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Post by winstonoboogie on Jul 4, 2016 17:50:49 GMT -5
Ah! OK! Thanks for the clarification!
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Post by vectisfabber on Jul 5, 2016 4:59:43 GMT -5
The Tokyo Concerts will surely be a part of the new movie. No wonder they sang like zombies. When I finally got to watch the two Japan concerts, I was surprised that they were rather better than I had expected them to be - not great, but definitely not the aural disasters I had been promised. And at least you could hear them. Let me throw out for forensic detective discussion the fact that the second concert is a semitone lower than the first one (George is capoed a fret lower, which means the other guitars must have been re-tuned). Anyone have any idea why?
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Post by lowbasso on Jul 5, 2016 22:26:14 GMT -5
The Tokyo Concerts will surely be a part of the new movie. No wonder they sang like zombies. When I finally got to watch the two Japan concerts, I was surprised that they were rather better than I had expected them to be - not great, but definitely not the aural disasters I had been promised. And at least you could hear them. Let me throw out for forensic detective discussion the fact that the second concert is a semitone lower than the first one (George is capoed a fret lower, which means the other guitars must have been re-tuned). Anyone have any idea why? Jet lag?
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 31, 2016 10:12:45 GMT -5
Ron Howard's "Three Takeaways" from making this film were: 1. The Beatles invented the stadium tour. Very true, I think of 1965 Shea and other large venues on that 1965 Tour. But this is nothing new. 2. The Beatles stood up to Segregation in the American South. This is a very cool fact and something that we can all feel proud about. But I read about it in the 1970's and Ron says it was controversial then so people knew about it back then. A nice point but not new. 3. The Beatles "Story" just feels like a movie. Yes, and there have been many documentaries and films depicting The Beatles. Nothing new there. www.etonline.com/movies/194305_exclusive_ron_howard_describes_the_beatles_eight_days_a_week_documentary_as_a_survival_story/Ron Howard did not "take away" from his work here that The Beatles were a great live band or apparently even a grossly underrated live band! I thought the point of this film was to document The Beatles as a live act, to shatter the lingering myth that The Beatles could only make great records in the studio with the help of George Martin. I understand the social phenomenon of The Beatles Tours and that is surely a part of this film maybe, I am afraid, the main point of it. I was hoping it would focus on their playing and the music itself. Ron Howard does seem like a lightweight in this regard. And telling his Beatles Wig story does not enchance his creds with me. But I do wish Opie would have worn a Beatles Wig on Andy Griffith. He would have been tarred and feathered in that Southern town!
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Post by lowbasso on Jul 31, 2016 11:51:09 GMT -5
Ron Howard's "Three Takeaways" from making this film were: 1. The Beatles invented the stadium tour. Very true, I think of 1965 Shea and other large venues on that 1965 Tour. But this is nothing new. 2. The Beatles stood up to Segregation in the American South. This is a very cool fact and something that we can all feel proud about. But I read about it in the 1970's and Ron says it was controversial then so people knew about it back then. A nice point but not new. 3. The Beatles "Story" just feels like a movie. Yes, and there have been many documentaries and films depicting The Beatles. Nothing new there. www.etonline.com/movies/194305_excl...survival_story/Ron Howard did not "take away" from his work here that The Beatles were a great live band or apparently even a grossly underrated live band! I thought the point of this film was to document The Beatles as a live act, to shatter the lingering myth that The Beatles could only make great records in the studio with the help of George Martin. I understand the social phenomenon of The Beatles Tours and that is surely a part of this film maybe, I am afraid, the main point of it. I was hoping it would focus on their playing and the music itself. Ron Howard does seem like a lightweight in this regard. And telling his Beatles Wig story does not enchance his creds with me. But I do wish Opie would have worn a Beatles Wig on Andy Griffith. He would have been tarred and feathered in that Southern town! This sounds like a review of the film from someone who has already seen it. Is that the case? I have to hold back my opinion of it until I see it. But what has been said about it in the trailers is very intriguing to me....
