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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 3:41:52 GMT -5
Not only did The Beatles give The Rolling Stones one of their first hits with their rock n roll song I Wanna Be Your Man as you know,and they wrote it right in front of them and Keith Richards and Mick Jagger were impressed and like wow how can you write a song just like that and it motivated them to start writing their own songs.
And as I already said The Rolling Stones were good friends with and fans of The Beatles.
Mick Jagger was at 4 Beatles recording sessions and Keith Richards was at 2 of them with him.Also Mick Jagger was such a big Beatles fan that in May 1967 when The Beatles were recording their song Baby You're A Rich Man he came there and stood on the sidelines to watch and listen to them recording it. His name is also on the tape box and he likely sang at the end verses.In Mark Lewishon's great detailed music diary book, The Beatles Recording Sessions there is a big black and white picture of Mick Jagger sitting in between John and Paul in the recording console room during The Beatles Revolver recording sessions too.
The Beatles remastered albums sold much more 40 years after their break up than The Rolling Stones remastered albums and they are still together! The Beatles have the best selling album of the last decade with their CD 1.And soon after thir music went on iTunes,it went to the top.
And Brian Jones played the saxaphone on the strange Beatles song, You Know My Name Look Up The Number and he and Mick Jagger's girlfriend at the time Marriane Faithful contributed sound effects on the song Yellow Submarine.
As this guy Sal66 who is also a musician and has also posted on sites debunking ignorant cr*p about The Beatles has rightfully pointed out, The Beatles wrote,played and recorded I Feel Fine (which The All Music Guide says has brilliant,active ,difficult guitar leads and riffs) in the Fall of 1964 which was the first use of feedback guitar on a pop rock record and it also had a prominent guitar riff throughout this very good song almost a year *before* The Rolling Stones's Satisfaction came out.
And on John's great Norwegian Wood recorded in the Fall of 1965,George Harrison was the first to play a sitar on a pop rock song and it was released on their great album Rubber Soul in December and then in May 1966 The Rolling Stones song Paint It Black came out with Brian Jones playing a sitar.
And in Paul McCartney's authorized biography Many Years From Now, Mick Jagger's former girlfriend singer Marianne Faithful says that she and Mick used to go over to Paul's house a lot and hang out in his music room. She said he never went to see them at their house they always went to visit him because he was Paul McCartney.She also said that Mick was intimidated by Paul but that Paul was totally oblivious to this.
Paul also says in this book that he turned Mick on to pot in his music room and he said which is funny because a lot of people would assume it was the other way around. Mick Jagger was also with The Beatles in Bangor when they got the call that Brian Epstein was found dead because he went on the train with them with his then girl friend singer Marianne Faithful to see the Maharishi to study meditation that weekend.
Also Mick Jagger is quoted on a Rolling Stones fan site,timeisonourside.com saying that Keith Richards liked The Beatles because he was quite interested in their chord sequences and he says he also liked their harmonies which he said were always a slight problem for The Rolling Stones.He said Keith always tried to get the harmonies off the ground but they always seemed messy.Mick then says,that what they never really got together were Keith and Brian singing backup vocals and he said it didn't work because Keith was a better singer and to keep going,oooh,ooh,ooh(he laughs) and he said Brian liked all of those oohs which Keith had to put up with.He also said Keith was capable of much stronger vocals than ooh,ooh,ooh.
