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Post by Panther on Jul 28, 2012 11:18:53 GMT -5
It makes No. 1 of all time but couldn't make No. 1 in one week in 1965? Yes, clearly it isn't up there with Gilbert O'Sullivan, Milli Vanilli, and Boyzone in RTP's world.
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Post by Panther on Jul 28, 2012 11:19:55 GMT -5
Years later I read Dylan saying something about how it was a nasty song about revenge as in "How does it feel to have my boot on your neck and your homeless with no direction." He didn't say any such thing.
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Post by acebackwords on Jul 28, 2012 17:13:44 GMT -5
Years later I read Dylan saying something about how it was a nasty song about revenge as in "How does it feel to have my boot on your neck and your homeless with no direction." He didn't say any such thing. I didn't say he said that. Read what I said a little more carefully. Here's one thing Dylan did say about the inspiration for writing Like a Rolling Stone. It was "all about my steady hatred directed at some point that was honest. In the end it wasn't hatred, it was telling someone something they didn't know, telling them they were lucky. Revenge, thats a better word." He said when he was writing the lyrics it was "this long piece of vomit." The song is often referred to as an "anthem about resentment and revenge." What point are you trying to make here, Panther? Thats assuming you have one.
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Post by acebackwords on Jul 28, 2012 17:40:45 GMT -5
The author Oliver Trager describes the lyrics as "Dylan's sneer at a woman who has fallen from grace and is reduced to fending for herself in a hostile, unfamiliar world." And comments Dylan has made about the song over the years leads me to believe that thats an accurate interpretation of Dylan's intent. Its a song about (among other things) payback, baby. The worm has turned. You were so high and mighty but now you've fallen and Dylan is enjoying watching the fall.
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Post by coachbk on Jul 28, 2012 23:00:20 GMT -5
Instant Karma: great song by John-would have been just as great, if not even better as a Beatles song. A fantastic single. Cold Turkey-OK song by John-likely could have been better as a Beatles B-side or album track. Not really hit single material. Like A Rolling Stone-good, overrated song. Dylan had many better songs. Both Lennon and McCartney had many better songs both together and on their own.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 29, 2012 7:36:24 GMT -5
The author Oliver Trager describes the lyrics as "Dylan's sneer at a woman who has fallen from grace and is reduced to fending for herself in a hostile, unfamiliar world." And comments Dylan has made about the song over the years leads me to believe that thats an accurate interpretation of Dylan's intent. Its a song about (among other things) payback, baby. The worm has turned. You were so high and mighty but now you've fallen and Dylan is enjoying watching the fall. Excellent. It's a brilliant song. But that goes without saying, really...
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Post by mikev on Jul 29, 2012 14:00:08 GMT -5
Instant Karma: great song by John-would have been just as great, if not even better as a Beatles song. A fantastic single. Cold Turkey-OK song by John-likely could have been better as a Beatles B-side or album track. Not really hit single material. Like A Rolling Stone-good, overrated song. Dylan had many better songs. Both Lennon and McCartney had many better songs both together and on their own. Even though George Harrison actually appears on the Instant Karma single, his role is pounding generic piano chords.
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Post by Panther on Jul 30, 2012 4:28:17 GMT -5
Even though George Harrison actually appears on the Instant Karma single... He does??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 5:53:43 GMT -5
Even though George Harrison actually appears on the Instant Karma single... He does?? Depends how much you believe wiki but they reckon George played on Instant Karma en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_Karma! here is part of another article on this subject.... On this day in 1970, John Lennon wrote, recorded, and mixed his new single, “Instant Karma,” all in one day. It ranks as one of the fastest-released songs in pop music history, recorded at London’s Abbey Road Studios and arriving in stores only ten days later. The single peaked at No. 3 on the US chart and No. 5 in the UK. Lennon later stated, “I wrote it for breakfast, recorded it for lunch, and we’re putting it out for dinner.” Lennon’s makeshift band for the day was George Harrison on guitar, his old mate from the Beatles’ Hamburg days, Klaus Voorman, on bass, Alan White on drums, and keyboard player Billy Preston. The song’s title came from Melinde Kendall, the wife of Yoko Ono’s former husband Tony Cox. John and Yoko had stayed with them in Denmark during December of 1969 and had heard her using the phrase in conversation. www.musicroom.com/blog/music-news/this-day-in-music-instant-karma
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Post by mikev on Jul 30, 2012 7:03:07 GMT -5