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Post by sayne on Jul 31, 2016 12:56:49 GMT -5
Has anyone here seen any trailers at the theaters you've been to recently? I've been to a couple of megaplexes and indie movie houses here in LA and have not seen any trailers.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 31, 2016 14:11:43 GMT -5
This sounds like a review of the film from someone who has already seen it. Is that the case? I have to hold back my opinion of it until I see it. But what has been said about it in the trailers is very intriguing to me.... I am just going by Ron Howards interview to ET, the three things he allegedly took away from the project. Hey, I am excited because I just watched the Japan concert MikeV posted in the "Shea Stadium" Thread and it was great fun! All four seem quite engaged(Ringo doesn't smile much but he plays well), hardly the stereotype we always get that the Beatles didn't care by 1966. It has always been written that Paul, ever the showman, was the only one who cared each night by 1966 but John looked every bit engaged both vocally and guitar. Watch him concentrate on "Yesterday" as he plays his guitar. Another myth smashed!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 31, 2016 14:16:57 GMT -5
Thanks. It didn't work for me either but I think I fixed it.
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Post by mikev on Jul 31, 2016 22:20:09 GMT -5
This sounds like a review of the film from someone who has already seen it. Is that the case? I have to hold back my opinion of it until I see it. But what has been said about it in the trailers is very intriguing to me.... I am just going by Ron Howards interview to ET, the three things he allegedly took away from the project. Hey, I am excited because I just watched the Japan concert MikeV posted in the "Shea Stadium" Thread and it was great fun! All four seem quite engaged(Ringo doesn't smile much but he plays well), hardly the stereotype we always get that the Beatles didn't care by 1966. It has always been written that Paul, ever the showman, was the only one who cared each night by 1966 but John looked every bit engaged both vocally and guitar. Watch him concentrate on "Yesterday" as he plays his guitar. Another myth smashed! I was amazed that the Beatles actually created a completely different "rock" version of Yesterday with drums, bass and electric guitars.
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 1, 2016 0:10:16 GMT -5
I am just going by Ron Howards interview to ET, the three things he allegedly took away from the project. Hey, I am excited because I just watched the Japan concert MikeV posted in the "Shea Stadium" Thread and it was great fun! All four seem quite engaged(Ringo doesn't smile much but he plays well), hardly the stereotype we always get that the Beatles didn't care by 1966. It has always been written that Paul, ever the showman, was the only one who cared each night by 1966 but John looked every bit engaged both vocally and guitar. Watch him concentrate on "Yesterday" as he plays his guitar. Another myth smashed! I was amazed that the Beatles actually created a completely different "rock" version of Yesterday with drums, bass and electric guitars. Yes and how about John's repeating the title "Paperback Writer" towards the end of the song! Maybe he does that on the studio recording as it fades out but it is not as pronounced as in that live version. And John is really giving his all on guitar throughout, whether his driving Rhythm guitar on "She's a Woman" or doing the iconic riff on "I Feel Fine." I bought the CW that John was always on autopilot during the 1966 Tour but this Tokyo concert shatters that myth!
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Post by vectisfabber on Aug 1, 2016 4:25:23 GMT -5
Has anyone here seen any trailers at the theaters you've been to recently? I've been to a couple of megaplexes and indie movie houses here in LA and have not seen any trailers. I saw the trailer last week and was underwhelmed. The sound had very little bottom to it.