On this same fan site Keith Richards is quoted from 1971 saying that The Beatles were perfect for opening doors,when they went to America they left it wide open for them and he said that The Rolling Stones could never have gone to America without them.He also said that The Beatles are so f**king good at what they did.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 3:45:29 GMT -5
I recently found out that The Rolling Stones wrote a song for a Rice Crispies TV commercial,not for something cool like cigarettes but for snap,crackle and pop. Maybe The Rolling Stones,who also had teen girls screaming at their early concerts were a boy band too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 3:51:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 4:16:57 GMT -5
I also met two people and know a third one who saw The Beatles in concert,one woman and one man who were my high school teachers who saw them in 1966,and the other my second cousin who saw them at the Baltimore Coliseum when she was 16 in 1964,she became a psychologist.They all told me that they were close enough to them to see and hear the The Beatles and that they were great.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 4:23:37 GMT -5
In this All Music Guide review of The Beatles late 1963 album,With The Beatles Stephen Thomas Erlewine says at the end of the very good review that still the heart of With The Beatles lies not in the covers but the originals where it was clear that even at this early stage The Beatles were rapidly maturing and changing turning into expert craftsman and musical innovators. www.allmusic.com/album/with-the-beatles-mw0000192941
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 4:24:23 GMT -5
In The All Music Guide's great review of The Beatles Past Masters album,they say they proved that they could rock really,really hard with their songs I Feel Fine,She's a Woman,and the peerless I'm Down www.allmusic.com/album/past-masters-mw0000691313 all from late 1964 and early 1965.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 4:26:09 GMT -5
As The All Music Guide says in their excellent Beatles biography "That it's difficult to summarize their career without restating cliches that have already been digested by tens of millions of rock fans, to start with the obvious,they were the greatest and most influential act of the rock era and introduced more innovations into popular music than any other rock band of the 20th century." "Moreover they were among the few artists of *any* discipline that were simultaneously the best at what they did *and* the most popular at what they did." They also say as singers John Lennon and Paul McCartney were among the best and most expressive in rock. Also on an excellent site,The Evolution of Rock Bass Playing McCartney Style by Dennnis Alstrand,Stanley Clarke,Sting,Will Lee,Billy Sheehan,George Martin and John Lennon are quoted saying what a great,melodic and influential bass player Paul has always been. abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/paulbass.htm And Wilco's John Stirratt was asked in Bass Player which bass players have had the most impact on his playing and the first thing he said was, Paul McCartney is one of the greatest bass players of all time,if you listen to what he was tracking live in the studio it's unbelievable." "With his tone and musicality he was a huge influence,he covered all of his harmonic responsibilities really well but his baselines were absolutely melodic and inventive." connection.ebscohost.com/c/articles/15716769/windy-city-wingman-john-stirratt-lays-roots-wilco In this 2010 interview the blogger says that John Stirratt has an affinity for good melodies so it's not surprising that Paul McCartney is one of his musical icons and then he quotes him saying that he's always absolutely in awe of his playing,including Paul's Beatles years. audreeanne.blogspot.com/2010/02/interview-wilcos-john-stirratt-talk.html And in an online 1977 Eric Clapton interview,Eric Clapton In His Own Words he says that there was always this game between John and George,and he said partly because John was a pretty good guitar player himself www.superseventies.com/ssericclapton.html . He played live with John as a member of John's 1969 Plastic Ono Band. And there is a great online article by musician and song writer Peter Cross,The Beatles Are The Most Creative Band Of All Time and he says that many musicians besides him recognize Paul as one of the best bass guitar players ever.He too says that John and Paul are the greatest song composers and that to say that John and Paul are among 2 of the greatest singers in rock and roll is to state the obvious,and that John,Paul and George were all excellent guitarists and that George is underrated by people not educated about music but that Eric Clapton knew better,he also says that both John and Paul played great leads as well as innovative rhythm tracks. John Lennon co-wrote,sang and played guitar on one of David Bowie's first hits Fame in 1975 and David invited John to play guitar on his version of John's beautiful Beatles song Across The Universe.Brain May,Ozzy Osbourne,and Liam Gallagher and many more call The Beatles The Greatest Band Ever.' ezinearticles.com/?The-Beatles-are-the-Most-Creative-Band-of-All-Time&id=222245 Also on MusicRadar Tom Petty,Joe Perry and Richie Sambora in What The Beatles Mean To Me all say how cool and great they thought The Beatles were when they first saw them on The Ed Sullivan Show in February 1964 when they were just teen boys,Richie was only 5.Tom Petty said he thought they were really really great. Robin Zander of Cheap Trick said he's probably one of the biggest Beatles fans on the planet.Brad Whitford of Aerosmith said that a lot of that Beatles influence comes from Steven Tyler's collaborartion with Mark Hudson both whom are absolute Beatles freaks and he said I guess the goal is to try and emulate probably some of the best music of the last 50 years which has to be The Beatles.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 4:26:44 GMT -5
In 2010 I read an online article that had an interview with Ernie Isley of The Isley Brothers about a recent tribute to Jimi Hendrix, in which he says that Jimi played for The Isley Brothers & lived with them & that they & he were fans of The Fab Four from the moment they all watched them on The Ed Sullivan Show in February 1964. I always thought that Jimi was only a later period Beatles fan,I knew he played Sgt.Pepper live the weekend it came out,& he played Day Tripper live also,& several people on different message boards said that when he was asked where the direction of music was going,he said ask The Beatles.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 4:27:29 GMT -5
