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Post by coachbk on Sept 20, 2015 12:51:52 GMT -5
TUG OF WAR is an outstanding album. Probably 4th on my McCartney list behind BAND ON THE RUN, RAM, and FLAMING PIE. "Wanderlust" belongs on any list of McCartney's greatest songs. I also consider "Here Today", "Ballroom Dancing", "Tug Of War", Take It Away" and "Ebony And Ivory" excellent songs. The rest of the songs are at least decent as well. PIPES OF PEACE is an album I think I like better than most McCartney fans (POP was one of the lowest rated albums, if not THE lowest rated on the Hoffman Board voting). Doesn't make my top 10, but it isn't in my five worst either. But POP is not close to being as good as TOW. Nothing close to "Wanderlust" in quality. "Pipes Of Peace", "The Man" and "Through Our Love" are good and I like the "Sweetest Little Show" to "Average Person" transition, but the rest of the album is average at best.
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Post by Panther on Sept 20, 2015 17:31:55 GMT -5
I actually agree with you (which is rare) that 'Wanderlust' -- a mini-masterpiece -- is the best song on Tug of War, and is probably better than anything on Pipes of Peace.
However, I disagree strongly with all your other points. 'Here Today' is just shite. Paul attempts to sound 'arty' and sad about his friend, but he forgot to bring a bucket to carry a tune in. He's still peddling those junior-high school lyrics around on talk shows and whatnot in the 2000s... embarrassing. 'Tug of War' (the song) is abysmal. Here, Paul take a rather nice melody (which, in any case, is a dime a dozen to him) and ruins it by attempting profundity (never Paul's strong point), and ends up sounding inane. This is the same kind of song Miley Cyrus or Backstreet Boys would sing if they suddenly tried to sound 'serious' and 'important'. Lyrics are nonsense, as usual. 'Ballroom Dancing' is crap for old grannies. 'Take It Away' is a very nice pop song as they go, but that's the best that can be said of it (lyrics are terrible). Not bad, though. 'Ebony and Ivory' is akin to 'Tug of War', except worse, in the Paul-attempts-profundity-and-ends-up-sounding-like-a-total-idiot. I know, let's take a sensitive, complex issue like black/white race relations, and reduce it to Hallmark card for pop radio!
A masterpiece this is not.
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Post by coachbk on Sept 20, 2015 20:09:09 GMT -5
I actually agree with you (which is rare) that 'Wanderlust' -- a mini-masterpiece -- is the best song on Tug of War, and is probably better than anything on Pipes of Peace. However, I disagree strongly with all your other points. 'Here Today' is just shite. Paul attempts to sound 'arty' and sad about his friend, but he forgot to bring a bucket to carry a tune in. He's still peddling those junior-high school lyrics around on talk shows and whatnot in the 2000s... embarrassing. 'Tug of War' (the song) is abysmal. Here, Paul take a rather nice melody (which, in any case, is a dime a dozen to him) and ruins it by attempting profundity (never Paul's strong point), and ends up sounding inane. This is the same kind of song Miley Cyrus or Backstreet Boys would sing if they suddenly tried to sound 'serious' and 'important'. Lyrics are nonsense, as usual. 'Ballroom Dancing' is crap for old grannies. 'Take It Away' is a very nice pop song as they go, but that's the best that can be said of it (lyrics are terrible). Not bad, though. 'Ebony and Ivory' is akin to 'Tug of War', except worse, in the Paul-attempts-profundity-and-ends-up-sounding-like-a-total-idiot. I know, let's take a sensitive, complex issue like black/white race relations, and reduce it to Hallmark card for pop radio! A masterpiece this is not. I feel sad for you that you are so cynical that you can't appreciate "Here Today", "Tug OF War", "Ebony And Ivory" and "Ballroom Dancing". How a fan of Paul McCartney can say such things is beyond me! What a pompous self-important post!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 21, 2015 9:02:24 GMT -5
'Here Today' is just shite. That's just crazy talk. It's hilarious to hear you preferring PIPES OF PEACE while putting down the lyrics off TUG OF WAR. Are you for real with that? You criticize the words to the song TOW over the "burn baby burn" sentiment of the POP song? How do you defend the absurd kindergarten lyrics of POP songs like "Average Person" ("dah dah dah dah"), "Keep Undercover" ("what good is butter if you haven't got bread?"), the "dustbin lid" bit of "The Other Me", and on and on...? You criticize the wonderful "Ballroom Dancing" as "granny music", when there are way more granny moments off POP. Bizarrre...
