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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 17, 2013 6:25:08 GMT -5
Nice cover, very final that picture. Actually not. It features the Beatles how they appeared in very early 1969. By the time they made their truly last album, ABBEY ROAD, both John and George had beards and Paul no longer had his. Thanks for another proof that LET IT BE was their next-to-last recorded album.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 6:36:47 GMT -5
Nice cover, very final that picture. Actually not. It features the Beatles how they appeared in very early 1969. By the time they made their truly last album, ABBEY ROAD, both John and George had beards and Paul no longer had his. Thanks for another proof that LET IT BE was their next-to-last recorded album. I rechecked the release dates of Abbey Road and Let It Be,just to be sure and Let It Be was definitely their last album.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 6:51:11 GMT -5
Did Glyn Johns go on and have a successful career in music after his Get Back album efforts were rejected.
I know he worked with The Eagles in the 70's, but what else did he do, did he ever comment on the album that came out on the 8th May 1970 entitled Let It Be.
Which had an entirely different cover to the Get Back album.
Interesting to note during 69 and 70 how they altered between beards, moustaches and different hair lengths, hard to gauge when these photos were taken.
I do like the Get Back album cover best, with it's parody of the Please Please Me cover, with much more hirsute Beatles present.They'd been through a lot.
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Post by andyb on Sept 17, 2013 7:45:54 GMT -5
Glyn Johns did and probably still has very successful career. He did loads of people including The Who and The Rolling Stones.
He pioneered a drum recording technique in stereo with 3 microphones called appropriately the "glyn johns method". It's basically the set up you see on Ringo's kit for the sessions.
I think it was Glyn who said he thought the film showed all the miserable bits and that it wasn't like that at all and he remembers not stopping laughing most of the time. I'm sure someone said that.
I think he did some recording with Wings that ended up being aborted.
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Post by mikev on Sept 17, 2013 8:11:32 GMT -5
Did Glyn Johns go on and have a successful career in music after his Get Back album efforts were rejected. I know he worked with The Eagles in the 70's, but what else did he do, did he ever comment on the album that came out on the 8th May 1970 entitled Let It Be. Which had an entirely different cover to the Get Back album. Interesting to note during 69 and 70 how they altered between beards, moustaches and different hair lengths, hard to gauge when these photos were taken. I do like the Get Back album cover best, with it's parody of the Please Please Me cover, with much more hirsute Beatles present.They'd been through a lot. According to Lewisohn, the Get Back mix was finished in late May of 1969, here is where he mentions the stairwell photo being shot but from George's hair length I would guess the photo itself more like April. In March of 1970, the title was changed to Let it Be, but the cover was still of the stairwell.
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Post by mikev on Sept 17, 2013 8:14:46 GMT -5
I watched the recent Eagles special, and have a different perspective on Glyn's style as I contrast his mixes (simple but effective) with the later more produced sound the Eagles came up with.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Sept 17, 2013 15:09:01 GMT -5
Did Glyn Johns go on and have a successful career in music after his Get Back album efforts were rejected. He worked with the Faces, too, though I don't know how much offhand.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 17, 2013 16:17:00 GMT -5
I rechecked the release dates of Abbey Road and Let It Be,just to be sure and Let It Be was definitely their last album. I rechecked the recording dates of Let It Be and Abbey Road (in that order I might add), and ABBEY ROAD was definitely their last recorded album as a four-man group. (Even though the Threetles returned to do "I Me Mine" and to tweak a couple of other things for these older recordings). I've also carefully considered your POV, and so I've also rechecked the release dates of the 1990s ANTHOLOGY albums, and by your criteria those were definitely the last Beatles albums.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2013 6:49:33 GMT -5
I rechecked the release dates of Abbey Road and Let It Be,just to be sure and Let It Be was definitely their last album. I rechecked the recording dates of Let It Be and Abbey Road (in that order I might add), and ABBEY ROAD was definitely their last recorded album as a four-man group. (Even though the Threetles returned to do "I Me Mine" and to tweak a couple of other things for these older recordings). I've also carefully considered your POV, and so I've also rechecked the release dates of the 1990s ANTHOLOGY albums, and by your criteria those were definitely the last Beatles albums. I've considered your POV Joe about the Anthology albums and i don't see any similarities between albums that were made during the Beatles actual career, when there were 4 of them, a time when they didn't have to be in the studio at the same time to be Beatles, there were still 4 of them, it wasn't three of them at that point,nobody had left the band . The Anthologies were some gimmicky compliation albums put together over 20 years after the band officially split, designed purely as a cash cow for some struggling ex Beatles, that's the time the Threetles came into existence. Threetles due to a key member of the long gone band having been blown away by a lunatic some 10 plus years earlier. Big Difference.. Let It Be, still the last album.
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 18, 2013 7:10:37 GMT -5
I was looking for the thread where we were talking about Let it Be being released. Someone said that the Beatles needed to show their warts, show they weren't all the fresh faced, cleaned up boy that were on Sullivan.
Wogblog has the new Beatles' calendars. I see the Abbey Road cover and maybe another two photos that were taken after '66. Everything else was early mop-top Beatles. Who is making these decisions these days?