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I did not say any such things! I "liked" Panther post because the video he posted made me laugh out loud! This film will be fun but an objective Beatles fan should be able to admit that The Beatles were not even close to being the best live band/artist of the 1960's! The Beatles may have been great in Hamburg and The Cavern but we will never know, the recorded evidence is inconclusive. From 1963 to 1966, The Beatles were a glorified "Boy Band" as to touring, none of the innovations of their records carried over live. Sure technology was a huge part of that but in 1965 and 1966 they couldn't be bothered. As JoeK said, other 1960's bands/artists put on amazing shows with the same crap speakers and screaming kiddies. James Brown anyone? Look at Bob Dylan, his early shows are spellbinding, the audience holding on to every word, and his Rock and Roll shows in 1965 and 1966 are historic, revolutionary! Repeat, this will be a fun movie but if it sells The Beatles as the greatest live Rock and Roll Band then it is hyperbole. Playing live was/is The Beatles Achilles' heel as to claiming to be the greatest Rock and Roll Band ever. Good thing they lead in other elements like songwriting and recordings. But you just admitted the recorded evidence is inconclusive. The fans of the time swear they were phenominal in Hamburg and The Cavern. So how do you know they were not the greatest live R&R band? I would hazard a guess their work in Hamburg would easily top Dylan in concert, or even James Brown.....They played sometimes for 8 hours straight....... I really hate to argue with and don't want to argue with other Beatles fans,but it's totally incomprehensible and unbelievable that you as a Beatles fan,on a Beatles fan site,would say the totally inaccurate things that you did,especially calling The Beatles a ''boy band''! The Beatles were *NEVER* a ''boy band''! As a poster Reverend Rock,who is a rock musician,reverend and a big Beatles fan said on a classic rock site years ago,that anyone who knows The Beatles history knows it's ludicrous to even *suggest* such a thing! And what a huge insult to their enormous talent as true singers,song writers and musicians! The Beatles were a *zillion* times more talented and cool than any stupid,uncool,untalented real boy band! The Monkees are the first true boy band because they didn't even start off as a genuine band, they were all musical but they were originally hired as actors to play members of a TV pop rock band for their TV show, they didn't start off playing together like Paul at age 15,George age 14 and John age 16 playing guitars and singing,then playing a few years later for 8 hours a night in sleazy strip clubs( and The Beatles had sex with many young women groupies,many who were teen girls and strippers) like The Beatles did in Hamburg Germany(or anywhere) for 2 years in a row,taking speed pills to stay awake to do it,and working their a*ses off playing as a real rock n roll band,and then playing successfully in the Cavern club as a real rock n roll band for years by the time they made it big. And The Beatles wrote and played a lot of great rock n roll and pop rock songs in their early days. John and Paul wrote the rock n roll song I Wanna Be Your Man write in front of Keith Richards and Mick Jagger in 1963 and they were both really impressed that they could just write a song just like that,and it inspired them to start writing their own songs and both bands became good friends from then on. And this song was one of The Rolling Stones first hits. There is just no comparison to The Monkees etc. A guy so accurately said on a message board many years ago when some idiots called them a ''boy band'' that The Beatles were *never* a boy band,not even during their 1963-1965 period. And another guy said a few years after this on another forum,when some idiot said this,that he too once thought the early Beatles were a boy band like NYSNC,or The Back Street Boys,until he got out of 7th grade. Every time some ignorant person unjustly calls them a boy band,I'm sure John Lennon's ashes must be turning with outrage.I'm sure he would go on to these sites and say I was *not* the founder and the leader of some f*king,stupid,uncool,untalented, boy band get that through your stupid f*cking heads! And younger people don't know what type of music was out in 1963,even though I wasn't born yet,I know that The Beatles early songs like She Loves You and I Want To Hold Your Hand were hard rock compared to the music out then.There was just Bobby Darin,The Four Seasons,Bobby Vinton and The Beach Boys surfing hits.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 2:52:34 GMT -5
The Beatles even in their early days were writing and playing on records as well in concerts,both love ballads,and great rocking rock n roll and pop rock songs that they both wrote and cover songs including their great rocking performances in Sweden where the audience was quiet during their performances.
They were the greatest *rock* band ever! (NEVER A G*d dam*ed stupid,uncool,untalented boy band as so many ignorant morons misperceive them as!) And I have always loved this great blues rocker by Paul,She's A Woman.
Except live there isn't the piano,blending with the great rocking guitars,Paul's great prominent booming bass,and his great rock vocal! And once again it's amazing how good they sound on such limited,primitive sound systems of the time and with no feedback monitors so they couldn't even hear themselves singing and playing,yet they still played and sang great and in sync with each other.
Here is their great April 1965 New Music Express Winner's Poll concert from April 11,1965.They won three years in a row.And notice that there are men and women of ages in the audience.
Here they performed Paul's great rocking I Saw Her Standing There in Sweden in October 1963 which The Beatles recorded in February 1963 on their first album Please Please Me which was recorded in just one day.
The Beatles performing their rocking cover of Long Tall Sally with Paul's great rocking vocal June 1964.
Here in 1964 June in Melbourne Australia they are playing John's great rock song that they had recorded in February 1964 on their first great early album A Hard Day's Night.
