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Post by sallyg on Dec 3, 2013 16:25:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 17:24:43 GMT -5
I checked who he was beaten by and i don't know any of those 3 artists that filled positions 1, 2 and 3.
That's either through old age or the crap, unappealing state of modern music.
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 3, 2013 18:37:01 GMT -5
I checked who he was beaten by and i don't know any of those 3 artists that filled positions 1, 2 and 3. That's either through old age or the crap, unappealing state of modern music. Have you heard of Kim Kardashian? She is famous for being famous. Kanye is married to her. He is the rapper who has all the "Yeah, uh huh, yeah, uh huh"'s in his songs. The only song I actually have heard of his is "Gold digger". That's the song Jamie Foxx sings "She give me money, when I'm in need...." on. His latest song is I Am a God. I haven't heard it. He recorded this album at Abbey Road. Attachments:
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 3, 2013 18:45:55 GMT -5
You may have seen Vampire Weekend on Saturday Night Live.
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Post by sayne on Dec 3, 2013 21:24:50 GMT -5
I think the big theme of all this is what will any of those artist who came out between 2000 and today be releasing 50 years from now. Good on you Paul and John Fogarty!
I can imagine that 50 years from now there will be some kind of Beatles release on the charts. Kanye? Go for it.
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 3, 2013 21:51:36 GMT -5
I think the big theme of all this is what will any of those artist who came out between 2000 and today be releasing 50 years from now. Good on you Paul and John Fogarty! I can imagine that 50 years from now there will be some kind of Beatles release on the charts. Kanye? Go for it. The year-end top 25 singles from 2000 were by Faith Hill, Santana featuring Rob Thomas and Santana featuring The Product, Joe, Vertical Horizon, Destiny's Child, Savage Garden, Lonestar, Matchbox 20, Toni Braxton, Creed, Aaliyah, Sisqo, 3 Doors DOwn, Pink, Madonna, Janet Jackson, Christina Aguilera, Brian McKnight, 'N Sync, Marc Anthony, Montell Jordan and Sisqo. Have any of these guys had hits lately? That's after 13 years.
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 3, 2013 21:56:08 GMT -5
I guess I should had done albums.
1 "NO STRINGS ATTACHED" 'N Sync 2 "SUPERNATURAL" Santana 3 "THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP" Eminem 4 "OOPS!...I DID IT AGAIN" Britney Spears 5 "DR. DRE -- 2001" Dr. Dre 6 "HUMAN CLAY" Creed 7 "ALL THE WAY... A DECADE OF SONG" Celine Dion 8 " CHRISTINA AGUILERA" Christina Aguilera 9 "MILLENNIUM" Backstreet Boys 10 "...AND THEN THERE WAS X" DMX 11 "FLY" Dixie Chicks 12 "UNLEASH THE DRAGON" Sisqo 13 "THE WRITING'S ON THE WALL" Destiny's Child 14 "COUNTRY GRAMMAR" Nelly 15 "DEVIL WITHOUT A CAUSE" Kid Rock 16 "BREATHE" Faith Hill 17 "...BABY ONE MORE TIME" Britney Spears 18 "THE BETTER LIFE" 3 Doors Down 19 "ISSUES" Korn 20 "COME ON OVER" Shania Twain 21 "ON HOW LIFE IS" Macy Gray 22 "SIGNIFICANT OTHER" Limp Bizkit 23 "VOL. 3... LIFE AND TIMES OF S. CARTER" Jay-Z 24 "CALIFORNICATION" Red Hot Chili Peppers 25 "AFFIRMATION" Savage Garden
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 3, 2013 22:43:33 GMT -5
I guess I should had done albums. 1 "NO STRINGS ATTACHED" 'N Sync Last album, went No 1 and the band split. Only Justin Timberlake has any real presence today. Of course, he is at the top in todays music. 2 "SUPERNATURAL" Santana - Last album , Shape Shifter. Did not chart in the US or Great Britain. 3 "THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP" Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP 2. I should had stuck with the singles chart. This was the second biggest debut of the year, behind Justin. 4 "OOPS!...I DID IT AGAIN" Britney Spears - Britney Jean, just released Nov 29. Word is "It's no Oops, I Did It Again". 5 "DR. DRE -- 2001" Dr. Dre - Has not released an album since. 6 "HUMAN CLAY" Creed - Last Album Full Circle in 2009. Debuted at No 2. 7 "ALL THE WAY... A DECADE OF SONG" Celine Dion - loved Me Back to Life debuted at No 2 in 2013. 