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Post by mikev on Sept 18, 2013 8:27:04 GMT -5
I was looking for the thread where we were talking about Let it Be being released. Someone said that the Beatles needed to show their warts, show they weren't all the fresh faced, cleaned up boy that were on Sullivan. Wogblog has the new Beatles' calendars. I see the Abbey Road cover and maybe another two photos that were taken after '66. Everything else was early mop-top Beatles. Who is making these decisions these days? I've always hated that there seems to be more images of the B & W mop tops than the grungy and cool late Beatles. But as far as showing warts, the actual late Jan. 69 performances have vety little warts to them. The performances mixed in proper studio fashion (mix/master as opposed to editing) are very good. One highlight is Don't Let Me Down in stereo, where you can feel Paul laying out his bass lines, and hear George actually sing something on the roof-top (as opposed to him singing "Something" on the roof-top, which was already partially penned and rehearsed and would have been pretty cool in general).
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 18, 2013 17:35:17 GMT -5
No difference at all. Thanks, fabfour, for finally settling this matter and convincing me that the last Beatles album in actuality is neither LET IT BE nor ABBEY ROAD ... it is the ANTHOLOGY albums.
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Post by andyb on Sept 19, 2013 4:19:59 GMT -5
I'm wondering which will happen first. Let it Be will be released on DVD or You two will finally decide what was The Beatles last album . . . . . somewhere private.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 6:03:01 GMT -5
No difference at all. Thanks, fabfour, for finally settling this matter and convincing me that the last Beatles album in actuality is neither LET IT BE nor ABBEY ROAD ... it is the ANTHOLOGY albums. It's fine with me if you want to fantasise, continually.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 6:06:00 GMT -5
I'm wondering which will happen first. Let it Be will be released on DVD or You two will finally decide what was The Beatles last album . . . . . somewhere private.
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Post by mikev on Sept 19, 2013 6:34:33 GMT -5
No difference at all. Thanks, fabfour, for finally settling this matter and convincing me that the last Beatles album in actuality is neither LET IT BE nor ABBEY ROAD ... it is the ANTHOLOGY albums. It's fine with me if you want to fantasise, continually. ...or Get a Room....
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 19, 2013 16:53:37 GMT -5
Mike, what do you mean by "Get Help"? ... I'll tell you the kind of help we could use here -- people helping out by explaining that LET IT BE was the last Beatles album released, but that ABBEY ROAD was the last Beatles album recorded. (I believe you've tried to explain this before, Mike, but where are the others...? ) ..
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 19, 2013 17:02:48 GMT -5
Mike, what do you mean by "Get Help"? ... I'll tell you the kind of help we could use here -- people helping out by explaining that LET IT BE was the last Beatles album released, but that ABBEY ROAD was the last Beatles album recorded. (I believe you've tried to explain this before, Mike, but where are the others...? ) .. George Martin recorded strings for While My Guitar, so I think Love might be the last album.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 19, 2013 17:03:48 GMT -5
It's fine with me if you want to fantasise, continually. I'm not fantasizing at all by acknowledging the fact that 99% of LET IT BE was recorded before ABBEY ROAD was; not after it. Of course you also think that Beatles Expert And Historian Mark Lewisohn is also "fantasizing" by stating that fact, right? Sounds to me like you're the one who's fantasizing. And yes, if you consider PGR getting together to record "I Me Mine" in 1970 as qualifying LET IT BE as "the last Beatles album", then by your own criteria, the Anthology project with PGR recording "Free as A Bird" and "Real Love" and putting them on new albums of earlier material should also qualify. They billed themselves as "The Beatles" for those -- and at least John was on the tracks!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 19, 2013 17:07:13 GMT -5
George Martin recorded strings for While My Guitar, so I think Love might be the last album. You'd have to check with fabfour. If none of the four contributed new stuff to it, I wonder if it counts? But if he does count Phil Spector's strings for LIB as making that "the last album", then --- you're right about LOVE...!
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 21, 2013 9:41:24 GMT -5
Hey, if Paul succeeds in his quest to convince the kiddies that he was The Beatles, then his new album New will be the last Beatles album....until Paul's next one!
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 21, 2013 10:40:36 GMT -5
Hey, if Paul succeeds in his quest to convince the kiddies that he was The Beatles, then his new album New will be the last Beatles album....until Paul's next one! Didn't Jeff Lynne reform ELO without any other original member? He said he was ELO, so it didn't matter. George and Ringo was on the album so really it was closer to a Beatles' reunion than an ELO one.
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Post by beatlesfansunite on Sept 24, 2013 1:06:07 GMT -5
Let It Be won't be released because Paul is concerned about his image, and how it would look re-releasing a movie in which (I saw it on YouTube) he's a massive douche. Yoko won't allow it because she's viewed derisively by all parties, and Olivia and Dhani won't allow it because George (I believe) threatened to veto it before he died (my timeline isn't perfect, but McCartney thought up Let It Be… Naked and a re-release of the film in 2000, George gave approval of the music, but didn't give permission, so they said it wasn't going to be released because of internal tensions. I stand to be corrected, but that's how I know the story)
Also, a release was planned for 2003, along with Let It Be… Naked. Also, from a source in 2008: "global brand … if the public sees the darker side of the story. Neither Paul nor Ringo would feel comfortable publishing a film showing The Beatles getting on each other's nerves … There's all sorts of extra footage showing more squabbles but it's unlikely it will ever see the light of day in Paul and Ringo's lifetime."
