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Post by debjorgo on Apr 5, 2014 17:47:21 GMT -5
CD's drawback is they physically require a lot of space to store them, much like vinyl albums. In 10-20 years, there will be no need to physically store any music in your home since it will all be available via internet or cloud storage. Don't they already have phone aps for that? And youtube lets you set up playlists. There are those sites where you select an artist and it plays songs it thinks you'll like. All free. Why pay for a service? Didn't they say radio would end record sales? The music industry does not need to be trying to convince people that they do not need physical media. My whole music collection takes up two panel shelves about 5 feet tall and four feet wide. I've got a fairly good sized collection and there's enough free space to last me for a couple more years or so.
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Post by lowbasso on Apr 6, 2014 11:19:39 GMT -5
CD's drawback is they physically require a lot of space to store them, much like vinyl albums. In 10-20 years, there will be no need to physically store any music in your home since it will all be available via internet or cloud storage. Don't they already have phone aps for that? And youtube lets you set up playlists. There are those sites where you select an artist and it plays songs it thinks you'll like. All free. Why pay for a service? Didn't they say radio would end record sales? The music industry does not need to be trying to convince people that they do not need physical media. My whole music collection takes up two panel shelves about 5 feet tall and four feet wide. I've got a fairly good sized collection and there's enough free space to last me for a couple more years or so. I have totally run out of room for any more cd's in my house. I have gone completely to my Ipod now. I back it up on flash drives frequently. I just plug the Ipod into my car system when driving, and I have the choice of my own library or Sirius/XM. I use it when biking long distance, and thru the stereo system when home. All my favorites from every cd I own are now loaded. I rarely put a cd on anymore, other than to load some or all of it onto my Ipod.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 6, 2014 12:15:55 GMT -5
I have totally run out of room for any more cd's in my house. I have gone completely to my Ipod now. I back it up on flash drives frequently. I just plug the Ipod into my car system when driving, and I have the choice of my own library or Sirius/XM. I use it when biking long distance, and thru the stereo system when home. All my favorites from every cd I own are now loaded. I rarely put a cd on anymore, other than to load some or all of it onto my Ipod. It sounds like someone may be a little bit obsessive compulsive. How many disks do you have that you have never listened to? You sound more like a collector than a typical music buyer. Which is funny because it is usually the collectors who are the most adamant about wanting the hard media. I'd say I have a lot more music than most people I know. My iPod currently has 17,275 songs. That's not all the music I have. Before PCs had terabytes of memory, I had to thin my digital collection out. I'll have to go back and see your comments on the US Albums. You couldn't have had much interest in them.
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Post by lowbasso on Apr 6, 2014 21:11:53 GMT -5
I have totally run out of room for any more cd's in my house. I have gone completely to my Ipod now. I back it up on flash drives frequently. I just plug the Ipod into my car system when driving, and I have the choice of my own library or Sirius/XM. I use it when biking long distance, and thru the stereo system when home. All my favorites from every cd I own are now loaded. I rarely put a cd on anymore, other than to load some or all of it onto my Ipod. It sounds like someone may be a little bit obsessive compulsive. How many disks do you have that you have never listened to? You sound more like a collector than a typical music buyer. Which is funny because it is usually the collectors who are the most adamant about wanting the hard media. I'd say I have a lot more music than most people I know. My iPod currently has 17,275 songs. That's not all the music I have. Before PCs had terabytes of memory, I had to thin my digital collection out. I'll have to go back and see your comments on the US Albums. You couldn't have had much interest in them. I am a professional opera singer. I have music on cd ( and vinyl) for pop, and classical numbering in the hundreds of discs. I have all the US albums on vinyl from the 60's. I have all the British versions on vinyl as well as cd from the 80's and the remasters. I have over 100 bootleg cd's of the Fabs I have collected from both here and numerous trips to Europe when I sang over there. Now I am a fan of music on mp3's as it makes storage infinitely more sensible.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 6, 2014 22:02:16 GMT -5
It sounds like someone may be a little bit obsessive compulsive. How many disks do you have that you have never listened to? You sound more like a collector than a typical music buyer. Which is funny because it is usually the collectors who are the most adamant about wanting the hard media. I'd say I have a lot more music than most people I know. My iPod currently has 17,275 songs. That's not all the music I have. Before PCs had terabytes of memory, I had to thin my digital collection out. I'll have to go back and see your comments on the US Albums. You couldn't have had much interest in them. I am a professional opera singer. I have music on cd ( and vinyl) for pop, and classical numbering in the hundreds of discs. I have all the US albums on vinyl from the 60's. I have all the British versions on vinyl as well as cd from the 80's and the remasters. I have over 100 bootleg cd's of the Fabs I have collected from both here and numerous trips to Europe when I sang over there. Now I am a fan of music on mp3's as it makes storage infinitely more sensible. I understand. I'm just saying, volume alone would indicate that you are somewhat as much a collector as a music enthusiast. It must be hard to give each of these musical albums the proper listening justice. I have a friend who has several rooms full of CDs, LPs and cassettes. He was the one who perplexed me in that he had CDs that he had not opened. A few decades back, I think I said something to him along the lines of vinyl being dead now that CDs had arrived and that LPs were obsolete. He was terribly discomforted thinking that his collection was losing value and importance. That was an early instance of me not thinking before I speak.