Depends how much you believe wiki but they reckon George played on Instant Karma en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_Karma! here is part of another article on this subject.... On this day in 1970, John Lennon wrote, recorded, and mixed his new single, “Instant Karma,” all in one day. It ranks as one of the fastest-released songs in pop music history, recorded at London’s Abbey Road Studios and arriving in stores only ten days later. The single peaked at No. 3 on the US chart and No. 5 in the UK. Lennon later stated, “I wrote it for breakfast, recorded it for lunch, and we’re putting it out for dinner.” Lennon’s makeshift band for the day was George Harrison on guitar, his old mate from the Beatles’ Hamburg days, Klaus Voorman, on bass, Alan White on drums, and keyboard player Billy Preston. The song’s title came from Melinde Kendall, the wife of Yoko Ono’s former husband Tony Cox. John and Yoko had stayed with them in Denmark during December of 1969 and had heard her using the phrase in conversation. www.musicroom.com/blog/music-news/this-day-in-music-instant-karmaLewisohn mentions George on lead guitar, but I know I read somewhere that he also played piano along with John, Preston and Voorman (wall of sound effect)
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Post by mikev on Jul 30, 2012 7:18:44 GMT -5
I just listened to the studio cut. I don't hear any guitar- just pianos, bass and drums
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Post by theman on Jul 30, 2012 17:11:21 GMT -5
here is part of another article on this subject.... On this day in 1970, John Lennon wrote, recorded, and mixed his new single, “Instant Karma,” all in one day. It ranks as one of the fastest-released songs in pop music history, recorded at London’s Abbey Road Studios and arriving in stores only ten days later. The single peaked at No. 3 on the US chart and No. 5 in the UK. Lennon later stated, “I wrote it for breakfast, recorded it for lunch, and we’re putting it out for dinner.” Lennon’s makeshift band for the day was George Harrison on guitar, his old mate from the Beatles’ Hamburg days, Klaus Voorman, on bass, Alan White on drums, and keyboard player Billy Preston. www.musicroom.com/blog/music-news/this-day-in-music-instant-karmaMan, I love this desciption of one of my favorite solo Beatles songs ever!!!
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Aug 1, 2012 21:44:00 GMT -5
I'm a bit late on this thread, which is interesting.
My take is thusly:
When Imagine (the album) first came out, I really liked it. I thought parts of the song Imagine were a bit off coming from Lennon, but I remember a group of us thinking the feel of the lyrics were very Yoko-like. But I did like the song, pretty well.
Crippled Inside and Jealous Guy I though excellent. Also excellent was Soldier - I loved its length, which seemed to emphasize the point of the song.
It' So Hard, Oh My Love, How seemed total filler, but good.
Gimme Some Truth I thought was ordinary - Lennon is often a slogan thinker.
Oh Yoko - oh dear: good job it was at the end of side 2, so I could lift the needle before the song started. Embarassing.
How Do You Sleep - all of us intelligent, knowing Beatle fans knew that Macca was a drop-kick, so we all loved ol' John giving it to him. In public, in spades, yes!
And now? I think the album is a bit of a bore. Too poppy for me now. And the only song left that I listen to from the album (the song is part of a Lennon playlist on my iPod) is How Do You Sleep! Magnificent still, after all these years. Yes, yes, I know it's puerile, but it has balls. I wish Macca had replied in kind. Then these two guys might have regained their muses.
McCabe
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Post by coachbk on Aug 2, 2012 12:02:01 GMT -5
Welcome back Mr. McCabe!
And as usual we are about as far apart as you can get. My least favorite song (HDYS) of all-time is your favorite on the album. The other I dislike is one you praise (IDWTBASMIDWTD). Two of my favorites, (Gimme Some Truth and Oh Yoko) you don't have much use for.
BTW I happen to be considered fairly intelligent and I disagree with your take on Lennon/McCartney re: How Do You Sleep. I personally find it strange that anyone with intelligence could like that song. I will at least credit you with calling it puerile. The whole feuding was very juvenile and beneath each of these men and is a low point of their careers.
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Aug 2, 2012 17:14:05 GMT -5
Welcome back Mr. McCabe! And as usual we are about as far apart as you can get. My least favorite song (HDYS) of all-time is your favorite on the album. The other I dislike is one you praise (IDWTBASMIDWTD). Two of my favorites, (Gimme Some Truth and Oh Yoko) you don't have much use for. BTW I happen to be considered fairly intelligent and I disagree with your take on Lennon/McCartney re: How Do You Sleep. I personally find it strange that anyone with intelligence could like that song. I will at least credit you with calling it puerile. The whole feuding was very juvenile and beneath each of these men and is a low point of their careers. Thanks for the nice welcome, coach. I've been really busy (which is nice). In my post, I should have put "intelligent" in inverted commas. I was being a little sarcastic - like, it was very hip to put Macca down in those days. But I do wish, genuinely, that Macca had replied with a bit of vitriol. McCabe
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