|
Post by mikev on Aug 7, 2008 11:25:00 GMT -5
Now that the WORLD knows that Paul is driving a Ford Bronco across America, will groupies start to trail him like the joggers did with Forest Gump?
The guys in the posted photo in Illinois look like the frat boys in the camper that picked up Borat.
I bet he has already detoured.
|
|
|
Post by John S. Damm on Aug 7, 2008 20:26:39 GMT -5
Now that the WORLD knows that Paul is driving a Ford Bronco across America, will groupies start to trail him like the joggers did with Forest Gump? The guys in the posted photo in Illinois look like the frat boys in the camper that picked up Borat. I bet he has already detoured. LOL! You can't judge a book by its cover but those dudes posing with Paul didn't look like Paul fans: Limp Bizkit yes, Korn yes, Beatles and Wings no. And not to be critical of Paul(Mr. Chokingsmoker has been critical of Paul for all of us), but driving across the U.S. in a 1989 Bronco is totally eco-unfriendly. I suspect Nancy is texting her girlfriends ever night bitching about their vehicle but being reassured to do whatever it takes to snag an ex-Beatle.
|
|
|
Post by sayne on Aug 8, 2008 9:18:27 GMT -5
. . . but driving across the U.S. in a 1989 Bronco is totally eco-unfriendly. It is if their tires are properly inflated! ;D ;D ;D
|
|
|
Post by sayne on Aug 8, 2008 9:24:11 GMT -5
. . . will groupies start to trail him like the joggers did with Forest Gump? Quick story. Some of you may remember me writing about a road trip I took last summer. During one part I drove on the road in the desert where Forest Gump ran, stopped, and turned around. Well, when we were there, the sky opened up and the temperature dropped from 108 to 58 - in 3 MINUTES!
|
|
|
Post by ReturnToPepperland on Aug 8, 2008 10:30:12 GMT -5
I heard it referred to as a "vintage" 1989 Bronco. Remember any restored vehicle over 25 years old can be considered a historic item. I don't think they got it off the junk lot. As a restored vehicle under the law emission standards would have to be updated. A properly restored vehicle must meet modern emissions standards to be road worthy.
|
|
|
Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 8, 2008 11:31:17 GMT -5
Now that the WORLD knows that Paul is driving a Ford Bronco across America, will groupies start to trail him like the joggers did with Forest Gump? The guys in the posted photo in Illinois look like the frat boys in the camper that picked up Borat. I bet he has already detoured. LOL! You can't judge a book by its cover but those dudes posing with Paul didn't look like Paul fans: Limp Bizkit yes, Korn yes, Beatles and Wings no. And not to be critical of Paul(Mr. Chokingsmoker has been critical of Paul for all of us), but driving across the U.S. in a 1989 Bronco is totally eco-unfriendly. I suspect Nancy is texting her girlfriends ever night bitching about their vehicle but being reassured to do whatever it takes to snag an ex-Beatle. I love that scenario ... Nancy texting her girlfriends...
|
|
|
Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 8, 2008 11:32:02 GMT -5
|
|
JCV
Very Clean
Posts: 545
|
Post by JCV on Aug 8, 2008 11:56:41 GMT -5
Is he going to drive back across the country after they get to CA? If so, perhaps I'll run into him! JCV
|
|
|
Post by marcm1441 on Aug 8, 2008 13:15:06 GMT -5
Paul is trying to re-live the "drives to nowhere" he would take with Linda......Thats pretty sad
|
|
|
Post by jimc on Aug 8, 2008 17:04:35 GMT -5
Paul is trying to re-live the "drives to nowhere" he would take with Linda......Thats pretty sad Oh, that's what he's doing. I'm glad you cleared it up.
|
|
|
Post by sexysadie on Aug 8, 2008 18:17:02 GMT -5
As someone observed--with more than a little snark--it's positively inspiring to see a couple of billionaires tooling across the country in an old Ford. Of course, only two billionaires could afford to drive 6,000 miles in a vehicle that gets 13 mpg. Or perhaps they are only driving one way, and flying the Bronco back by private jet? I'm sure Nancy is on a tight schedule. She's going to need some serious spa treatments back in the Hamptons after roughing it out there on ol' Route 66. The things a gal has to do to snare a rock legend these days. Why, it's almost like work.