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Post by coachbk on Sept 21, 2015 9:28:04 GMT -5
'Here Today' is just shite. That's just crazy talk. It's hilarious to hear you preferring PIPES OF PEACE while putting down the lyrics off TUG OF WAR. Are you for real with that? You criticize the words to the song TOW over the "burn baby burn" sentiment of the POP song? How do you defend the absurd kindergarten lyrics of POP songs like "Average Person" ("dah dah dah dah"), "Keep Undercover" ("what good is butter if you haven't got bread?"), the "dustbin lid" bit of "The Other Me", and on and on...? You criticize the wonderful "Ballroom Dancing" as "granny music", when there are way more granny moments off POP. Bizarrre... Exactly Joe. Panther's dislike of the songs on TUG OF WAR is bizarre and inconsistent. I can't think of a single McCartney song (outside of "Bip Bop") that I would heap the kind of negative comments on. Same thing with Lennon (but substitute "How Do You Sleep" for "Bip Bop"). And it isn't just "Beatles worship". I can't think of a single Kinks song I would attack the way Panther goes after Paul's work. Yes Paul has some very average songs. Anyone with that volume of work would. But to criticize them the way Panther has on this post sounds like the type of stuff you hear from non-fans!
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 21, 2015 11:29:50 GMT -5
Come on guys, do we really measure fanship to an artist here by having to agree with everyone!
I have the converse problem of Panther who is being harshly and unfairly criticized for not liking all of TOW: I am harshly and unfairly criticized and my Macca fanship questioned because I love all of Wings Wild Life!
I should be the one asking some folks here how they can be a Paul fan if they do not adore all of WWL!
TOW is an album that dropped out of my Top 10 fav Macca albums many years ago. On release I was overjoyed that it was not another Macca II! LOL, now I may like Macca II more than TOW, although it is still close.
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 21, 2015 17:52:18 GMT -5
I think Panther bought the album for the Michael Jackson tracks. We tend to like now what we liked then.
Most of the songs on Tug of War were out of my comfort zone of rock and roll, guitar heavy music. Just about every song was something different. Ballroom Dancing was a complete shock. Paul was dressed up in a completely different sound. But by golly, the production on the album was great. It all sounded terrific. The songs were amazing.
Now, I don't hear anything that sounds dated. It is still fresh.
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Post by Panther on Sept 21, 2015 18:30:49 GMT -5
I am not saying Pipes of Peace is a masterpiece. It's not. Trying to be objective about it, I'd probably rate it about 3 or 3.5 stars out of 5. But I'd rate Tug of War maybe 2.5.
'Average Person' is indeed a crap song that I cannot listen to. 'Pipes of Peace' isn't a lyrical wonder, but it says its message straight and clear, and wraps it up in a winning melody (UK #1 hit). I don't find it pretentious at all, unlike the overblown 'Tug of War'. The two Michael Jackson songs are all right -- 'Say, Say, Say' is quite good because it's actually a bit funky, and 'The Man' is lyrical nonsense but a bright, shimmering melody that at least is very good musically. I love "The Other Me" (which sounds to me like a Britpop song), and I've never had an issue with the "dustbin lid" line. "Keep Under Cover" nearly reaches the fey, cheeseball lows of 'Average Person' but is almost rescued by its fast tempo and funny vocal. 'So Bad' and 'Though Our Love' are very nice, lovely, touching songs. 'Sweetest Little Show' is an overlooked gem -- one of my favorite Paul tracks. 'Hey Hey' and 'Tug of Peace' are a bit of filler, but enjoyable all the same -- isn't it 'Hey Hey' where Paul plays with jazz great Stanley Clarke?
Pipes of Peace is not going to be confused with Abbey Road anytime soon, but I'd rather listen to this any day over Tug of War or Back to the Egg or London Town.
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 21, 2015 19:46:18 GMT -5
This remind me of back in the day, when Pipe of Peace came out, a co-worker who was a white guy who bought a lot of rap, LL Cool J, Public Enemy, The Beastie Boys, and some of what was considered hard rock at the time, Motley Crue, Guns and Roses.