This is a description of the 2009 Beatles 3 part radio special of how brilliant and influential The Beatles were from the beginning and it has interviews with Brian Wilson,Tom Petty,Dave Grohl,Slash,Jeff Lynne,Ann Wilson,Nancy Wilson,Peter Asher,Jackson Browne,Bob Seger,T-Bone Burnett,Cameron Crowe,Mika,Mark Ronson,Susan Werner,Rick Rubin,and Joe Boyd. beatlesblogger.com/2009/12/04/new-three-part-beatles-radio-series-here-there-everywhere/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 4:42:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 4:44:26 GMT -5
This 1999 review of Mark Lewisohn's excellent Beatles studio diary book where many of The Beatles recording engineers and tape operators and their producer George Martin are interviewed (and it shows how truly innovative,brilliant and creative especially John and Paul were in the recording studio),The Beatles Recording Sessions titled, Behind The Creative Genius Of A Groundbreaking Band by a musician himself says it all, he says that as a musician he found Mark Lewisohn's portrayal of The Beatles genius and in parenthesis he says, especially that of John Lennon and Paul McCartney, to be completely thorough and accurate, as well as insightful. He then says if you are to buy any one Beatles book,buy this one. www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3EHW182TIHFQ2/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1454910054 And this reviewer RAS who became a big Beatles fan after he read The Beatles Recording Sessions book,said,I think The Beatles ARE BRILLIANT and he said he despairs what his life would be like without The Beatles!! He said that when he first saw this book,he said Oh another garbage Beatles book. www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Beatles-Recording-Sessions/product-reviews/1454910054/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_paging_btm_2?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=helpful&pageNumber=2
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 5:01:25 GMT -5
Here is a really good July 1976 Rolling Stone Magazine interview with George Martin in which he's asked about George Harrison who he says is talented but John and Paul are so enormously talented that it was silly to look eslewhere.But it's obvious George Harrison was even more talented as a song writer and guitarist than most people realize because in this same interview George Martin says that he didn't give George much encouragement he just tolerated him. And of course John and Paul didn't give him much encouragement,so he did mostly everything on his own. www.rollingstone.com/music/features/george-martin-recalls-the-boys-in-the-band-19760715?page=2#comments
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 5:13:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 6:12:12 GMT -5
But yet, OTHER 1960's bands managed fine, and gave good live on-stage performances during 1963 - 1966 .. (And by all accounts, The Beatles were absolutely fantastic AND electric in the early pre-fame years of Hamburg and in The Cavern). I am sorry that Firsties who were older in the 60s (I was a Firstie, just that I was 3 - 6 when I was in love with The Beatles during 1965 - 1968) were often rendered tainted and unable to enjoy the Solo Years. I agree with you that they reportedly sounded great in the early days in the clubs. But their stadium concerts fell short because of inadequate sound systems and hysterical screaming. Not because of them. As to the solo years; there are some songs I like but once you had grown up with the band, anything less just could not match them as a whole. Hard to comprehend fans like Panther and JSD tossing off the coming film with a "Meh." And calling it shite...... Thank you,what you said about The Beatles live playing is *so true*!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 6:15:56 GMT -5
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Post by lowbasso on Aug 17, 2016 7:35:20 GMT -5
Something tells me Lucyinthesky is going to see the upcoming film more than once..... Quiz on her posts will he forthcoming......
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Post by markc on Aug 17, 2016 9:54:54 GMT -5
Very thorough, our Lucy.
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 17, 2016 16:39:35 GMT -5
Something tells me Lucyinthesky is going to see the upcoming film more than once..... Quiz on her posts will he forthcoming...... I hope it's an open book quiz. Lucy should post more and not let all this stuff bottle up until it explodes like this.
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Post by kc on Aug 19, 2016 7:52:25 GMT -5
I saw a billboard for this new Beatles' movie while driving around today.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 9:08:10 GMT -5
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Post by andyb on Sept 1, 2016 10:00:04 GMT -5
Shame. This could have been a great package for the fan but it's not looking as good as I hoped. I'm sure the film will be good but a nice little dvd package with all their live concert and live TV appearances would have been more appreciated. Even a very casual music fan would go for it.
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Post by lowbasso on Sept 1, 2016 21:27:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 21:55:37 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 22:02:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the sarcastic digs it's always great from fellow Beatles fans!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 22:04:20 GMT -5
Something tells me Lucyinthesky is going to see the upcoming film more than once..... Quiz on her posts will he forthcoming...... I hope it's an open book quiz. Lucy should post more and not let all this stuff bottle up until it explodes like this. Thanks for the sarcastic digs it's always really great from fellow Beatles fans!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 22:06:12 GMT -5
I really don't want to see this film at all now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 22:07:59 GMT -5
Thank you too for the sarcastic digs now you can all go to hell!
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Post by lowbasso on Sept 1, 2016 22:32:28 GMT -5
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Post by kc on Sept 2, 2016 7:43:11 GMT -5
Suddenly there is only one week to go.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 2, 2016 9:35:08 GMT -5
Suddenly there is only one week to go. Is that a Countdown start!?
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