But then calling ahead for a special menu and closed-off areas in restaurants ain't exactly "roughing it." There's only one thing more perversely entertaining than watching the obscenely wealthy trying to act like they're ordinary folks. I just can't remember what it is at the moment.
|
|
|
Post by sayne on Aug 8, 2008 18:57:47 GMT -5
. . . There's only one thing more perversely entertaining than watching the obscenely wealthy trying to act like they're ordinary folks. I just can't remember what it is at the moment. Boy, some people can't win for losing. If he jets, we talk about the largesse of wealth and the carbon footprint. If he drives, he's slumming it and trying to be like the hoi polloi. If he calls ahead and asks for a private room or asks not to be bothered, he's stuck up. If he takes his photos with yahoos, he's trying to convince us he's just one of the guys. Wealth is cool, but fame is another thing.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2008 19:28:05 GMT -5
What's Nancy's background to be classed as wealthy,i don't know anything about her other than she's doing "things" with Paul.In fact when they are having a " roll in the hay "i wonder if he tries out a few techniques he learnt off the very experienced mucca......... ;D ;D
Is Paul singing...I get my kicks........on Route 66
|
|
|
Post by sayne on Aug 8, 2008 20:44:15 GMT -5
Hey, Paul. I don't think this is what we were thinking about as your last tour of America ;D
|
|
JMG
Very Clean
Posts: 412
|
Post by JMG on Aug 9, 2008 0:29:29 GMT -5
Is Paul singing...I get my kicks........on Route 66 Nat King Cole's version of '(Get Your Kicks On) Route 66' is nothing short of outstanding, IMO. Great song!
|
|
|
Post by vectisfabber on Aug 9, 2008 5:49:03 GMT -5
i wonder if he tries out a few techniques he learnt off the very experienced mucca......... I doubt there was very much she could teach him. I suspect he'd been around the block a few times before he ever met Linda...
|
|
|
Post by sayne on Aug 9, 2008 11:16:22 GMT -5
. . . suspect he'd been around the block a few times before he ever met Linda... Only "suspect"? Apparently, our lads were quite the randy ones. They not only went around the block, they owned it.
|
|
|
Post by jimc on Aug 9, 2008 14:15:08 GMT -5
. . . There's only one thing more perversely entertaining than watching the obscenely wealthy trying to act like they're ordinary folks. I just can't remember what it is at the moment. Boy, some people can't win for losing. If he jets, we talk about the largesse of wealth and the carbon footprint. If he drives, he's slumming it and trying to be like the hoi polloi. If he calls ahead and asks for a private room or asks not to be bothered, he's stuck up. If he takes his photos with yahoos, he's trying to convince us he's just one of the guys. Wealth is cool, but fame is another thing. Well said, Sayne. And to think, these are some of his "fans," one would assume.
|
|
|
Post by ChokingSmoker on Aug 9, 2008 14:22:58 GMT -5
Now that the WORLD knows that Paul is driving a Ford Bronco across America, will groupies start to trail him like the joggers did with Forest Gump? The guys in the posted photo in Illinois look like the frat boys in the camper that picked up Borat. I bet he has already detoured. And not to be critical of Paul(Mr. Chokingsmoker has been critical of Paul for all of us), but driving across the U.S. in a 1989 Bronco is totally eco-unfriendly. I suspect Nancy is texting her girlfriends ever night bitching about their vehicle but being reassured to do whatever it takes to snag an ex-Beatle. Yes, I am critical of Paul when it is warranted. As far as what he drives and does these days, I don't really care. As for his solo work, have not bought anything he has done post 70's. He should have stayed a Beatle.