He wouldn't hear anything about the Beatles or Paul McCartney; any of the old school stuff. But he was a Michael Jackson fan and he told me that he had gotten Pipes of Peace. He would kind of mumble and half-nod that it was okay.
I couldn't help but think, of all the albums he would hear, it had to be Pipes of Peace, one of Paul's worse.
On a side note, when he got married, I bought a lot of his CDs, as well as his speakers. So, my copy of Walking with a Panther came from him.
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Post by coachbk on Sept 21, 2015 21:08:17 GMT -5
Come on guys, do we really measure fanship to an artist here by having to agree with everyone! I have the converse problem of Panther who is being harshly and unfairly criticized for not liking all of TOW: I am harshly and unfairly criticized and my Macca fanship questioned because I love all of Wings Wild Life! I should be the one asking some folks here how they can be a Paul fan if they do not adore all of WWL! TOW is an album that dropped out of my Top 10 fav Macca albums many years ago. On release I was overjoyed that it was not another Macca II! LOL, now I may like Macca II more than TOW, although it is still close. I don't think it is unfair criticism at all. Panther's attacks on the songs on TUG OF WAR deserve all the criticism and questioning they are getting from JoeK and I. I'll also point out Panther's past criticism of "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey". I just find Panther to be a bit of a pseudo-intellectual, elitist, snob at times. And his critique of TOW fits right into that category. Conversely I found his review of PIPES OF PEACE in a more recent post to be quite objective and interesting.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 21, 2015 23:35:53 GMT -5
But Coach you hate Wings Wild Life so there is no way that you are a true Paul McCartney fan. It is ridiculous to slam that album!
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Post by Panther on Sept 22, 2015 3:16:31 GMT -5
I just find Panther to be a bit of a pseudo-intellectual, elitist, snob at times. Finally, you're starting to see the real me!!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 22, 2015 6:12:12 GMT -5
But Coach you hate Wings Wild Life so there is no way that you are a true Paul McCartney fan. It is ridiculous to slam that album! Nice try, John ... but the Solo Beatles are not held to the same standards as The Beatles' studio albums. (I like WILD LIFE too!).
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 22, 2015 7:58:12 GMT -5
But Coach you hate Wings Wild Life so there is no way that you are a true Paul McCartney fan. It is ridiculous to slam that album! Nice try, John ... but the Solo Beatles are not held to the same standards as The Beatles' studio albums. (I like WILD LIFE too!). I said PAUL MCCARTNEY FAN not Beatles fan in relation to a Paul solo album. So why is Panther not a "true McCartney fan" for thinking much of TOW is twee but not so-called Paul fans who diss WWL? Who makes that decision on what Macca albums are Paul fan-worthy?
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Post by Panther on Sept 22, 2015 8:36:31 GMT -5
I'd much rather listen to Wild Life than Tug of War.
Paul's first three solo albums are by far his best. 'Ram' is a bit weaker with a lot of nonsense filler ('Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey' being the low-point of Paul's career to that point), but 'McCartney' and 'Wild Life' are great.
If he'd kept in that direction, he'd now be very highly regarded by successive generations of fans (such as my generation for whom 'good production' was a dirty term), and would probably be regarded as the best and coolest Beatle (the one thing he strives for but will never have).
Unfortunately for Paul, circa 1973 he instead elected to compete with ABBA and the Captain & Tennille for 14-year-olds' and 'easy listening' radio play.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 22, 2015 9:05:15 GMT -5
IPaul's first three solo albums are by far his best. 'Ram' is a bit weaker with a lot of nonsense filler ('Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey' being the low-point of Paul's career to that point), but 'McCartney' and 'Wild Life' are great. If he'd kept in that direction, he'd now be very highly regarded by successive generations of fans (such as my generation for whom 'good production' was a dirty term), and would probably be regarded as the best and coolest Beatle (the one thing he strives for but will never have). I agree with you on the last thought about his never going to be considered cool. But it may be said that if Paul had not gone that route and not become HUGE as "Wings" in the 1970s, he never would have had the staying power to make these latter "cutting edge" albums. And Paul IS very highly regarded by successive generations of young fans today. Many of them love him, go to his concerts, and he's their favorite Beatle.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 22, 2015 9:07:35 GMT -5
Nice try, John ... but the Solo Beatles are not held to the same standards as The Beatles' studio albums. (I like WILD LIFE too!). I said PAUL MCCARTNEY FAN not Beatles fan in relation to a Paul solo album. So why is Panther not a "true McCartney fan" for thinking much of TOW is twee but not so-called Paul fans who diss WWL? Who makes that decision on what Macca albums are Paul fan-worthy? Wow, it's so frustrating how people don't understand others when communicating on The Internet. Not me... Nowhere have I said that Panther "is not a McCartney Fan". I would never say those things with regard to opinions on The Solo Beatles, because IMO they're not held to the same standards as The Beatles.