8 " CHRISTINA AGUILERA" Christina Aguilera - Lotus debut at No 7 in Nov 2012 and dropped to No 17 the second week. Internationally, a commercial failure. 9 "MILLENNIUM" Backstreet Boys - In a World Like This reached No 5 in the US in 2013. Something of a comeback. 10 "...AND THEN THERE WAS X" DMX - Undisputed, No 19 in 2012. 11 "FLY" Dixie Chicks - Last album was Taking the Long Way Home. It made No 1 in the US in 2006. Then, well, you don't mess with Texas (if you're trying to sell country records). 12 "UNLEASH THE DRAGON" Sisqo - Return of Dragon. No 7 in 2001. He has an album coming out in 2014, Last Dragon. 13 "THE WRITING'S ON THE WALL" Destiny's Child - Went out on top. 2004's Destiny Fulfilled. You can not argue with Bootylicious. 14 "COUNTRY GRAMMAR" Nelly - M.O. in 2013, debuted at No 14 and then went M.I.A. 15 "DEVIL WITHOUT A CAUSE" Kid Rock - Rebel Soul in 2012. No chart info available. 16 "BREATHE" Faith Hill - I'm going to take a break and finish this up tomorrow. Anyone is welcome to take over. 17 "...BABY ONE MORE TIME" Britney Spears 18 "THE BETTER LIFE" 3 Doors Down 19 "ISSUES" Korn 20 "COME ON OVER" Shania Twain 21 "ON HOW LIFE IS" Macy Gray 22 "SIGNIFICANT OTHER" Limp Bizkit 23 "VOL. 3... LIFE AND TIMES OF S. CARTER" Jay-Z 24 "CALIFORNICATION" Red Hot Chili Peppers 25 "AFFIRMATION" Savage Garden
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Post by John S. Damm on Dec 3, 2013 22:53:04 GMT -5
LOL, a lot of those 2000 artists are still going pretty strong today!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 22:56:39 GMT -5
I checked who he was beaten by and i don't know any of those 3 artists that filled positions 1, 2 and 3. That's either through old age or the crap, unappealing state of modern music. Have you heard of Kim Kardashian? She is famous for being famous. Kanye is married to her. He is the rapper who has all the "Yeah, uh huh, yeah, uh huh"'s in his songs. The only song I actually have heard of his is "Gold digger". That's the song Jamie Foxx sings "She give me money, when I'm in need...." on. His latest song is I Am a God. I haven't heard it. He recorded this album at Abbey Road. I have heard of Kim, is she the one they have asked not to bend over on a sunny day for fear of her causing a lunar like eclipse... That is some super size me rump...
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 3, 2013 23:45:08 GMT -5
Have you heard of Kim Kardashian? She is famous for being famous. Kanye is married to her. He is the rapper who has all the "Yeah, uh huh, yeah, uh huh"'s in his songs. The only song I actually have heard of his is "Gold digger". That's the song Jamie Foxx sings "She give me money, when I'm in need...." on. His latest song is I Am a God. I haven't heard it. He recorded this album at Abbey Road. I have heard of Kim, is she the one they have asked not to bend over on a sunny day for fear of her causing a lunar like eclipse... That is some super size me rump... They actually x-rayed her rear to verify that it was real. It's not my thing but apparently Kanye likes the junk in the trunk.
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 4, 2013 22:14:56 GMT -5
I was in Target tonight. I swear, I had just picked up Paul's NEW, trying to decide if I would get it for my brother for Christmas, when Queenie Eye came on the PA, intercom, or whatever it is. It got played at Target.
Of course I was only showcasing. I'll get the album on Amazon, if I decide to.
My brother is ten years older than me. He maybe was the one who talked up letting the kids stay home from church to watch Ed Sullivan that night. He was 18, I was 8. He bought Meet the Beatles and there were always Beatle singles in the house that he brought in. I think back then the kids used to switch out singles back and fourths. The singles would have Kenny or Pam or whatever marked on them.
A few years later he came back from Nam with a 4 track reel to reel recorder. He had one reel that had the White Album on it and Dylan or something on another track. You could switch between tracks and hear the different albums. A good use of the tapes. You probably couldn't get the 4 track recordings anyway.
He had Sgt Pepper on vinyl too.
NEW seems a little weak for Christmas when phrased in that setting but I think it would be better than BBC.