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 6, 2014 22:12:46 GMT -5
I will keep buying CDs as long as music is sold on them. I like them. I bought The Avett Brothers Country Was as a digital download from amazon.com because it has not been available on CD for years. Now I can't retrieve that album as it was on my old computer where I downloaded it to and my harddrive literally broke in two!
I have looked on amazon.com under my account but I can't retrieve it, it must have been a one time only download! I rebought it on iTunes but that sucked. I don't like owning that fine album like that. I want to hold it in my hands.
That's just me. Whatever gets you through the night, is alright!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 7, 2014 5:56:25 GMT -5
I rebought it on iTunes but that sucked. I don't like owning that fine album like that. I want to hold it in my hands. That's just me. No, it isn't just you!
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 7, 2014 18:34:58 GMT -5
Wogblog had the link to Paul's Early Days video. It's exclusive at Rolling Stone. Rolling Stone LinkI'll have to watch it again. I didn't see Johnny Depp. I'd like to see more of Paul jamming with the brothers at the beginning. Pretty cool.
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Post by sayne on Jul 7, 2014 22:48:26 GMT -5
Wogblog had the link to Paul's Early Days video. It's exclusive at Rolling Stone. Rolling Stone LinkI'll have to watch it again. I didn't see Johnny Depp. I'd like to see more of Paul jamming with the brothers at the beginning. Pretty cool. I was kinda surprised that Paul let that part in where the kid used a rifle to shoot something in the air (a bird?).
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Post by sayne on Jul 7, 2014 22:54:24 GMT -5
I'd like to see more of Paul jamming with the brothers at the beginning. Pretty cool. Yeah, that would be GREAT! In fact, maybe Paul should do a real raw acoustic trad-blues/country album, recorded live with some REAL delta bluesmen. Maybe even have Clapton produce it. Or, it could be the "begging to be done" Paul/Keef album. Whatever the format, THAT would be a Grammy slam dunk.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 8, 2014 11:36:10 GMT -5
I'd like to see more of Paul jamming with the brothers at the beginning. Pretty cool. Yeah, that would be GREAT! In fact, maybe Paul should do a real raw acoustic trad-blues/country album, recorded live with some REAL delta bluesmen. Maybe even have Clapton produce it. Or, it could be the "begging to be done" Paul/Keef album. Whatever the format, THAT would be a Grammy slam dunk. Yeah, I was disappointed as the email from Paul had this picture: I thought Paul would do "Early Days" live with those Delta Blues cats but then it goes into a fictional story. Who died? I didn't get that part. Did he "shoot his eye out" with that rifle? And notice the one Buddy Holly looking dude who at one point is on banjo. Maybe that was Depp later on in the video when they are old men unless debjorgo was joking about Depp who seems to be in a lot of Paul videos(Sorry Paul, Johnny still likes the Stones better!).
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 8, 2014 12:39:15 GMT -5
What a lousy video for the song "Early Days". The song is supposed to be about Paul's early days, and with John. They're the ones who slung their guitars across their backs, with Vaseline-greased hair.
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Post by sallyg on Jul 8, 2014 16:09:54 GMT -5
I may be in a minority, I like this video.