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Post by coachbk on Sept 22, 2015 11:26:24 GMT -5
But Coach you hate Wings Wild Life so there is no way that you are a true Paul McCartney fan. It is ridiculous to slam that album! I have never said I hate WILD LIFE! Actually (with one exception) I rather enjoy WILD LIFE. It was a decent extended EP or 2/3 of an album. "Tomorrow" is an excellent song. "Mumbo is fun. "Some People Never Know", "Dear Friend", and "Wild Life" are all decent 3 minute songs padded out to 5+ minutes to fill out the album. I probably like "I Am Your Singer" more than the average fan does. "Love Is Strange" I have always found a little...strange, but it's OK. That leaves "Bip Bop" which I truly do hate. If it was one song out of 10 or 12 it wouldn't devalue the album as much as it does when it is one of just eight songs. Thus overall that makes WILD LIFE a rather mediocre effort among Paul's recorded output. Anyway I do get your point. Let me put it this way. If there were a performer I had as much negative to say about as Panther has to say about Paul, I would not consider myself a much of a fan of that performer. Others may have a different opinion about that and that's OK.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 22, 2015 17:54:15 GMT -5
But Coach you hate Wings Wild Life so there is no way that you are a true Paul McCartney fan. It is ridiculous to slam that album! I have never said I hate WILD LIFE! Actually (with one exception) I rather enjoy WILD LIFE. It was a decent extended EP or 2/3 of an album. "Tomorrow" is an excellent song. "Mumbo is fun. "Some People Never Know", "Dear Friend", and "Wild Life" are all decent 3 minute songs padded out to 5+ minutes to fill out the album. I probably like "I Am Your Singer" more than the average fan does. "Love Is Strange" I have always found a little...strange, but it's OK. That leaves "Bip Bop" which I truly do hate. If it was one song out of 10 or 12 it wouldn't devalue the album as much as it does when it is one of just eight songs. Thus overall that makes WILD LIFE a rather mediocre effort among Paul's recorded output. Anyway I do get your point. Let me put it this way. If there were a performer I had as much negative to say about as Panther has to say about Paul, I would not consider myself a much of a fan of that performer. Others may have a different opinion about that and that's OK. Cool! That's not bad, you like a lot of WWL! LOL, I do remember your intense dislike of "Bip Bop" and maybe that tainted my memory of your feelings towards this album We had a great poster here(really Steve's first Board started November 2001) named Ron Nasty who was so pro-Lennon it made me look like a MMH! Ron had little use for Paul's solo career but when he praised solo Paul it was high praise indeed. Ron actually softened on solo Macca and was a huge "Chaos" fan I believe. But I view posters like Panther, sayne or Joseph McCabe(remember him) as I did Ron Nasty: as tough as nails on the guys but when they give praise pay attention because they really mean it so those songs must really be good. As I have said here a thousand times, no one on this Board has ever convinced me to hate a song I love but they've turned me around many times so that I love songs I once hated and that is really the secret, to like more and more music.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 22, 2015 18:02:16 GMT -5
I said PAUL MCCARTNEY FAN not Beatles fan in relation to a Paul solo album. So why is Panther not a "true McCartney fan" for thinking much of TOW is twee but not so-called Paul fans who diss WWL? Who makes that decision on what Macca albums are Paul fan-worthy? Wow, it's so frustrating how people don't understand others when communicating on The Internet. Not me... Nowhere have I said that Panther "is not a McCartney Fan". I would never say those things with regard to opinions on The Solo Beatles, because IMO they're not held to the same standards as The Beatles. JoeKarlosi, just a doggone moment, haven't you preached over and over that the Solo Beatles catalog was overall excellent and that people shouldn't live in the past "boo-hooing" the Beatles but rather accept the break-up and enjoy all of that additional music we have been given? I remember that discussion with dear vectisfabber who had written that his heart was broken at the break-up and the solo music has never held the same magic to him. You gave him brotherly encouragement to carry-on and enjoy music from the four camps! That always inspired me, your pep talk! Now Solo Beatles mean squat?!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 22, 2015 19:30:41 GMT -5