And here they performed Paul's very good hard rocking,especially for early 1965,I'm Down at The Ed Sulivian Theater August 14,1965 one night before their live Shea Stadium performance.
Here is their even harder rocking performance at Shea Stadium on August 15,1965 than they did on their record version of Paul's I'm Down. And they did what a great rock n roll band would do,they ended this rock n roll concert with this rocking song.
Here they performed a rocking cover of Dizzy Miss Lizzy with John's great rock vocal,at the same She Stadium concert.
And what a huge disgusting insult to all of them as very talented musicians,and to John and Paul as extremely talented song composers and great singers,and to John Lennon's memory and was never the founder and leader of some stupid,uncool,untalented boy band! And I'm certain that if John were still living he would come on youtube and other message boards and say I was *never* the founder and leader of any f*cking stupid,uncool,untalented boy band get that through your stupid f*cking heads!
If Beethoven,Mozart and Bach had screaming teenage girls in their audiences and they formed a band together they would have been a boy band too right?
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It's really amazing how good The Beatles sounded live with such limited primitive crappy sound systems of the time nobody could have sounded great on those limited,primitive,poor sound systems,it was impossible,but they were so great that they would have even sounded good playing out of of cave. There is an online interview with Roger Daltry,Roger's Journey With The Who in The Sun www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/sftw/607170/Rogers-journey-with-The-Who.html and he was asked if The Who had screaming girls at a certain point,and he said after Can't Explain they did. He said it was the screaming teenage era and every band had them on their way up. He said it was fun at first but the trouble for a performer when you are that young and inexperienced is that you start to judge your performances on the amount they scream,he said it's nonsense which is why Lennon gave up. He also said that The Who's manager turned their image overnight from scruffy rockers to Mods. When The Beatles played live in 1963,64,65 & 66 they only had 100 watt amplifiers,no feedback monitors so they couldn't hear themselves sing and play,plus the screaming crowds and that's why they gave up touring. George Harrison says in The Beatles Anthology video series,that for their August 1965 Shea Stadium concerts, special 100 watt amplifiers were made and that they went up from only 30 watts before. Given how limited and primitive the sound systems were then,it's amazing they sounded as good as they did live.But it was impossible for *anyone* to sound great on those kind of limited,primitive sound systems of the time. Former Kiss guitarist Bob Kulick who produced the heavy metal Beatles tribute album, Butchering The Beatles, said he saw The Beatles in concert in 1966 and he said he could hear parts of Baby's In Black & Paperback Writer and they sounded amazing. A guy Steve from Canada said on Artist Facts,that he saw The Beatles live in 1966 and The Stones in 1996(and the sound systems by then were a zillion times better!) and he said don't get me wrong,The Stones were great but they were no match for The Beatles and he called The Beatles The Greatest Band Of All Time. The Beatles started out playing 8 hours a night in the sleazy strip clubs of Hamburg Germany,taking speed pills to stay awake,wearing tight black leather jackets and pants,smoking and cursing on stage,and had sex with so many young women groupies including the strippers in those clubs,they were successful there. They also played successfully live in The Cavern Club for several years in the early 1960's. John and George especially hated Beatle Mania,and George says in The Anthology series, that it took a toll on their nervous systems, they had no life either trapped in hotel rooms most of the time. They wanted to be popular & successful as every band does, but they didn't want or ask for the hysteria. John says in his 1975 Tomorrow Show interview that the screaming wasn't doing the music any good,and that things would break down and nobody would know. The Beatles sound great on their live roof top January 1969 concert in The Let It Be Film, and the sound systems had improved by then,(although still very limited compared to today's) and there were no more screaming crowds. Paul was playing guitar and writing songs at 14 and he started soon after his beloved nurse and midwife mother Mary died of breast cancer, and he wrote the beautiful song Let It Be after he had a real seeming dream where he saw her alive again and she told him to just accept things as they are. He says in his authorized biography, that when he woke up he thought how great it was to see her alive again. And there is this very good article by Collin Fleming from The Atlantic, 50 Years Later: The Greatest Beatles Performance Of All Time www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/10/50-years-later-the-greatest-beatles-performance-of-all-time/280801/ Andthere used to be the full video of The Beatles February 1964 Washington Colosseum and there were over 1,000 likes and many people were saying what Frank and Jack say to this now only audio version of this concert,( many people on youtube are saying why are many of The Beatles videos gone off of youtube now and some are saying it's because of UMG_MK and I don't know what this is.) that it's amazing that with such crappy sound systems of those days and no feedback monitors so they couldn't even hear themselves singing and playing and many said they still sound so good and great and some say this Washington concert proves what a great live band they were and before they got so tired of all of the Beatlemania garbage they had to put up with all of the screaming drowning out their great music.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 2:58:33 GMT -5
Here is a very good educational you tube video by MeanMr Mayo who is a member as Joe of this very ,Abbryd site debunking this stupid,ridiculous,ludicrous myth that The Beatles were ever a boy band.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 3:01:37 GMT -5
And I have posted this below, on other sites about this new Ron Howard Beatles documentary and then I read a Beatles fan on this site,who is even one of the moderators saying this totally ignorant sh*t.
