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Post by sayne on Sept 7, 2008 9:54:03 GMT -5
Remember this illustration? I remember. I think I saw it in a book titled "Illustrated Lyrics", but I'm not sure. I think it was a "When I'm 64" reference. Interesting what "64" was thought to be back then. Neither Paul or Ringo or a lot of famous people now in their 60's look "old" like that. I guess "60" is the new "40". (Lucky for me --- )
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Post by winstonoboogie on Sept 7, 2008 9:56:46 GMT -5
Remember this illustration? Yes......makes me sad in retrospect But somehow I can't imagine John wearing a bow tie! ;D
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Post by sayne on Sept 7, 2008 9:59:20 GMT -5
Remember this illustration? To me, John looks like Teddy Roosevelt, Ringo like Jon Lovitz, Paul like Anthony Hopkins, and George (I don't know), maybe heading toward Vincent Price territory. Jury still out on him.
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Post by ursamajor on Sept 7, 2008 19:11:00 GMT -5
Hey sexysadie, just wondering if you are Fiona of the Quarrels from the old board. You sound like her alot. Anyway, even if you're not I like reading your posts.
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Post by oblio on Sept 8, 2008 13:39:32 GMT -5
sadie – “I won't be offended if you don't read it, sayne. I've never claimed that I couldn't benefit from a good editor. At least I'm not averaging 25 posts a day like a woman on a prior message board did.”
You really took the time to count the number of someone else’s posts? Why? What is the correct number per day? Is there a limit? Why would you even bring that up?
“Thankfully, she's not here--yet! I doubt Steve would let her get a foothold. The only reason she was able to run roughshod over that board was because the moderator didn't have the time, and necessary intelligence, to oversee her board in an effective manner.”
I was and am a reader of the board you mention. Rather insulting remarks to the moderator. I recognize you by your lectures. If I am right and you are who I am fairly certain you are, there is more to the story. Being that you are all about truth I am sure you won’t mind me mentioning it here. Weren’t you banned from that message board for continuing to verbally attack people with differing views even after being asked to stop by the moderator? When I first started reading that board you seemed to like Paul and your posts were interesting. Then something happened and you went to lectures and insulting Paul in every post. It was sad to see.
“Paul and Linda were always so relaxed and happy around each other, quick to smile and touch. A body language expert once described them as having "mutual gaze."”
I remember reading that too, but that was the so called expert using a photo of Paul and Linda 25 + years married sitting at one of Stella’s shows. There are several pictures of Paul and Nancy where they look more than comfortable together. As for pictures of Paul and Heather, well she was playing a part and I think he wanted to believe her.
“Paul prances arrogantly along the street, acting like a jerk”
Your hatred of him might make people wonder why you would take the time to read or post about him even if it is less than 25 times per day. If I disliked someone enough to write that about them I would not read about them or certainly not post about them.
Other questions: How did Linda rebel against her family’s wealth? Did she give her trust fund back? She did not. She lived off of that. It also made it possible for her to leave her first husband when he wanted to move to Africa. She certainly wasn’t living off of her wages as a receptionist. Stella also speaks of going into her mother’s closet as a kid and picking out her designer clothes. She mingled with the rich. She is no different from Nancy really, except Nancy finished college. What matters is that they seem to both be decent people. As for Linda being forced by mean old Paul to be onstage I never believed that. She was strong enough to leave her first husband because she did not want to move to Africa (later going there with Paul). What makes you think she was so weak she could not say no to him? If they ever divorced she would have made out fine as the lawyers were in her family and knew all his finances.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 8, 2008 14:20:54 GMT -5
If they ever divorced she would have made out fine as the lawyers were in her family and knew all his finances. Welcome, oblio. Because Lee Eastman and John Eastman were Paul's lawyers, they would have not wanted to touch their daughter's/sister's possible divorce case from Paul with a ten foot pole. The Eastmans would be disbarred and then sued by Paul if they used information they learned about Paul from their representation of him to help Linda in her divorce. They would have to sit that dance out. I do agree that Linda would have been steered to a good attorney but the Eastman men would have built a "firewall" between them and that divorce as big as the Great Wall of China. By the way, what Board are you and sexysadie referring to?