Wow, it's so frustrating how people don't understand others when communicating on The Internet. Not me... Nowhere have I said that Panther "is not a McCartney Fan". I would never say those things with regard to opinions on The Solo Beatles, because IMO they're not held to the same standards as The Beatles. JoeKarlosi, just a doggone moment, haven't you preached over and over that the Solo Beatles catalog was overall excellent and that people shouldn't live in the past "boo-hooing" the Beatles but rather accept the break-up and enjoy all of that additional music we have been given? I remember that discussion with dear vectisfabber who had written that his heart was broken at the break-up and the solo music has never held the same magic to him. You gave him brotherly encouragement to carry-on and enjoy music from the four camps! That always inspired me, your pep talk! Now Solo Beatles mean squat?! Aw.. come on, Huck! Seriously now -- of course I have always been interested in - and have promoted -- The Solo Catalogue. It certainly is good and worth investigating... but there's too much so-so stuff in there amidst the good and great to call it "Excellent"! Yes, I stand by my conviction that it does not end after The Beatles Breakup, sure. But once again you are exaggerating, or mis-representing; I would never say the Solo Beatles mean "squat". I think you're just scrambling about to try and find something comparable that I've said to soften your calling SGT PEPPER "rubbish". Forget it -- it's done with! I know you like The Beatles.
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Post by markc on Sept 23, 2015 15:42:55 GMT -5
My friend always referred to the album as "Pieces of Pipe" because it was such a dud. I never contradicted him. I always considered the album as rejected tracks from the triumphant Tug of War.
It occurs to me that Paul's solo career has included phases that can be delineated by his collaborators, i.e. Denny Laine, Eric Stewart, Elvis Costello, Youth etc. Jeff Lynne even falls into that category for Flaming Pie.
Does Paul choose a musical partner to be second banana or does he want someone to be an equal. I tend to think it is the former. Some of Paul's duets with top acts are very nice: All of Me with Eric Clapton, Walk With You with Ringo. Can't comment on the Kanye West things. never heard them.
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Post by coachbk on Sept 23, 2015 19:47:38 GMT -5
[quote author=" markc" Can't comment on the Kanye West things. never heard them. [/quote] Well on the one Kayne song I heard I couldn't "hear" Paul at all!
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Post by coachbk on Sept 23, 2015 19:51:32 GMT -5
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We had a great poster here(really Steve's first Board started November 2001) named Ron Nasty who was so pro-Lennon it made me look like a MMH! Ron had little use for Paul's solo career but when he praised solo Paul it was high praise indeed. Ron actually softened on solo Macca and was a huge "Chaos" fan I believe.
But I view posters like Panther, sayne or Joseph McCabe(remember him) as I did Ron Nasty: as tough as nails on the guys but when they give praise pay attention because they really mean it so those songs must really be good.
As I have said here a thousand times, no one on this Board has ever convinced me to hate a song I love but they've turned me around many times so that I love songs I once hated and that is really the secret, to like more and more music. [/quote]
Yeah I remember McCabe. He was very critical of Paul. But I also remember his praise of "For No One". It is one of my all-time favorites of Paul and one could not doubt for one second that McCabe thought it was a great song as well.
I also remember he was a huge George fan and particularly enthused about WONDERWALL MUSIC being an overlooked classic. Can't say I agreed with him after listening to it, but I did discover one brilliant piece of work called "Red Lady Too".
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Post by nine on Sept 24, 2015 22:21:43 GMT -5
'Tug of War' (the song) is abysmal. Here, Paul take a rather nice melody (which, in any case, is a dime a dozen to him) and ruins it by attempting profundity (never Paul's strong point), and ends up sounding .... I don't mind the song but I don't rate it it too highly. I don't like it when Paul attempts to be profound, though I don't feel that TOW falls into the same kind of what I consider pretentiousness of C'mon People, Big Boys Bickering or How Many People.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 4:52:59 GMT -5
Paul's albums are always made up of songs of varying quality.