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Post by John S. Damm on Dec 5, 2013 11:26:14 GMT -5
I have New playing in my car. It is a good listen. I think it is one of those albums that has to be played as a whole so I don't know how you i-pad or i-pod jockeys who cherry pick your music in download are doing it but I think the tracks work well in the album concept, one after the other in the order Paul deemed.
But as individual tracks, there are maybe two at the most that seem "stand-alone" songs, songs that could hold their own on a compilation and I am thinking maybe "New" and "Queenie Eye."
I am having a funny relationship with this album. I don't feel as close to it as I have all Paul albums of original material since Flaming Pie yet I still am enjoying it. It is not tugging at my heartstrings like Paul's other albums have. I seem a bemused spectator to it.
I felt this way about Off The Ground too although there I think there were some great stand alone songs and it was the entire album itself that didn't flow smoothly in my opinion of course. I felt an outsider to much of that album.
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Post by lowbasso on Dec 5, 2013 16:39:22 GMT -5
I have New playing in my car. It is a good listen. I think it is one of those albums that has to be played as a whole so I don't know how you i-pad or i-pod jockeys who cherry pick your music in download are doing it but I think the tracks work well in the album concept, one after the other in the order Paul deemed. But as individual tracks, there are maybe two at the most that seem "stand-alone" songs, songs that could hold their own on a compilation and I am thinking maybe "New" and "Queenie Eye." I am having a funny relationship with this album. I don't feel as close to it as I have all Paul albums of original material since Flaming Pie yet I still am enjoying it. It is not tugging at my heartstrings like Paul's other albums have. I seem a bemused spectator to it. I felt this way about Off The Ground too although there I think there were some great stand alone songs and it was the entire album itself that didn't flow smoothly in my opinion of course. I felt an outsider to much of that album. You can purchase and download an entire album from ITunes onto your IPod if you so desire. Usually cheaper than purchasing a CD. So if you want the enire "New" album from McCartney on your IPod, easy to do. And you can plug your IPod into your car either thru a Aux jack or thru a USB jack if your car has one. That way your entire library on your IPod is available to play on your car music system while you are driving. So album concepts work as well as cherry-picking on your IPod. All up to your individual preference. CD's are going to become dinosaurs like vinyl and cassette tapes in another ten years. Most music will become available purely as downloads off websites like ITunes. I know some folks here won't like it, but it's coming nonetheless.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Dec 5, 2013 18:47:15 GMT -5
CD's are going to become dinosaurs like vinyl and cassette tapes in another ten years. Most music will become available purely as downloads off websites like ITunes. I know some folks here won't like it, but it's coming nonetheless. LOL! But wait -- weren't CDs supposed to become "dinosaurs" about three years ago already? It's not a matter of me "not liking it"; it's just that what you claim is never going to happen despite all these wishful "Chicken Little, the Sky Is Falling!" predictions. I have run into this now and then from people who just automatically assume that "all people" prefer downloads, and that "nobody wants to clutter their homes with cumbersome physical media". Meanwhile, there are people who love to collect, have physical items to admire and display. I have to point out that Vinyl has not gone anywhere, and that it is not going to go anywhere. Vinyl will out-live the cockroaches. As you may know, I re-discovered vinyl records a couple of years ago, and was amazed that it's quite big with young people. New artists release new albums on vinyl records. There are celebrations each year called "Record Store Day", and whenever I go with my 21-year-old nephew, I am the oldest guy there -- it is actually largely a young person's market. Even when CDs overtook vinyl in the 1980s (and when even I sold my original record collection and touted "Vinyl Is Dead") , the records were still being sold and spun, and enjoyed by the core vinyl hounds. They have never gone away, I have discovered -- and now in the 21st century, even kids are loving it. Not "all", naturally - but enough.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Dec 5, 2013 18:52:12 GMT -5
You can purchase and download an entire album from ITunes onto your IPod if you so desire. Usually cheaper than purchasing a CD. So if you want the enire "New" album from McCartney on your IPod, easy to do. And you can plug your IPod into your car either thru a Aux jack or thru a USB jack if your car has one. That way your entire library on your IPod is available to play on your car music system while you are driving. As far as the IPod thing, that's fine as an extention of a basic physical disc collection to me. But no way is that a replacement, nor can it actually be considered "an album".
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 5, 2013 19:09:40 GMT -5
So people are going to completely give up on having music that sounds good?
When these kids get older and start really listening to music, they will want the better sound. Maybe when you get a little older lowbasso, maybe you'll appreciate that.