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 8, 2014 17:36:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I was disappointed as the email from Paul had this picture: I thought Paul would do "Early Days" live with those Delta Blues cats but then it goes into a fictional story. Who died? I didn't get that part. Did he "shoot his eye out" with that rifle? And notice the one Buddy Holly looking dude who at one point is on banjo. Maybe that was Depp later on in the video when they are old men unless debjorgo was joking about Depp who seems to be in a lot of Paul videos(Sorry Paul, Johnny still likes the Stones better!). I think that's Depp in the photo with all the ink.
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 8, 2014 17:40:57 GMT -5
Yep. Pretty bad when you just recognize someone by the tats.
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Post by nicole21290 on Jul 8, 2014 21:33:46 GMT -5
Love it. SO glad they didn't do some cheesy, corny lookalike video. The spirit and the relationship is there and wonderfully so. I actually found it quite touching.
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 8, 2014 22:06:15 GMT -5
I remember Paul saying something about the fear with videos is that they may just depict the words in the song. "I was driving down the street....",and that's what the video shows.
The video gave me a new appreciation for the song. I liked it.
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Post by theman on Jul 8, 2014 22:21:02 GMT -5
Nice video. Beautifully shot. Glad they didn't do a clichéd recreation of the lyrics, which could have been a boring version of "In Liverpool."
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 8, 2014 23:29:02 GMT -5
Love it. SO glad they didn't do some cheesy, corny lookalike video. The spirit and the relationship is there and wonderfully so. I actually found it quite touching. I agree. If there were actors of young Paul and John that might be corny. Or pictures of the real Paul and John throughout the video has been done before. I was hoping from the still I posted that it was simply Paul playing "Early Days" live with those cool cats, making it a little bluesier than the folk song it kind of is as recorded. I like folk music but it would have been jazzed up if thos dudes in the still were doing it with Paul.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Jul 11, 2014 15:51:31 GMT -5
Love it. SO glad they didn't do some cheesy, corny lookalike video. The spirit and the relationship is there and wonderfully so. I actually found it quite touching. I agree. If there were actors of young Paul and John that might be corny. Or pictures of the real Paul and John throughout the video has been done before. I was hoping from the still I posted that it was simply Paul playing "Early Days" live with those cool cats, making it a little bluesier than the folk song it kind of is as recorded. I like folk music but it would have been jazzed up if thos dudes in the still were doing it with Paul. I was very impressed by the video-something quite different. I would say it gave me a new appreciation for the song, but it was already high on my list. I missed Johnny Depp at first too then realized he had to be in that very first scene.
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Post by mikev on Jul 12, 2014 9:26:07 GMT -5
I agree. If there were actors of young Paul and John that might be corny. Or pictures of the real Paul and John throughout the video has been done before. I was hoping from the still I posted that it was simply Paul playing "Early Days" live with those cool cats, making it a little bluesier than the folk song it kind of is as recorded. I like folk music but it would have been jazzed up if thos dudes in the still were doing it with Paul. I was very impressed by the video-something quite different. I would say it gave me a new appreciation for the song, but it was already high on my list. I missed Johnny Depp at first too then realized he had to be in that very first scene. I could do without all the Johnny Depp cameos, but it is a brilliant video and I would love to have that lefty hollowbody Paul played in it. To jam with guys like that, well if they were real bluesmen and Paul didn't really jam with them for several hours, then it is a damned shame.