|
|
|
Post by sexysadie on Aug 11, 2008 0:36:52 GMT -5
Posted by jimc on Yesterday at 2:15pm
Ah, yes, the fan as braindead idol worshipper. I am well-acquainted--I just have no patience for it, because it sets the standard for "fandom" somewhere waaaay out in Delusionville. So, if I call Paul out for some reason, I'm not a fan? Sorry, the true fans are the ones who recognize both the positive and the negative, and stick around anyway. It's easy to love perfection.
Nancy Shevell has never had to worry for a single second of her life about missing a bill payment. Or had to fear finding a pink slip on her desk from daddy dearest. People who know her describe her as pampered and entitled, and a report in one of the NY papers about her using her MTA "official business" parking pass to run personal errands around the city bears that out. She has a tony condo on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, and a waterfront mansion in the Hamptons. Last time I bothered to count, Paul himself owns eight properties on two continents. He has whisked Nancy away on private jets (but all you little guys, give up meat to save the planet) for at least three very exclusive holidays since late last year, including a week in the Caribbean where they stayed in a villa that cost $12,000/night. And I'm supposed to buy the idea that they are just like the rest of us because they are bopping around the country in an old Ford? Well, that 84 grand for vacation accommodations would have put a sizeable dent in my daughter's student loan debt, which she'll be paying off until she's 40--or longer. And the money they are spending on fancy suites in the best hotels during the big Route 66 trek would have helped, too. No, sir, no Bates Motels for these two lovebirds. You will never convince me that a 47-year-old heiress like Nancy would have the slightest bit of interest in an "old man with dyed hair wearing a beaded Indian belt and hitched-too-high trousers" if that man weren't Paul McCartney. This little trip was all about her being the center of Paul's universe by getting him away from Bea for an extended period of time, and immersing him in her company to plant the idea that he simply can't live without her. Credit where credit is due, by all accounts, it's working like a charm. The needy bastard is besotted--it's Heather redux. But Nancy must be dying out there in flyover country with all those bitter Americans who cling to their guns and their religion, and I can't help being amused. Not to worry--soon enough the two of them will be sipping Margheritas back in the Hamptons, and cavorting in the south of France. And once the ring is on her finger, you can bet there won't be any more "romantic" cross-country journeys in the ol' Bronco.
It IS all a perversely entertaining show, and well deserving of ridicule. If we can't make fun of the hypocrisy of the filthy rich, what can we make fun of?
|
|
|
Post by jimc on Aug 11, 2008 1:00:58 GMT -5
Posted by jimc on Yesterday at 2:15pm Ah, yes, the fan as braindead idol worshipper. And I'm supposed to buy the idea that they are just like the rest of us because they are bopping around the country in an old Ford? Who said they're just like the rest of us? Or trying to be? Who said they're anything but themselves? From your rant, it's apparent that these two can't do anything right -- in France, the Hamptons, in the Midwest, in the Southwest...who's braindead? Nope, there's no one bitter out here...
|
|
|
Post by John S. Damm on Aug 11, 2008 8:27:14 GMT -5
Paul is leaking out, or letting leak out, enough information about this little old road trip so us fans, or should I say admirers, can feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that Paul and Nancy are just like us and they are soooo together. Paul is manipulating us once again as to his relationships as has happened since Jane Asher on up. It wasn't so long ago that Paul was so smitten with Heather, forcing her upon us through his public appearances with her on Larry King and political events; in his music("Heather"); and the whole 2002 tour. I think that Paul has a need to demonstrate to us how wonderful his women are to help convince himself. Paul is setting us up for his sure marriage to this Nancy. This marriage will fail too, mark my words. And Nancy would be much more trouble to Paul than Heather ever was in a potential divorce. Nancy apparently comes from money(maybe even mob money) and seems to be much more intelligent than Heather(at least not crazy) so she will be vicious but smart in a divorce, having her own assets to retain the best divorce attorneys in the world as she goes after Paul's fortune. People with money want more money and I agree that Nancy has spotted a sucker, someone whose wealth and prestige as one of the songwriting, lead singing Beatles could open up doors to her that even her dirty trucking money cannot. Paul is repeating the Heather mistake to a "t" but with a much more formidable opponent. This one could get really ugly if, God forbid, Paul loses the P.R. war. It was a no-brainer who the press and public would side with as to Heather but their tolerance and goodwill towards Paul will evaporate with a second marriage and subsequent divorce to another woman his daughter's age and who even looks like Mary McCartney.