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Post by sexysadie on Sept 9, 2008 5:32:55 GMT -5
Steve, I have no doubt you're right about women still drooling over Paul like it's the '60's. Old habits die hard--especially if, for selfish reasons, you don't want them to. But anyone with eyes-- and a realistic perspective--can see that he's not aged well over the past ten years or so. People often comment that Ringo looks younger than his almost-70 years. On the whole, he IS aging more gracefully than Paul, but there's much more to it than physical appearance. Yeah, the peace and love schtick does get annoying, but there are no trophy wives, no new bambinos. And his tours are admirably more self-effacing than Paul's, which suggests that he's comfortable with who he is, and where he is, in life. Paul seems insecure, and even a little desperate about geting older, by comparison. In my defense, I'm only commenting on Paul's appearance to ask if a woman twenty years younger would be attracted to him if he weren't HIM. It's a legitimate question. Have you ever seen Katie Lee Joel? She's pretty, very young, early-to-mid twenties, I think. More than three decades younger--and almost a foot taller--than Billy, who looks like he spent his youth in a boxing ring. Oh, wait, he DID. Something else he did was give her a $16 million mansion in the Hamptons. Hmmm. Then there is Rod Stewart's also-taller trophy wife. The two of them and their toddler son looked quite comfy lounging around on the yacht in one British magazine. Rod, who actually had the chutzpah to pose the musical question, "Do You Think I'm Sexy?" You know what they say, Rod...if you have to ASK... And Phil Collins just divorced his third, and much-younger, wife, who took him for $10 million more than Heather weaselled out of Paul. Now, this one I totally get. Ohmigod, Phil is so hawt. Harvey Weinstein, megabucks entertainment producer extraodinaire, and his gorgeous, much-younger fashion designer wife, is one of my all-time favorites. Along with Sumner Redstone, the head of Viacom, and his 40-years-younger wife. Seriously, have you SEEN these guys? And is anyone familiar with the YouTube divorcee, who married a balding, paunchy Broadway producer 25 years her senior and videoed her grievances for the world to see, including the finer details of their sexless marriage, when he tried to throw her out of their ritzy NYC apartment? I saw her on TV peddling the idea that she married for love. Heather was selling that fiction, too. But of course. They ALL do it for love. The British tabloids are once again full of tales of Heather's antics and machinations, although with previously unseen embellishment and detail. It is so outrageous, and she is so despicable, that you have to ask yourself if 40+ years of fun with marijuana have left Paul with no functioning brain cells whatsover. She didn't suddenly morph into a lying, scheming bitch the minute the ring was on her finger. Still, I do feel sad for him--he tragically lost his soulmate, and will spend the rest of his life trying to replace her, probably unsuccessfully. Definitely unsuccessfully if he keeps chasing after the young ones. While some of these women may be more benign than others, they are all calculating, sizing up how the relationship is of benefit to them. Nancy is no different just because she has money--in fact, in some ways, that makes her more worrisome. These are not relationships rooted in initial physical attraction that deepens into love. All of these gals know from the get-go that their targets are wealthy and/or famous. Common sense dictates that they never would have given these old farts the time of day if they were nobodies with nine-to-fives, mortgages, and used Hondas (which is not to say that Honda doesn't make a fine product--we have one with 325,000 miles on it.) The men may be egotistical and clueless, even willfully stupid, like Paul was with Heather. But the women...honestly, I'm ashamed to share a gender with them. Sir Frankie Crisp Sept 1, 2008, 8:02am
Constipated thinking. This is a discussion board, Einstein. Let me guess--you go to church to express your displeasure with people who pray TOO much. Don't be dissing women for getting chatty. It's just the way we're wired. And I'm unaware of any reading requirement here. Also, it's not nice to rag on Keef. Let's face it, he was never a hunka burning love. A doctor who studies human longevity said he should have been dead ten years ago--and that was before he fell out of a tree and cracked his head open. So credit where credit is due. When he shuffles off (IF he shuffles off?), his body should be donated to science.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Sept 9, 2008 8:24:52 GMT -5
Steve, I have no doubt you're right about women still drooling over Paul like it's the '60's. Old habits die hard--especially if, for selfish reasons, you don't want them to. But anyone with eyes-- and a realistic perspective--can see that he's not aged well over the past ten years or so. It's funny how some of the comments on those lists go, even getting into body parts. (Seriously ...) I just kind of smile and pass it by. I'm often tempted to think the All-Starr Band thing is the best he can do, but yeah, the perspective that he is very comfortable with who he is would seem to be the case. The peace and love thing, which does grate a little, is a good indication of that. But being comfortable in his case also means you don't seem to try too hard, and I think that can be said for Ringo, as well. Otherwise, his studio albums would be better. And Paul's, as weak as they have been, at least have gone to new places. Ringo's sure haven't.
