008 12:11:47 GMT -5
I was also touched (as my good friend JSD mentioned) by seeing Brian Wilson live in concert, performing SMiLE. Brian clearly has trouble feeling comfortable on stage, but it's been said that confronting his SMiLE demons by finally performing the finished work onstage (AND re-recording it) has been therapeutic. Still, I can't help but feel Brian would be much more comfortable if he could be more private with his music, rather than having to perform it onstage for the whole world to see. (I, for one, am VERY glad he was able to share it with us, though.) NP: Slade, "Run Runaway," The Amazing Kamikaze Syndrome (UK remaster)
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