|
|
|
Post by hotassun on Aug 11, 2008 8:38:46 GMT -5
You're a strange, little man.
|
|
|
Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 11, 2008 10:36:51 GMT -5
Paul is leaking out, or letting leak out, enough information about this little old road trip so us fans, or should I say admirers, can feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that Paul and Nancy are just like us and they are soooo together. Paul is manipulating us once again as to his relationships as has happened since Jane Asher on up. It wasn't so long ago that Paul was so smitten with Heather, forcing her upon us through his public appearances with her on Larry King and political events; in his music("Heather"); and the whole 2002 tour. I think that Paul has a need to demonstrate to us how wonderful his women are to help convince himself. Paul is setting us up for his sure marriage to this Nancy. This marriage will fail too, mark my words. And Nancy would be much more trouble to Paul than Heather ever was in a potential divorce. Nancy apparently comes from money(maybe even mob money) and seems to be much more intelligent than Heather(at least not crazy) so she will be vicious but smart in a divorce, having her own assets to retain the best divorce attorneys in the world as she goes after Paul's fortune. People with money want more money and I agree that Nancy has spotted a sucker, someone whose wealth and prestige as one of the songwriting, lead singing Beatles could open up doors to her that even her dirty trucking money cannot. Paul is repeating the Heather mistake to a "t" but with a much more formidable opponent. This one could get really ugly if, God forbid, Paul loses the P.R. war. It was a no-brainer who the press and public would side with as to Heather but their tolerance and goodwill towards Paul will evaporate with a second marriage and subsequent divorce to another woman his daughter's age and who even looks like Mary McCartney. I agree about Paul's warm and fuzzy attitude and agree this trip has a lot to go along with that. However, I'm discounting a lot of the speculation about him and Nancy getting married. I really can't imagine he's that dumb.
|
|
|
Post by sayne on Aug 11, 2008 10:45:59 GMT -5
Posted by jimc on Yesterday at 2:15pm I know from where this is coming. There's a lot out there on which to comment. I've been part of it. If one looks at the history of this board, I have never been a Paul apologist. I'm a socialist at heart, but do not begrudge someone's wealth. I guess one would say I'm into some form of socialized Capitalism. The point I'm going to make is that being rich is NOT a bad thing if one attains their wealth through means that do the least amount of harm to people, places, and things; if one is powerfully aware who has helped in the accumulation of said wealth; and one pays back. I do not begrudge any rich person enjoying their wealth, if there is evidence that they do good works with their wealth, as well. Paul has been historically very generous with his money and his time. Whether one agrees with his politics or not, one cannot deny he is a giver. Doubt his motivations? Well, that is on the doubter, not him. The bottom line is that he has given more than his 10% . It is easy to find inconsistencies and seemingly "hypocritical" actions by people. How many of us are watching the Olympics, despite it being held in China? By watching the Olympics, we are patronizing a network (NBC) and it's sponsors (GM, Coke, etc) who are helping a regime cover up it's human rights violations. How about those people who are now vacationing there? Why would people who would not cross a picket line go to China? I wouldn't go to China, but I understand why people would want to go. I get it. Why can't a supporter of public education not send a child to a private school? I get it. And, why can't a guy worth millions "slum" it in a jalopy? It's not like he's trampling over a nature reserve. "Easy to love perfection"? Yes. It's even easier to "cast stones." I've gone off on Paul for a number of things. But, on this road trip - I'll give him a pass. Sounds like fun!
|
|
|
Post by joeyself on Aug 11, 2008 10:47:55 GMT -5
I don't see what's wrong with a guy that is famous doing what those of us that aren't do--go on a driving vacation. My *only* issue with this trip is if Paul has made some public pronouncements conflicting with what he is doing--driving a vehicle that isn't known to be great on gas mileage.