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Post by scousette on Sept 10, 2008 16:03:06 GMT -5
For another female point of view:
Paul looks pretty good for 66. He's still kinda cute, if you ask me. I would go on a date with him.
Billy Joel is totally unattractive. I never thought he was good looking.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 10, 2008 17:06:54 GMT -5
For another female point of view: Paul looks pretty good for 66. He's still kinda cute, if you ask me. I would go on a date with him. Billy Joel is totally unattractive. I never thought he was good looking. Out of mere curiosity, what do you think of John Oates in terms of his looks, you know, the short, dark, perky one from Hall & Oates?
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Post by scousette on Sept 10, 2008 17:42:04 GMT -5
For another female point of view: Paul looks pretty good for 66. He's still kinda cute, if you ask me. I would go on a date with him. Billy Joel is totally unattractive. I never thought he was good looking. Out of mere curiosity, what do you think of John Oates in terms of his looks, you know, the short, dark, perky one from Hall & Oates? John Oates is cute. One of my friends (female) thinks he's hot. I like Daryl Hall more, though.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 10, 2008 18:17:13 GMT -5
Out of mere curiosity, what do you think of John Oates in terms of his looks, you know, the short, dark, perky one from Hall & Oates? John Oates is cute. Cool.
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Post by mikev on Sept 10, 2008 20:49:25 GMT -5
John Oates is babbabooie.
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Post by richforman on Sept 11, 2008 9:47:45 GMT -5
It seems to me that unlike most men, many women become attracted to and interested in men not solely or even primarily based on looks, can be attracted to them based on a range of things including money and fame, but also sometimes musical talent, status, creativity, an assured, confident personality. Maybe some of the beautiful somewhat-younger women who McCartney has dated in the last year and a half wouldn't have been interested him based purely on looks (although wow some people are pretty harsh judges, seems to me he's in DAMN fine trim for 66 with an extraordinary amount of energy, enthusiasm and spirit) if he wasn't Paul McCartney...but he is!
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Post by JMG on Sept 11, 2008 17:30:47 GMT -5
It seems to me that unlike most men, many women become attracted to and interested in men not solely or even primarily based on looks, can be attracted to them based on a range of things including money and fame, but also sometimes musical talent, status, creativity, an assured, confident personality. Maybe some of the beautiful somewhat-younger women who McCartney has dated in the last year and a half wouldn't have been interested him based purely on looks (although wow some people are pretty harsh judges, seems to me he's in DAMN fine trim for 66 with an extraordinary amount of energy, enthusiasm and spirit) if he wasn't Paul McCartney...but he is! Trust me, richforman. It's ALL about the money. Women are drawn to money like a moth to a flame! When's the last time you saw a good looking homeless guy hanging out with a hot looking chick? There ya go.
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Post by scousette on Sept 11, 2008 18:42:33 GMT -5
John Oates is babbabooie. Best Hall & Oates album cover ever:
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Post by gottafeelin on Sept 12, 2008 9:49:58 GMT -5
John Oates is babbabooie. Best Hall & Oates album cover ever: Whose the hot chick with John Oats? Isn't she in Hansen?
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Post by mikev on Sept 12, 2008 10:05:03 GMT -5
LOL
John Oates looks more like Babba Wawa than babbabouie in this glam photo.
For those of you who don't know, "babbabooie" is a Howard Stern's side guy.