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Post by theman on Jul 24, 2014 16:05:25 GMT -5
I like Driving Rain and have from first listen. I am baffled how other older artists like Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Neil Diamond and even Lionel Ritchie have scored Billboard 200 #1s within the past 10 years but not Paul even with his huge following. I don't think Paul is getting any cross-over buyers meaning it is just us aging Beatles fans buying his stuff and not college kids(in large numbers) or older music lovers who are non-Beatle fanatics. In 1976/1977, many non-Wings fans bought WOA because that triple album was so awesome and deemed "must have" even by kids at my Junior High who had no use for "Silly Love Songs" or "Listen To What The Man Said." Competition the week of release is important but Pearl Jam aren't spring chickens either. As others(not me)have noted here, Paul tried very hard to get that #1 with his TV appearances and the live appearance in Times Square and the Sinatra School. Unfortunately I don't hear any other songs of New that would keep this album in the spotlight. I now agree the song "New" was clearly the best choice for a single and it bombed in terms of the Billboard Hot 100 if not in the hearts of Macca's hardcore following. We can say #2 or #3 or #4 ain't bad but other RRHF artists are scoring #1 albums so there is an issue here. I frankly don't care about the charts but Paul does so that keeps the story going. Even Weird Al can get a #1 album nowadays…. www.cnn.com/2014/07/24/showbiz/music/weird-al-mandatory-fun-number-one/
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 25, 2014 10:43:00 GMT -5
Holy cow! And Paul did a lot to promote New which I thought was cool. Remember in the 1970's with the exception of SOS which Wings toured to, Paul would just release an album, maybe do interviews with RS and Creem and maybe a press conference in L.A. and those albums would all go to #1 in the U.S. I checked the Billboard 200 last week and there are several Led Zeppelin albums in the Top 200. While that is cool, is there a reason for that? Is one of the band's songs on a popular new film soundtrack? The Eagles have at least two greatest hit comps in the Top 200. I suppose that is because they are touring.
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Post by markc on Jul 25, 2014 11:57:31 GMT -5
Those are groups! Paul isn't the Beatles. I'm sure Jagger, Plant, Henley and Frye didn't have the solo record sales success Paul has had.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 25, 2014 18:44:46 GMT -5
Holy cow! And Paul did a lot to promote New which I thought was cool. Remember in the 1970's with the exception of SOS which Wings toured to, Paul would just release an album, maybe do interviews with RS and Creem and maybe a press conference in L.A. and those albums would all go to #1 in the U.S. Just goes to show you that #1 often means nothing. I'm sure nobody seriously thinks Weird Al is more popular today than Paul McCartney. Paul still did amazing by having NEW go up to #3 in the US at his age. But Macca had competition in his way at the same time his record was released.
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 25, 2014 18:56:48 GMT -5
Holy cow! And Paul did a lot to promote New which I thought was cool. Remember in the 1970's with the exception of SOS which Wings toured to, Paul would just release an album, maybe do interviews with RS and Creem and maybe a press conference in L.A. and those albums would all go to #1 in the U.S. I checked the Billboard 200 last week and there are several Led Zeppelin albums in the Top 200. While that is cool, is there a reason for that? Is one of the band's songs on a popular new film soundtrack? The Eagles have at least two greatest hit comps in the Top 200. I suppose that is because they are touring. Zeppelin just released their first three remastered albums in two disc versions with live and alt tracks on the second discs.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 26, 2014 0:28:48 GMT -5
Holy cow! And Paul did a lot to promote New which I thought was cool. Remember in the 1970's with the exception of SOS which Wings toured to, Paul would just release an album, maybe do interviews with RS and Creem and maybe a press conference in L.A. and those albums would all go to #1 in the U.S. I checked the Billboard 200 last week and there are several Led Zeppelin albums in the Top 200. While that is cool, is there a reason for that? Is one of the band's songs on a popular new film soundtrack? The Eagles have at least two greatest hit comps in the Top 200. I suppose that is because they are touring. Zeppelin just released their first three remastered albums in two disc versions with live and alt tracks on the second discs. Thanks. I knew there had to be a reason that several albums of theirs were re-charting all of a sudden.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jul 27, 2014 15:31:46 GMT -5
Zeppelin just released their first three remastered albums in two disc versions with live and alt tracks on the second discs. Thanks. I knew there had to be a reason that several albums of theirs were re-charting all of a sudden. And the Zep albums did well in the charts, where McCartney's didn't.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 29, 2014 18:36:39 GMT -5
Thanks. I knew there had to be a reason that several albums of theirs were re-charting all of a sudden. And the Zep albums did well in the charts, where McCartney's didn't. Not really a fair comparison. Paul McCartney solo would be like releasing Robert Plant solo albums. Led Zeppelin as a group is another thing entirely -- plus the fact that Zep's albums have not been re-issued on Vinyl like this before.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 2, 2014 16:02:05 GMT -5
And the Zep albums did well in the charts, where McCartney's didn't. Not really a fair comparison. Paul McCartney solo would be like releasing Robert Plant solo albums. Led Zeppelin as a group is another thing entirely -- plus the fact that Zep's albums have not been re-issued on Vinyl like this before. It's much of the same target audience. And it's not like "NEW" was bad.
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