And since I don't really care what a celeb has to say on an issue that is not related to his area of competence and renoun--in McCartney's case, that'd be music--I don't have a clue if he's behaving hypocritically.
JcS
|
|
|
Post by sayne on Aug 11, 2008 10:49:43 GMT -5
. . . I'm discounting a lot of the speculation about him and Nancy getting married. I really can't imagine he's that dumb. I don't know if getting married would be dumb, but again NOT having a pre-nup REALLY would be.
|
|
|
Post by joeyself on Aug 11, 2008 10:54:04 GMT -5
. . . I'm discounting a lot of the speculation about him and Nancy getting married. I really can't imagine he's that dumb. I don't know if getting married would be dumb, but again NOT having a pre-nup REALLY would be. Since I limit the areas where I commit malpractice to states where I am licensed or admitted for special reasons, I can't say for sure, but my recollection is that a pre-nup in the UK wasn't going to have the same effect as one in many states in the USA. JcS
|
|
|
Post by jimc on Aug 11, 2008 11:19:28 GMT -5
Paul is leaking out, or letting leak out, enough information about this little old road trip so us fans, or should I say admirers, can feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that Paul and Nancy are just like us and they are soooo together. This business about "leaks" -- I just don't see the evidence for it. I read the original Chicago Tribune column, and it seems he was more of an apparition there than the real deal. It was an open question as of Monday or Tuesday if it was really him. In fact, I emailed Steve with the belief that it probably wasn't. Then the Springfield gas station visit: that was random (and just 45 minutes from where I sit!). You don't think he arranged that encounter with the guys who were headed to a St. Louis Cardinal game? Sure, he allowed his picture to be taken there (but not at the museum earlier in the day), but if we were receiving reports that he was avoiding "the average person," and being nasty about a cell phone picture or too, I can only imagine how that would play here. As for being "manipulated," it takes two, or one and a million on the other side. I would not know Nancy if she was up the street at the local IGA. It seems that a person would have to actively seek out this information. I don't have a big concern about his romantic life. It's his life.
|
|
|
Post by John S. Damm on Aug 11, 2008 12:02:33 GMT -5
You're a strange, little man. Welcome to the conversation but why I am getting the feeling of deja vu from your second post? Then the Springfield gas station visit: that was random (and just 45 minutes from where I sit!). You don't think he arranged that encounter with the guys who were headed to a St. Louis Cardinal game? Sure, he allowed his picture to be taken there (but not at the museum earlier in the day), but if we were receiving reports that he was avoiding "the average person," and being nasty about a cell phone picture or too, I can only imagine how that would play here. Jim, I think Paul is being very selective as to where he allows fan photos to be taken and I think he is very well manipulating the press he is getting. Pictures of Paul and the Cardinal fan guys at gas station: yes. Picture of Paul with father and cute little boy also at a gas station: yes. Picture of Paul at fancy restaurants, hotels, spas, etc.: no. I don't mean while he is eating or knocking on his Suite door, I mean as he is coming and going. For every happy fan, there has been disappointed ones it seems from these blogs. To me it is projecting Paul as the common man or "average person." My real problem is not his money or fan photos or lack thereof or what he drives but how quickly he wants to jump back into the fire with this Nancy who is again much too young for me to think that her attraction to Paul is for anything other than his money or fame(probably both).
|
|