POP and TOW are no different. TOW has more peaks and troughs when compared to POP.
That's the main reason why i prefer POP. It's a better listening experience.
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Post by nine on Sept 27, 2015 3:34:43 GMT -5
I have never said I hate WILD LIFE! Actually (with one exception) I rather enjoy WILD LIFE. It was a decent extended EP or 2/3 of an album. "Tomorrow" is an excellent song. "Mumbo is fun. "Some People Never Know", "Dear Friend", and "Wild Life" are all decent 3 minute songs padded out to 5+ minutes to fill out the album. I probably like "I Am Your Singer" more than the average fan does. "Love Is Strange" I have always found a little...strange, but it's OK. That leaves "Bip Bop" which I truly do hate. If it was one song out of 10 or 12 it wouldn't devalue the album as much as it does when it is one of just eight songs. Thus overall that makes WILD LIFE a rather mediocre effort among Paul's recorded output. Anyway I do get your point. Let me put it this way. If there were a performer I had as much negative to say about as Panther has to say about Paul, I would not consider myself a much of a fan of that performer. Others may have a different opinion about that and that's OK. Cool! That's not bad, you like a lot of WWL! LOL, I do remember your intense dislike of "Bip Bop" and maybe that tainted my memory of your feelings towards this album We had a great poster here(really Steve's first Board started November 2001) named Ron Nasty who was so pro-Lennon it made me look like a MMH! Ron had little use for Paul's solo career but when he praised solo Paul it was high praise indeed. Ron actually softened on solo Macca and was a huge "Chaos" fan I believe. But I view posters like Panther, sayne or Joseph McCabe(remember him) as I did Ron Nasty: as tough as nails on the guys but when they give praise pay attention because they really mean it so those songs must really be good. As I have said here a thousand times, no one on this Board has ever convinced me to hate a song I love but they've turned me around many times so that I love songs I once hated and that is really the secret, to like more and more music. I like Bip Bop. My least favourite track of WWL is I Am Your Singer. When WWL is re-released I look forward to the extras. Mumbo sounds like it was a jam and I would like to think that there were other jams with this line up of Wings committed to tape. I hope these see the light of day.
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Post by coachbk on Sept 28, 2015 19:56:23 GMT -5
I do have to add this about "Bip Bop". I used to think it was a totally horrible song. But I recently heard a live recording from the early Wings tour and it wasn't bad. There was a nice little early T Rex sound to it. I've now decided that While it still isn't much of a song, it is the performance/recording of it on WILD LIFE that is truly atrocious. Why Paul chose to sing it the way he did is beyond me. His vocals simply reek. Also the live version is very short. The WILD LIFE version seems to go on forever (4:10 is way too long for such a flimsy piece of music). I'd much prefer a 1:50 or so edit. I also don't think Paul did himself any favors starting off his new group's first album with two nonsense numbers. While "Mumbo" was fun, getting a second song of nonsense lyrics was a bit much. For the younger person hearing WILD LIFE today they may wonder why there was so much negative written about it, but at the time of release those who shelled out their hard earned cash couldn't help but feel ripped off by such a half baked effort of 8 songs, many of them obviously padded in length to make a full album. WILD LIFE would have been much better received if it had been labelled (and priced) as an extended EP. And I'll second the thought that a re-issue with several bonus tracks is overdue and could do much to continue the re-evaluation of this album.
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 28, 2015 21:15:09 GMT -5
I've always liked Bip Bop. I've said this here before, but at the time of release, the song was used for a Louisville Zoo commercial. This framed the song perfectly. Happy kids jumping around and animals mugging for the camera. I was 14 at the time, not too old to enjoy a kids song.
Most of the songs on Wings' Wild Life (both John S Damm and I like the full title) did overstay their welcome. Tomorrow, probably my favorite song on the album, has the dramatic finish and then the revisit. And then the revisit again.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Sept 29, 2015 20:22:13 GMT -5
I like TOW much better than POP. I'm not all that enthused about the remasters, even the outtakes. Maybe it's me, but if you're gonna put this stuff out, be a little more generous.
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