The description of Ron Howard's Beatles documentary looks like it's great,and I really truly hope that this helps debunk this extremely ignorant,ridiculous,ludicrous stupid myth that The Beatles were ever a stupid,uncool,untalented boy band! They were and still are The Greatest *rock n roll,and rock band ever*!
Oh and I hope it deals with how primitive,and limited their sound systems were in those days too,George Harrison said in the Beatles Anthology video series,that special 100 watt amplifiers were built and that they went up from the only 30 watts they had before,they also had no feedback monitors so they couldn't even hear themselves singing and playing,but amazingly they managed to play in so good and in sync with each other anyway.
And it was amazing they sounded as good as they did live,nobody could have sounded great on those poor sound systems it was impossible. But The Beatles were so great,they would have even sounded good playing out of a cave.
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Post by vectisfabber on Aug 17, 2016 3:13:15 GMT -5
Catchy title.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 3:13:47 GMT -5
Both VH1 and MTV have been using Richie Unterberger's excellent long Beatles biography as their Beatles biography they both used to not have a very good biography of The Beatles. www.allmusic.com/artist/the-beatles-mn0000754032/biographyen.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_BeatlesThe Beatles own documentary The Beatles Anthology The great 1982 Beatles documentary,The Complete Beatles And any great reputable accurate Beatles biography would debunk this ludicrous,stupid myth and I have never read or heard any serious legitimate rock or any type of music critics and writers describe them this way and for very great reasons too! The Beatles don't even ever belong in the same sentence as a boy band! And John S.Damn you have pictures of John Lennon as your avatar and as part of your membership name,what a big insult and disgrace to John Lennon's memory to say that he was the founder and leader of some stupid,uncool,untalented boy band. As a guy said many months ago on a site called The Inquistor about the true boy band One Direction, where the woman who wrote the article was ignorantly comparing them to The Beatles and even quoting Paul and Ringo about wishing them well in their success etc,he very accurately said that The Beatles weren't called or categorized as a boy band when they were active.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 3:21:27 GMT -5
Not only is this so ignorant,ridiculous,and false on a creative and musical level,but on their personal level too. I guarantee true genuine boy bands don't have groupies.
The Beatles had sex with *tons* of young women groupies,many who were just teen girls especially during their touring years of 1963-1966 ironically they did this the most during the joke fake cleaned up image Brian Epstein created for them in their early days.In reality they were like pimps playing the part of priests! It's no coincidence that in The Beatles Anthology video series that Paul,George and Ringo made,the story that is reported of The Beatles being thrown out of a US hotel in August 1965 because Paul was found in his hotel bedroom with an underage girl, that is included in the first great Beatles documentary from 1982 The Complete Beatles which none of them had any involvement making,is completely left out of The Beatles Anthology.
Paul McCartney also said in Hunter Davies 1968 first edition of the only authorized Beatles biography called,The Beatles, that he had sex at age 15 with a girl who was older and bigger than him,and most 15 year old boys weren't having sex in 1957,and he said he bragged about it to his classmates the next day and that he was the first one in his class to have sex.Paul also said in this book,that he would go into strip clubs at only 13 and he was the lad in his class that drew nude women.He also got another girl who was his girl friend,pregnant when he was 17 and she was 16,and Paul's father and her parents wanted them to get married but she had a miscarriage.
