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Post by Steve Marinucci on Feb 2, 2016 13:53:24 GMT -5
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Post by kc on Feb 2, 2016 15:45:41 GMT -5
Well, I loved his last studio effort, so I hope this is happening. I’m wondering though how this fits in with what I assumed would be his next release: a soundtrack to High In The Clouds? Moreover, it must be almost two years ago that it was reported Paul was half way through making the next Fireman album. Maybe that was not accurate. We will just have to wait and see.
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Post by debjorgo on Feb 2, 2016 18:50:09 GMT -5
Adele's producer? "“He is really embracing the pop direction of his last album and wants to continue in that vein with his new stuff,” the source said."?
With the right producer, his stuff could suck as good as the rest of pop music today.
I guess Paul's giving up on maintaining his reputation as a Rock and Roll great.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 2, 2016 20:27:24 GMT -5
Paul seeking out currently popular producers is nothing new as Steve points out. Paul laid a turkey despite hiring then red-hot Hugh Padgham for Press To Play but hit a home run in my book at least with Nigel Godrich on Chaos And Creation In The Backyard. Paul will never work with Godrich again because despite making a brilliant album, it didn't go to #1 and Godrich reportedly spoke his mind to Paul and thus made Paul work a little harder than normal. But it paid off! And Paul should not be so quick to emulate "Hello," one of the most parodied songs since Paul's own "Ebony And Ivory!" But I guess Paul wants a #1 after 30 some years and E&I was certainly that! www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/6776977/adele-hello-best-parodies
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Post by joshferrell on Feb 2, 2016 21:24:22 GMT -5
I'm still awaiting the song titled "Now and Then."
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Post by debjorgo on Feb 2, 2016 21:31:03 GMT -5
Paul seeking out currently popular producers is nothing new as Steve points out. Paul laid a turkey despite hiring then red-hot Hugh Padgham for Press To Play but hit a home run in my book at least with Nigel Godrich on Chaos And Creation In The Backyard. Paul will never work with Godrich again because despite making a brilliant album, it didn't go to #1 and Godrich reportedly spoke his mind to Paul and thus made Paul work a little harder than normal. But it paid off! And Paul should not be so quick to emulate "Hello," one of the most parodied songs since Paul's own "Ebony And Ivory!" But I guess Paul wants a #1 after 30 some years and E&I was certainly that! www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/6776977/adele-hello-best-parodiesHere's how we voted in another thread: Press to Play, dead center, right above Red Rose and topping Wild Life by 3. My list had Press at 10.
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Post by vectisfabber on Feb 8, 2016 4:37:59 GMT -5
I probably won't bother. I gave my copy of New away. I think my time as a fan of contemporary McCartney came to an end several years ago. I can't honestly say I've actually liked an album since Flaming Pie.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 8, 2016 8:00:05 GMT -5
I probably won't bother. I gave my copy of New away. I think my time as a fan of contemporary McCartney came to an end several years ago. I can't honestly say I've actually liked an album since Flaming Pie. Say it ain't so, Vectis!! You mean you didn't love the Cavern-esque teenage raunchiness of RUN DEVIL RUN? The deep soul-searching honesty of CHAOS AND CREATION? The versatile wonderment of MEMORY ALMOST FULL? The experimental gutsiness of ELECTRIC ARGUMENTS? The fresh newness and differing sounds of NEW ? Sad, my good man -- very sad -- to hear you having this opinion. Of course, we all have our tastes and preferences. But I still think NEW was one of Paul's all-time best, most accessible, and lively albums of his career!
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Post by stavros on Feb 9, 2016 16:02:07 GMT -5
I would say the 21st century has seen Paul put out some solid LPs.
Perhaps they are not thought of in the same light as his mid 70s output because times have changed and Paul is now remembered for being a Beatle rather than as a contemporary artist. But I thought "New" was a good collection without a truly outstanding track on it but it also didn't have any real clunkers on there either.
Who knows perhaps one day in the early 2030s even "Driving Rain" will enjoy a renaissance as part of the the NEW JSD Postulate?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 3:13:39 GMT -5
Who knows perhaps one day in the early 2030s even "Driving Rain" will enjoy a renaissance as part of the the NEW JSD Postulate? Driving Rain would be right at home, even now, as an addition to the JSD Postulate. Those postulate albums would always make up the bottom portion of a Paul album ranking table, unless voters were having a lend of us.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 10, 2016 10:37:18 GMT -5
Who knows perhaps one day in the early 2030s even "Driving Rain" will enjoy a renaissance as part of the the NEW JSD Postulate? Driving Rain would be right at home, even now, as an addition to the JSD Postulate. Those postulate albums would always make up the bottom portion of a Paul album ranking table, unless voters were having a lend of us. Hey fabfour, you mixer you! I loved Driving Rain upon first listen and I don't always do that with new Paul. For instance, I almost cried when I first heard Flowers In The Dirt but grew to absolutely love most of it(it was rather too long in CD format). But it took a concerted effort to love it. DR was instant love for me. I might not be as excited on Driving Rain these days but there are still many songs that thrill me from it. JoeK did a nice summary of recent albums although Joe has always been more enthusiastic on New than I have been. I have always said that it is a very pleasant or even very good listen but no one song really does it for me. As a whole it is a good listen but I think Paul's later-day masterpieces were Chaos and EA, two simply amazing albums for different reasons. Chaos is Paul's version of John's POB but in Paul's own melodic way while EA is pure magic, a beautiful 75 minute journey through a soundscape that would make all of the 1967 Beatles proud! It in many places blows SPLHCB out of the water and I mean that sincerely. MAF has great moments, like "Gratitude," but lots of filler which is why Paul shelved it to go make Chaos. Paul doesn't need gimmicky producers who are currently "the thing." He just needs to focus and be pushed hard by his producer(like he was on Chaos) or totally let his mind go wandering (preferably with the help of good reefer like he use to in The JSD Postulate years)as he seemingly did on EA! There is a difference in Paul letting his mind wander freely and being adventurous like on EA and being half-ass like he was on Press To Play, Off The Ground, London Town, etc.