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Post by ChuckE on Sept 12, 2008 11:13:00 GMT -5
Wow, John Oates appears to have almost as much rouge on his cheek as Adam Ant liked to wear! (And you're right, g-man, Daryl Hall DOES have that Farrah Fawcett thing going, doesn't she-- I mean, HE?) That H&O cover isn't quite as homoerotic as the one on this webpage (for H2O), though. i185.photobucket.com/albums/x290/ChuckE64/Hall--Oates-H2O-314658.jpg
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Post by scousette on Sept 12, 2008 11:13:25 GMT -5
Baba Booie rocks!
I don't have Sirius and I miss Howard.
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Post by mikev on Sept 12, 2008 11:25:47 GMT -5
Howard was much funnier in his earlier WNBC and KRock days-in my opinion. He used to do great TV parody skits with Billy West (the voice of Stimpy), such as Mayberry: KKK, Popeye on crack, and Larry Fine's Woodstock moments (picture the Three Stooges meet Cheech and Chong).
I know we are getting off the subject, but this was quite the tangential thread anyway.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 12, 2008 11:39:59 GMT -5
Baba Booie rocks! I don't have Sirius and I miss Howard. I would not have guessed that you listened to Stern based on posting with you on Steve's Board(s) all of these years. I like Howard in small to medium doses. I think that if he stays away from the over-the-top sex questions(i.e., asking Ringo intimate questions about Barbara) or blatantly baiting questions(i.e., Paul as to Yoko), he does great rock interviews. He knows the subjects.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Sept 12, 2008 11:53:30 GMT -5
Baba Booie rocks! I don't have Sirius and I miss Howard. I would not have guessed that you listened to Stern based on posting with you on Steve's Board(s) all of these years. I like Howard in small to medium doses. I think that if he stays away from the over-the-top sex questions(i.e., asking Ringo intimate questions about Barbara) or blatantly baiting questions(i.e., Paul as to Yoko), he does great rock interviews. He knows the subjects. Agreed. The guy is very smart. He just doesn't show it, which is why I rarely listened to him before he went to Sirius and not at all now.
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Post by mikev on Sept 12, 2008 13:59:24 GMT -5
Personally, I haven't listened in (Stern) for years, but back when - there was some very funny stuff.
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Post by JMG on Sept 12, 2008 15:24:19 GMT -5
Baba Booie rocks! I don't have Sirius and I miss Howard. I miss Howard on regular cable TV too, scousette. I used to watch him at 11 PM weekday nights and on Sunday nights. I also miss 'the angry drunken dwarf,' that guy really cracked me up. He'd come on the show in the AM stewed to the gills, drinking vodka. I understand he passed away a few years ago. Rest in peace 'angry drunken dwarf.'
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Post by winstonoboogie on Sept 12, 2008 18:22:01 GMT -5
Baba Booie rocks! I don't have Sirius and I miss Howard. I would not have guessed that you listened to Stern based on posting with you on Steve's Board(s) all of these years. . I'm not. I knew she already liked "Animal House" and the 3 Stooges, so Howard isn't much more of a stretch.
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Post by sexysadie on Sept 15, 2008 5:40:41 GMT -5
Not homeless, but does bear a striking resemblance to some of the down-on-their-luck types I've seen in NYC. I guess she's attracted to his rugged good lucks. Emphasis on rugged.www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/61297/Mick-still-the-ladies-man-I've certainly seen worse looking 66-year-old men than Paul. To most women in their 60's, he probably would be attractive. Can't say for sure--I'm may be a first-gen fan, but I'm not THAT old. But to a women decades younger, who has men her own age to choose from? That immediately sets off warning bells for me. Steve, I'd have to say that's why I was suspicious about Heather from the start. She dumped her fiance a mere matter of days before their wedding, once she realized Paul was interested in her. Nancy was a married, albeit separated, woman, who had shown no particular interest in divorcing her husband--until Paul showed an interest in HER. I don't see a whole lot of difference. Both women calculating their next move, if you ask me. BTW, I saw a picture of Paul's daughter Mary in the London Times yesterday. She and Nancy look like they could be sisters. Evidently I'm not the first person to notice the similarities in their appearance. A bit of an "ewwww" factor there. Neither Hall nor Oates ever did it for me. But maybe if there was some expansive discussion of "body parts" (?!), I could be persuaded to change my mind.