Hunter Davies says in his 1985 update of his Beatles biography, that The Beatles were no different from any other rock band when it came to groupies and he said they just had more to chose from. He said it was up to the road manager to say to these young women,you,you and you 5 minutes later which is really sexist and disgusting but it's totally typical for every rock band which is what they always were.
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From Me To You,and especially She Loves You and I Want To Hold Your Hand were praised by some music critics even from the beginning,like William Mann of The London Times in December 1963 pointed out their interesting unusual chords and arrangements and London Times music critic Richard Buckle also in late 1963 called John and Paul the greatest composers since Beethoven after they wrote the music for a play Mods and Rockers. Bob Dylan ,Roger McGuinn of The Byrds as early as 1963 and 1964 pointed out that even in early Beatles songs like She Loves You and I Want To Hold Your Hand had unusual and interesting chords and they arranged them. Here in this article about The Beatles chords,Bob Dylan is quoted saying what he thought in 1964 about The early Beatles music,he said that they were doing things nobody was doing and that their chords were outrageous,just outrageous and their harmonies made it all valid. www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/VOLUME03/Words_and_chords.shtml Here in Rolling Stone Magazine's 100 Greatest Song Writers Bob Dylan is number 1,Paul McCartney is number 2, and John Lennon is number 3, Bob Dylan is quoted about a car trip when he heard a lot of Beatles songs on the radio, he said they were doing things and that he knew they were pointing the direction where music had to go. www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-songwriters#john-lennon Roger McGuinn has said that he started to play a 12 string guitar after he saw and heard George Harrison playing in in the A Hard Day's Night movie. And John and Paul wrote one of The Rolling Stones first hits the rock n roll song, I Wanna Be Your Man in late 1963 right in front of them. And Keith Richards and Mick Jagger were impressed and said wow,how can you write a song just like that and it inspired them to start writing their own songs. John Lennon and Paul McCartney were such amazingly talented singer song writers that they were already writing hit songs for other artists as early as 1963 when their own song writing success was getting off the ground,besides The Rolling Stones,they also wrote hit songs in 1963 for Billy J.Krammer and The Dakatos,Celia Black,and Peter and Gordon etc. Paul wrote his first song at age 14 and was playing guitar,John wrote heavy deep poetry but didn't start writing songs until he met Paul and was impressed that he wrote his own songs,and he too started to write his own songs at age 16,and they wrote together and never stopped from then on. Paul wrote the very pretty song I'll Follow The Sun at only 16.Even when The Beatles first came to America in February 1964 many people said how rare it was for *adult* rock n roll bands and solo artists to write their own songs,and Paul and John were already doing this as teenagers in the mid 1950's. And even though I wasn't born yet in 1963 I know what type of music was popular on the radio,non rock n roll songs like Bobby Vinton,The Four Seasons,Bobby Darin and The Beach Boys surfing hits,The early Beatles songs like She Loves You, I Want To Hold Your Hand and I Saw Her Standing there etc were hard rock for 1963 and ahead of their time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 3:29:56 GMT -5
Also in an excellent Beatles book Ticket To Ride by Denny Somach where so many other well known popular respected rock musicians and artists are interviewed about The Beatles praising them including Jimmy Page,Brian Wilson who says he's always loved The Beatles. And Brian Wilson called John & Paul the greatest song writers of the 20th century on a 1995 Nightline Beatles tribute show,(which had on music artists from every type of music,a young black jazz musician,a middle aged black opera singer,Steve Winwood,Meatloaf,and classical violinist Isak Perleman,who said he plays his children Bach,Beethoven Mozart and The Beatles)and he played With A Little Help From My Friends on the piano and he said he just loves this song. He also said that Sgt.Pepper is the greatest album he ever heard and The All Music Guide says in their Beach Boys biography,that Brian had a nervous breakdown after he heard it. Brian also said that when he first heard The Beatles brilliant 1965 folk rock album Rubber Soul he was blown away by it.He said all of the songs flowed together and it was pop music but folk rock at the same time and he couldn't believe they did this so great,this inspired him to make Pet Sounds.