You do realize that the Beatles 2009 remasters and the previous versions virtually sound no different when you are listening to them in mp3 or mpeg. They can tweak the master to make it better for the compressed files that iTunes use but it still does not sound as good as a cd or a flac file. Cassettes never replaced albums because that did not sound as good as vinyl and they weren't fun to look at. They were great in the car, that's why they were as popular as they were.
The music industry may screw up and go the route you say. They are so worried about people stealing music files but people who like music want the discs. Yeah, it makes sense they would want to convince people they don't need the discs. They are about that stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 22:27:45 GMT -5
I'll always prefer to have a cd in my collection than just a download, and , unless something drastically changes in the next 10 years, all my downloads would have been free....
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 5, 2013 22:55:41 GMT -5
I'll always prefer to have a cd in my collection than just a download, and , unless something drastically changes in the next 10 years, all my downloads would have been free.... And on those free downloads, you don't need any stinking' discs.
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 5, 2013 23:01:48 GMT -5
I don't care a whole lot for this digital age. I can't figure out how to get that click and ship postage into a stamp book.
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 8, 2013 13:24:47 GMT -5
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Post by sayne on Dec 8, 2013 20:58:58 GMT -5
This morning on Palladia I saw the new Paul documentary Something NEW. It's really a good doc. My point, though, is whenever they started playing a snippet of a song on NEW I found myself saying, "That's a good one." Even the ones I tend to skip when I'm listening to the CD in the car.
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Post by debjorgo on Dec 22, 2013 0:03:20 GMT -5
Have yourself a merry little Christmas. Paul was did a cameo on SNL.
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Post by RockoRoll on Jan 17, 2014 5:41:30 GMT -5
Not sure if this interview has been posted...The interviewer (Geoff Lloyd) asks Paul whether he'll buy & read the 900 page book (Vol 1) by Mark Lewishon,? And Paul replies with a flat NO, as an answer?? At the end of the interview, Paul also discusses John's *Benefit Of Mr Kite*, and yep definitely claiming 50/50 with the song? (John's house, John's poster, but we the wrote the song together???) www.absoluteradio.co.uk/player/Paul-McCartney/10541/Interview.html
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Post by debjorgo on Jan 25, 2014 22:02:52 GMT -5
I just saw a commercial for Microsoft's Surface tablet using Paul's NEW song. It was co-sponsored by the Grammys.
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Post by sallyg on Apr 1, 2014 2:21:30 GMT -5
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Post by Panther on Apr 4, 2014 23:09:09 GMT -5
CD's are going to become dinosaurs like vinyl and cassette tapes in another ten years. I'm not so sure about that. Here in Japan, sales of CDs are as strong as ever. In fact -- with 1/2 to 1/3 of the USA's population -- Japan has now overtaken the US as the world's #1 market for CD sales. More tellingly, though, CDs and DVDs (often played interchangeably in the same machines) are enduring. Everyone still has CD/DVD players and everyone still uses them, if less than before. Everyone's PC plays CDs and DVDs. So, the formats are not going away, as vinyl and cassettes did. I think the CD format -- after 25 years in common usage -- has won. It's not going anywhere. In fact, I doubt the CD format can be improved on as an 'artifact' of physical music recording (it can be lengthened, the quality can be slightly improved, but the format itself cannot be improved). I don't think people want or need a smaller unit than a CD, and for mass storage everyone already has their digital files, which is a totally separate thing. To the extent that physical formats of salable music endure, I think the CD will endure.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 5, 2014 0:04:17 GMT -5
CD's are going to become dinosaurs like vinyl and cassette tapes in another ten years. I'm not so sure about that. Here in Japan, sales of CDs are as strong as ever. In fact -- with 1/2 to 1/3 of the USA's population -- Japan has now overtaken the US as the world's #1 market for CD sales. More tellingly, though, CDs and DVDs (often played interchangeably in the same machines) are enduring. Everyone still has CD/DVD players and everyone still uses them, if less than before. Everyone's PC plays CDs and DVDs. So, the formats are not going away, as vinyl and cassettes did. Vinyl has not gone anywhere. Just like the never-dying cockroach, it has endured, and has never disappeared. Other formats for music may come and go but records have not. They make brand new turntables (I bought mine in 2011), and new needles and cartridges. New modern artists are putting their newest albums on Vinyl. Every April for the past several years has had a special event called "Record Store Day" (it's on April 19th this year). Young teens and college kids are into Vinyl these days and it's popular and "in vogue" with them. Whenever I go to 'Record Store Day', I stick out like a sore thumb as an older guy amidst the Millenials. There is this myth perpetrated out there that "physical media is dying and soon it will all be gone", but this is just not the case. I am not claiming that records will ever be #1 or in the majority again, but there has been steady growth in the past several years, after records had a lull in the 1990s and 2000s. And all that time, there were still shops and people seeking out records. As long as there are humans, many of them will always still love collecting, owning, having physical and tangible items:
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Post by lowbasso on Apr 5, 2014 10:28:02 GMT -5
I'm not so sure about that. Here in Japan, sales of CDs are as strong as ever. In fact -- with 1/2 to 1/3 of the USA's population -- Japan has now overtaken the US as the world's #1 market for CD sales. More tellingly, though, CDs and DVDs (often played interchangeably in the same machines) are enduring. Everyone still has CD/DVD players and everyone still uses them, if less than before. Everyone's PC plays CDs and DVDs. So, the formats are not going away, as vinyl and cassettes did. Vinyl has not gone anywhere. Just like the never-dying cockroach, it has endured, and has never disappeared. Other formats for music may come and go but records have not. They make brand new turntables (I bought mine in 2011), and new needles and cartridges. New modern artists are putting their newest albums on Vinyl. Every April for the past several years has had a special event called "Record Store Day" (it's on April 19th this year). Young teens and college kids are into Vinyl these days and it's popular and "in vogue" with them. Whenever I go to 'Record Store Day', I stick out like a sore thumb as an older guy amidst the Millenials. There is this myth perpetrated out there that "physical media is dying and soon it will all be gone", but this is just not the case. I am not claiming that records will ever be #1 or in the majority again, but there has been steady growth in the past several years, after records had a lull in the 1990s and 2000s. And all that time, there were still shops and people seeking out records. As long as there are humans, many of them will always still love collecting, owning, having physical and tangible items: Let's hope we are all still here and healthy in ten years and see what the trends are then. My guess is the trend is continuing towards hand-held MP3's, Ipods, etc. that will download wirelessly most music purchased. Cars, by then may be able to download whatever music you want to hear instantly on devices (like today's radios) you simply pay an annual fee for, like satellite radio does now. Vinyl will be for interested collectors, like Joe, who still wish to hear music in that fashion, much like some people still ride trains long-distances, either because they fancy that quaint mode of travel, or are afraid to fly. Whether there will be companies in the future (10-20 years from now) still willing to produce vinyl on a large scale is a question. It has to be economically viable to do so. CD's drawback is they physically require a lot of space to store them, much like vinyl albums. In 10-20 years, there will be no need to physically store any music in your home since it will all be available via internet or cloud storage.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 5, 2014 16:21:02 GMT -5
Vinyl will be for interested collectors, like Joe, who still wish to hear music in that fashion, much like some people still ride trains long-distances, either because they fancy that quaint mode of travel, or are afraid to fly. Whether there will be companies in the future (10-20 years from now) still willing to produce vinyl on a large scale is a question. It has to be economically viable to do so. CD's drawback is they physically require a lot of space to store them, much like vinyl albums. In 10-20 years, there will be no need to physically store any music in your home since it will all be available via internet or cloud storage. Ten or twenty years from now? Vinyl is bigger now than it was the last 10- 20... I'd already thought there was no need to physically store any music by this time (2014)? Whether it's already here or not, the thing is, there will always be people (like the ones I presented in my video -- and there are hundreds of other vids which I obviously won't post, too --) who ENJOY collecting. They may always be a niche, but it doesn't matter. Just today again I was in my record store and there were a bunch of 20-something youths inside there -- one of them grabbed a Prince 45 in its original picture sleeve, and said "cool!", and had a stack of albums to go with it. Not "everybody" is sold on this soul-less new way of accumulating their downloaded audio. Trust me when I tell ya that when it's in you blood to collect, it stays there! And there are a lot of us. You know what T-shirts they're making now? They say "VINYL IS KILLING THE MP3". And this whole issue people today seem to have with "taking up space" --- do they all want to buy a huge multi-room house and then have it furnished with just a tiny 2" Smart Phone sitting on the floor, and have everything empty? It will never happen -- not for "everyone". People still generally like 'things'. I think that's part of the reason young people today I see in these stores and record shows are so into collecting ... they want something fun, tangible, real -- not a soul-less 'cloud'.
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