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Post by sallyg on Sept 17, 2008 14:43:47 GMT -5
Nancy was a married, albeit separated, woman, who had shown no particular interest in divorcing her husband--until Paul showed an interest in HER. I don't see a whole lot of difference. Both women calculating their next move, if you ask me.
BTW, I saw a picture of Paul's daughter Mary in the London Times yesterday. She and Nancy look like they could be sisters. Evidently I'm not the first person to notice the similarities in their appearance. A bit of an "ewwww" factor there.
Good point in regards to Nancy be legally seperated for a while and not taking action on finalizing the divorce until she became involved with Paul. Nancy attended Mary's photography exhibit this week. It would be interesting to see a picture of Nancy and Mary standing side by side. Nancy looks like she could be Mary's twin sister.
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Post by ChokingSmoker on Sept 17, 2008 18:22:14 GMT -5
Baba Booie rocks! I don't have Sirius and I miss Howard. I like Howard in small to medium doses. I think that if he stays away from the over-the-top sex questions(i.e., asking Ringo intimate questions about Barbara) or blatantly baiting questions(i.e., Paul as to Yoko), he does great rock interviews. He knows the subjects. Just curious here JSD to your hopeful response on this one. I've always wondered if John had lived and made his way to Howard's show, how do you think the Howard and the John interaction have gone? Stern is a huge John fan. Would he have left the over-the-top sex questions alone, or just go full bore ahead and throw caution to the wind and risk John's ire?
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 17, 2008 23:38:40 GMT -5
I like Howard in small to medium doses. I think that if he stays away from the over-the-top sex questions(i.e., asking Ringo intimate questions about Barbara) or blatantly baiting questions(i.e., Paul as to Yoko), he does great rock interviews. He knows the subjects. Just curious here JSD to your hopeful response on this one. I've always wondered if John had lived and made his way to Howard's show, how do you think the Howard and the John interaction have gone? Stern is a huge John fan. Would he have left the over-the-top sex questions alone, or just go full bore ahead and throw caution to the wind and risk John's ire? That is an interesting question and just one more reason to curse the son-of-a-bitch who killed John for depriving the world of yet another John Lennon possibility(I realize we lost a whole lot more by John's murder than a Stern interview of him but it might have been fun). A Lennon-Stern encounter would probably have been quite entertaining if both men worked hard not to let it explode after 30 seconds. Stern has been very critical of Yoko from what I have heard on the air and read in his first two books. Yet he is blowing Yoko crap from the safety of John's absence. My take is that Stern would have been on his best behavior with John as to Yoko but certainly trying to get John to expand and go into detail on the groupie stories from The Beatles' touring days that John first mentioned in the "Lennon Remembers" RS interview. Howard would ask John about Beatles' penis sizes, the wildest sexual things that John had ever done(focusing on John's being with multiple women, or "every man's fantasy"as Howard likes to say) and every other kinky thing John had ever done pre-Yoko. Stern being Stern, I guarantee that he couldn't resist reminding John that he, John, could be with any woman in the world so why did he pick Yoko? John would keep his cool and remind Howard that Yoko was beautiful and that she challenged him intellectually. Howard would probably stop there and not push that issue any farther. Howard would make the obligatory remark about Oriental women and something to do with sex but John might laugh and say it was true. I think in all seriousness though that Stern would be the only interviewer in the world who could have combined bawdy humor with a solid knowledge of the facts and gotten John to open up a bit more about the whole alleged Brian Epstein sexual thing. I could just hear Stern saying, "Come on John, what's a [insert here slang phrase for sex act of your choice] between friends, it's no big deal, what really went on in Spain?" Of course Robin and the gang would be freaking out at Howard asking John Lennon this. Stern's approach might have actually caused John to open up one way or the other. On the other hand, John might have chickened out and never even made it to Stern's studio or Yoko might have advised that the stars were all wrong. I'd like to think that it would be a bawdy, witty exchange between two rather brilliant but eccentric men trying to one-up each other!
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