John Lodge and Justin of The Moody Blues are interviewed in this book and Bill Wyman and Ron Wood says how The Rolling Stones became good friends with The Beatles in 1963 after John and Paul wrote 1 of their first hits,the Rock n Roll song,I Wanna Be You're Man.
Ron Wood was asked what his favorite Beatles songs and he said there are so many apart from the obvious like Strawberry Fields I Want To Hold Your Hand is one he said he used to like a lot ,and he said he really loved We Can Work It Out.He also says that The Beatles used to have a radio show every Friday where they played live and spoke and he would never miss an episode. He said infact whoever has the rights to those shows should dig them up,because they are incredible.
Justin Hayward says that the album he always really loved ,and he said it was when they started experimenting with chord structures ,was A Hard Day's Night.He says they began to move away from the standard 3 chord thing and just went into more interesting structures .He said A Hard Day's Night was the album for him and their song If I Fell was the song.He said it started in a different key to how it ended up,and it's a beautifully worked out song and that there are some songs on that album that were very emotional and evocative. He said that for everybody just starting to write songs as he was,it was a real turn on and eye opener.
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I always liked She Loves You even better than I Want To Hold Your Hand although that is great too. And I always loved this very early John song written and recorded in 1962 Ask Me Why. I have always loved this great beautiful song written by John,with such typical beautiful melodies and harmonies John and Paul usually wrote,and John's usual beautiful singing voice.And this was amazingly recorded in 1962 on only two track tape! with such limited,primitive recording technology but it of course still sounds great.Except I hate mono it's limited sounding and only makes their already limited recording technology sound even more limited.I tried to find the stereo version of this song on youtube but I couldn't find it. Here university of Pennsylvania musicologist Alan W.Pollack who did an 11 year extensive analysis of every one of the 200 Beatles songs,analyzes Ask Me Why and explains that it's structurally complex. www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/amw.shtml
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 3:33:53 GMT -5
Award winning classical composer and music professor Dr.Glen Gass's Beatles course he's been teaching since 1982 and he's been teaching a course in rock music in general since then. courses.music.indiana.edu/rock/beatles.html
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 3:34:51 GMT -5
In this 2008 interview asking Keith Richards who the five greatest bands ever are besides The Rolling Stones,he said obviously he put The Beatles in there. This was 6 years of course before he ridiculously criticized The Beatles brilliant Sgt.Pepper album that The Rolling Stones tried but failed to copy and equal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 3:36:14 GMT -5
Ozzy Osbourne has been a big Beatles fan since he was an early teenager,and he picked She Loves You as one of his favorite songs for Rolling Stone Magazine's 500 Greatest songs and Sgt.Pepper is one o his favorite albums. Ozzy Osbourne has been a big Beatles fan since he was an early teenager,and he picked She Loves You as one of his favorite songs for Rolling Stone Magazine's 500 Greatest songs and Sgt.Pepper is one o his favorite albums. He says that not loving The Beatles is like not loving oxygen and he called The Beatles the greatest band to ever walk the earth. Here Ozzy Osbourne says that he doesn't anyone will ever be as great as The Beatles and he said they were all great,even George Harrison and Ringo Starr were great. Here is a video of Ozzy Osbourne meets Paul McCartney for the first time and they hug each other. Here Ozzy Osbourne says how hearing She Loves You at age 15 inspired him to go into music. www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/news/ozzy-osbourne-beatles-moved-me-30320049.html
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 3:37:32 GMT -5
The Beatles do need defending because there truly is so much ignorant,inaccurate myths about them,the most ignorant and ludicrous of all,is that they were ever a boy band and they never were not even for half of a second. Here is a review of The Beatles first album,Please Please Me by a top Epionions music reviewer Scapp70 he says they need defending and he said that he had been reading some really negative things about The Beatles in print and online,and he said it's just so wild.He said but when you're as big as The Beatles there is bound to be some negativity out there. He explains how brilliant they were,how they made an amazing amount of great albums in such a short time and why they are rightfully widely considered the best band ever. www.epinions.com/review/musc_mu-81434/2001989951/227863793284
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