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Post by mikev on Sept 24, 2013 6:50:25 GMT -5
Let It Be won't be released because Paul is concerned about his image, and how it would look re-releasing a movie in which (I saw it on YouTube) he's a massive douche. Yoko won't allow it because she's viewed derisively by all parties, and Olivia and Dhani won't allow it because George (I believe) threatened to veto it before he died (my timeline isn't perfect, but McCartney thought up Let It Be… Naked and a re-release of the film in 2000, George gave approval of the music, but didn't give permission, so they said it wasn't going to be released because of internal tensions. I stand to be corrected, but that's how I know the story) Also, a release was planned for 2003, along with Let It Be… Naked. Also, from a source in 2008: "global brand … if the public sees the darker side of the story. Neither Paul nor Ringo would feel comfortable publishing a film showing The Beatles getting on each other's nerves … There's all sorts of extra footage showing more squabbles but it's unlikely it will ever see the light of day in Paul and Ringo's lifetime." There are also dozens of brilliant live performances in stereo, where there are all smiles and no squabbling. If they want to cover up the fighting, they can still release these performances. I have a DVD of just that, though the quality is not as pristine as the cuts on the Anthology. I have no desire to ever see the movie again- I just want the public to see this-it is the late /last representation of the band as a live entity and it is fantastic!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 5:32:16 GMT -5
Let it Be isn't a mediocre album. There's some cracking songs on there. Well said, i think it's their best album, especially compared to the self indulgent double album they recorded after their trip to India
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 5:33:22 GMT -5
I know that Let IT BE was worked on before Abbey Road, however it was shelved, they recorded Abbey Road, then went back to Let It Be, tidied some aspects of it and released it last. I hope you understand this post. I hope you eventually understand Beatles history. I guess Mark Lewisohn, Beatles Historian, needs to understand Beatles history too, then -- because he says that ABBEY ROAD was the final Beatles album. It means nothing that only three of the four Beatles went back to LIB and tidied up two or three songs off the entire album before releasing it out of sequence. The tension is only a small part of it ... Fleetwood Mac's RUMOURS was recorded under the most impossible personal conditions and yet it is one of the greatest records ever created. With LET IT BE, it's just half-baked, and furthermore is not really what The Beatles intended going into it, with the Phil Spector tampering and so forth (even though I do like some of Spector's meddling) . It's well documented that overall it was a happy album experience to make, if not perfect. But aside from that, ABBEY ROAD is a much superior album, and often considered one of their best, if not THE very best. Your problem is that since you consider LET IT BE the Beatles' "best album ever" (which is already hard enough to believe) you want it to be their very last recorded work that they ever did together. And it is not. I re-read this thread and i see Ursa's issues
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Dec 21, 2013 6:29:33 GMT -5
I re-read this thread and i see Ursa's issues I re-read this thread (thanks to you attempting to be a firestarter here) and realize he is not the only silly one around here. I don't know which is more delusional -- thinking that John Lennon's murder was a government conspiracy, or not accepting that ABBEY ROAD was the last true Beatles album, even when supported by respected Beatles Historians, such as Mark Lewisohn. Everything I pointed out in reply to you in that last post you just re-quoted is sensible and right on the money. It's scary how you choose to still disregard all those valid observations. Look at you - delightfully drudging up this months-old argument, just to stir the pot!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 6:47:12 GMT -5
I re-read this thread and i see Ursa's issues I re-read this thread (thanks to you attempting to be a firestarter here) and realize he is not the only silly one around here. I don't know which is more delusional -- thinking that John Lennon's murder was a government conspiracy, or not accepting that ABBEY ROAD was the last true Beatles album, even when supported by respected Beatles Historians, such as Mark Lewisohn. Everything I pointed out in reply to you in that last post you just re-quoted is sensible and right on the money. It's scary how you choose to still disregard all those valid observations. Look at you - delightfully drudging up this months-old argument, just to stir the pot! here's another thing about Ursa's comments, he said you resort to name calling when getting desperate..here you are calling me silly, whereas i never resorted to name calling. You do like to have the last say, regardless of it's merit.. I only ever say that Abbey Road wasn't their last album and the release dates back me up.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Dec 21, 2013 6:56:31 GMT -5
here's another thing about Ursa's comments, he said you resort to name calling when getting desperate..here you are calling me silly, whereas i never resorted to name calling. You do like to have the last say, regardless of it's merit.. Oh, you silly, you. And why did you revisit this months-old debate? I guess it was to have the last say. But you know, whether you or I (or anyone) likes to have the 'last word', I have always been amused when people point it out as if it means anything. So what, LOL?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Dec 21, 2013 6:58:42 GMT -5
I only ever say that Abbey Road wasn't their last album and the release dates back me up. I see. Actually, ON AIR: BBC VOL. 2 was their last album.
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