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Post by ursamajor on Sept 6, 2013 18:44:44 GMT -5
The new song reminds me of One More Kiss, I was humming New but then realised it was One More Kiss.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2013 5:55:12 GMT -5
I liked the "new" song on first listen but having downloaded the song and listened to it multiple times i'm not as wrapped in it as I was initially.
I don't really notice the horns like others do.. hence, I won't be slashing my wrists because they may not be real.
I don't like the ending
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Post by acebackwords on Sept 7, 2013 6:01:03 GMT -5
Yeah i found the ending a little anti-climactic myself. And Im not a big fan of mechanical hand clapping either.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Sept 7, 2013 10:50:53 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure when you die, they ask you if you believe Jesus Christ is the son of God. If you say yes, Allah sends you straight to hell. Following Christ is worse than being Jewish. Well almost as bad. You're not reading the Living Koran, are you Pepper? Be careful. Very, very careful.... what the f*ck debjorgo, really? You wanna stick by that quote?
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 7, 2013 11:26:05 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure when you die, they ask you if you believe Jesus Christ is the son of God. If you say yes, Allah sends you straight to hell. Following Christ is worse than being Jewish. Well almost as bad. You're not reading the Living Koran, are you Pepper? Be careful. Very, very careful.... what the f*ck debjorgo, really? You wanna stick by that quote? NO! NO! NO! Not at all! I'm just stating another view, somewhat akin to pepper's "you must believe in Christ to get into heaven". It's not my view at all, but it makes a lot of faithful followers tow the line. I'm just saying if you choose the wrong deity, you may be in just as much trouble or more. No. I am not an evil person. I thought everyone here would get it. I was raised a Christian. I certainly have nothing against Jewish people.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Sept 7, 2013 12:37:52 GMT -5
I'm glad, sorry that I interpreted your comments incorrectly.
I wish that pepper and others could discuss their religious, and political, views on appropriate forums... Not preach them on Beatles message boards. That's not why any of us come here. I believe.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Sept 7, 2013 12:45:16 GMT -5
Regarding "New", it is a catchy if unsubstantial ditty, like Coming Up or Dance Tonite. it sound like it would fit in well as a commercial for Target (in this case, that's a compliment). But what does everyone think of the vocals? I thought for recording Paul could sound less, well...old (no I'm not trying to be ageist). Do we like this vocal? I don't, I really think he can do better, maybe sing it in a lower key and varispeed it if he wanted to. That's what surprised me instantly, more than the cheesy synths. Good song, disappointing recording.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 7, 2013 14:53:46 GMT -5
Regarding "New", it is a catchy if unsubstantial ditty, like Coming Up or Dance Tonite. it sound like it would fit in well as a commercial for Target (in this case, that's a compliment). But what does everyone think of the vocals? I thought for recording Paul could sound less, well...old (no I'm not trying to be ageist). Do we like this vocal? I don't, I really think he can do better, maybe sing it in a lower key and varispeed it if he wanted to. That's what surprised me instantly, more than the cheesy synths. Good song, disappointing recording. I am disappointed in the vocal too, anyone. I think I have mentioned that. I realize EA has some years to it now but man Paul still sings up a storm on that album, "Sing The Changes" just beautiful vocally. I hate the musical backing to this new single. Fake, fake, fake. I really need to hear this song in better sonics as it still sounded so compressed on Sirius Satelitte Radio. Channel #28 The Spectrum(my favorite radio station of all time) was playing it a lot when I was on a 500 mile roadtrip last weekend. I haven't heard it though all week since.
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Post by sayne on Sept 7, 2013 18:25:43 GMT -5
The new song reminds me of One More Kiss . . . Penny Lane, for me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2013 19:51:33 GMT -5
I'm glad, sorry that I interpreted your comments incorrectly. I wish that pepper and others could discuss their religious, and political, views on appropriate forums... Not preach them on Beatles message boards. That's not why any of us come here. I believe. I'll second that statement anyoneanyhow
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Sept 7, 2013 21:24:19 GMT -5
Same label, John. Hear Music. And though I've been writing a lot about it, the publicity buzz is a little overwhelming for an album that doesn't have a title yet or an announced release date (though they appear to know). Thanks Steve! Is Hear Music a major label? Is it the Starbucks associated label "Memory Almost Full" was released on? I know Paul was furious with Capitol Records for not promoting "Chaos" better but I hope Hear Music is a major label. I think of Dylan and Springsteen still with Columbia Records and it kind of saddens me that Paul is with a newer, rather unknown label. I think of Ringo going to smaller and smaller labels in the late 1970's and on. This is Macca, he needs to be on a major label! They're part of Concord Music, so yeah they're fairly major, though I think he made a mistake leaving EMI especially since the UMS merger. And yeah, MAF was released on Hear, too.
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Post by sayne on Sept 7, 2013 23:29:16 GMT -5
. . . This is Macca, he needs to be on a major label! Why, so major labels can make money? Major labels are dead or dying. You don't need a major label for anything anymore. Not for marketing, recording, promotion, videos . . . nothing. You can record in your living, do your video on your IPhone, put it on YouTube, (if you're Paul, do the talk show circuit), get played on hundreds of cable and internet radio stations, have it sold on Amazon or ITunes, and so on. Going "indie" is THE smart thing to do. Majors are like print newspapers. Who needs 'em?