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Post by vectisfabber on Feb 11, 2016 4:40:28 GMT -5
I probably won't bother. I gave my copy of New away. I think my time as a fan of contemporary McCartney came to an end several years ago. I can't honestly say I've actually liked an album since Flaming Pie. Say it ain't so, Vectis!! You mean you didn't love the Cavern-esque teenage raunchiness of RUN DEVIL RUN? The deep soul-searching honesty of CHAOS AND CREATION? The versatile wonderment of MEMORY ALMOST FULL? The experimental gutsiness of ELECTRIC ARGUMENTS? The fresh newness and differing sounds of NEW ? Sad, my good man -- very sad -- to hear you having this opinion. Of course, we all have our tastes and preferences. But I still think NEW was one of Paul's all-time best, most accessible, and lively albums of his career! I know. There was a time I wouldn't have believed it myself. But: Run Devil Run - an album of So What? Chaos And Creation - I tried to like it, really I did, but it's an unhappy album of good but broadly dispiriting material. Not something I listen to with pleasure. Memory Almost Full - there are several tracks I like on this, but far more which leave me indifferent, and at least one I loathe. Electric Arguments - given how highly others regarded this, I was extremely disappointed that it did nothing for me at all. New - a few decent songs, the rest resoundingly ordinary, and all delivered in a voice so plastered with effects that it can't help but remind me that it's not there any more. I might buy albums of old unreleased stuff, if he ever releases any, but I'm not sure I'll ever buy anything current from him again. And, believe me, I'm unhappier about it than you are.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 11, 2016 11:19:14 GMT -5
Memory Almost Full - there are several tracks I like on this, but far more which leave me indifferent, and at least one I loathe. In the world of Beatledom, that is one of our biggest disagreements, vectie! I know you are referring to "Gratitude" and you may have seen my thoughts posted above where I think that is killer Macca. We also disagree mightily on The JSD Postulate and especially Wings Wild Life. You love and want forever " Abbey Road Paul" while I want to take and bury that Paul in the deepest , darkest cavern! At least "Side 1 Abbey Road Paul, I much prefer his Side 2 contributions.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 11, 2016 20:46:38 GMT -5
I know we can agree to disagree, vectisfabber... that's cool. But just some thoughts all the same: Run Devil Run - an album of So What? So it's Paul rocking like never before... or at least as hard as he hadn't since he was18. I get that ... but think of how refreshingly different it is for Paul to open up and be vulnerable like this, for a change. In truth it does little for me also. Like I said - we can agree to disagree! Not all the songs sound "effects laden" to me. In fact, as I go through them in my mind now I can't think of any that sound that way... except maybe "I Can Bet"..? I still love that song. I doubt the old unreleased stuff could be as good as some of the truly fine songs he has released from the period of, say, 2005 - 2013. There are gems in there.. some like "Jenny Wren" are downright Beatle-worthy.
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Post by vectisfabber on Feb 12, 2016 4:16:10 GMT -5
Disagreement is fun - often good, even, and the basis of many an enjoyable discussion, and doesn't mean that the parties - you and I, me and JSD - are anything other than friends, so no concerns there.
But Paul's later albums, starting with Run Devil Run and his PETA performance, all show evidence of a fading voice, which fatally flaws them for me. And, with the exception of C&C, the material is mostly indifferent in my view, with the odd song which works well. And C&C, like JLPOB, is an album which I can admire for its artistry, but I really don't enjoy it. I'm not a big fan of music to cut your wrists to.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 12, 2016 11:57:57 GMT -5
Disagreement is fun - often good, even, and the basis of many an enjoyable discussion, and doesn't mean that the parties - you and I, me and JSD - are anything other than friends, so no concerns there. But Paul's later albums, starting with Run Devil Run and his PETA performance, all show evidence of a fading voice, which fatally flaws them for me. And, with the exception of C&C, the material is mostly indifferent in my view, with the odd song which works well. And C&C, like JLPOB, is an album which I can admire for its artistry, but I really don't enjoy it. I'm not a big fan of music to cut your wrists to. Friends!? Why when you disagree with me on The JSD Postulate I get so mad that even if you flew to the U.S. and were in Michigan, for instance, I would not drive up to see you!
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Post by vectisfabber on Feb 13, 2016 10:41:20 GMT -5
Disagreement is fun - often good, even, and the basis of many an enjoyable discussion, and doesn't mean that the parties - you and I, me and JSD - are anything other than friends, so no concerns there. But Paul's later albums, starting with Run Devil Run and his PETA performance, all show evidence of a fading voice, which fatally flaws them for me. And, with the exception of C&C, the material is mostly indifferent in my view, with the odd song which works well. And C&C, like JLPOB, is an album which I can admire for its artistry, but I really don't enjoy it. I'm not a big fan of music to cut your wrists to. Friends!? Why when you disagree with me on The JSD Postulate I get so mad that even if you flew to the U.S. and were in Michigan, for instance, I would not drive up to see you! Why, I will have to do just that, then, in order to give you a reason not to drive down!
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