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Post by acebackwords on Sept 7, 2013 23:30:53 GMT -5
I'm glad, sorry that I interpreted your comments incorrectly. I wish that pepper and others could discuss their religious, and political, views on appropriate forums... Not preach them on Beatles message boards. That's not why any of us come here. I believe. I'll second that statement anyoneanyhow Yeah but dont forget, the Beatles, especially Lennon, were never shy about weighing in with their opinions on political, spiritual, cultural, sexual and racial issues. Its one of the reasons the Beatles transcended being mere pop stars. Its part of the Beatles canon. And its part of this message board.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 4:32:42 GMT -5
I'll second that statement anyoneanyhow Yeah but dont forget, the Beatles, especially Lennon, were never shy about weighing in with their opinions on political, spiritual, cultural, sexual and racial issues. Its one of the reasons the Beatles transcended being mere pop stars. Its part of the Beatles canon. And its part of this message board. If it's part of this message board then ask Steve to create a forum for it. Too many threads are getting hijacked with this "other stuff" .
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 8, 2013 6:58:05 GMT -5
Yeah but dont forget, the Beatles, especially Lennon, were never shy about weighing in with their opinions on political, spiritual, cultural, sexual and racial issues. Its one of the reasons the Beatles transcended being mere pop stars. Its part of the Beatles canon. And its part of this message board. If it's part of this message board then ask Steve to create a forum for it. Too many threads are getting hijacked with this "other stuff" . I certainly understand and agree to an extent -- however, the nature of conversation is that it tends to flow into different circles and branches off into different avenues. For example, we can begin with discussing John's solo albums, eventually wind up talking about SINYC, which in turn gets 'round to WOMAN IS THE NIGGER OF THE WORLD, and then the next thing you know we're discussing politics. Very boring is a thread which just says "I Like REVOLVER"... "Yes, so do I"... "Cool, so what is your favorite song!?"... -- and on and on and on. Very dull. But then perhaps you get around to discussing GOT TO GET YOU INTO MY LIFE, and someone says it's about marijuana -- and then from there we wind up talking about pot and whether we ought to legalize drugs (we shouldn't, by the way ) ....
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 8, 2013 8:47:40 GMT -5
I have yet to hear Paul's new song on the regular radio anywhere in the New York area. I mean, besides Rob Leonard's weekly "Beatles Songs" show on Friday nights. Rob plays the song NEW on his show at least three times every show, and I have heard it a lot now. I have basically come out in support of the song, but have maintained that I don't feel it is anything earth shattering, which is putting it mildly -- it really is by the numbers, and something Paul could dash off while eating a bowl of cereal for breakfast. The more I hear it, the more "ho-hum" I'm getting about it; it's nothing that is going to leave an impression.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Sept 8, 2013 9:37:17 GMT -5
This cover of Paul's new song shows he has witten another classic melody.
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Post by acebackwords on Sept 8, 2013 9:57:02 GMT -5
Nice post RTP. That sure highlights Paul's incredible gift for melody.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 8, 2013 11:29:12 GMT -5
RTP -- I have always felt that Paul is the all-time Greatest Songwriter, mainly due to his amazing gift for creating hundreds of catchy melodies. His song NEW is typically catchy and stays in the brain -- but let's be honest in that it's trite stuff, and nothing "profound"... just another knock-off from the Macca Cookie Cutting press. You still feel compelled to insist that everything Paul writes is somehow "Classic Gold"... one way or another.
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Post by acebackwords on Sept 8, 2013 12:39:58 GMT -5
Thank God we can get back to discussing Paul's new song after Fab Four and Anyoneanyhow briefly hijacked this thread.
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Post by acebackwords on Sept 8, 2013 12:40:26 GMT -5
Jes' kidding.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Sept 8, 2013 15:40:46 GMT -5
If it's part of this message board then ask Steve to create a forum for it. Too many threads are getting hijacked with this "other stuff" . I certainly understand and agree to an extent -- however, the nature of conversation is that it tends to flow into different circles and branches off into different avenues. For example, we can begin with discussing John's solo albums, eventually wind up talking about SINYC, which in turn gets 'round to WOMAN IS THE NIGGER OF THE WORLD, and then the next thing you know we're discussing politics. Very boring is a thread which just says "I Like REVOLVER"... "Yes, so do I"... "Cool, so what is your favorite song!?"... -- and on and on and on. Very dull. But then perhaps you get around to discussing GOT TO GET YOU INTO MY LIFE, and someone says it's about marijuana -- and then from there we wind up talking about pot and whether we ought to legalize drugs (we shouldn't, by the way ) .... When conversations move organically, you have a good conversation. When someone comes into a Beatle board with a pre-set agenda to preach a religious or a political view, let that person at least start a new thread. This wasn't an organic change, it was someone getting up in the morning with a determination to proselytize. But whatever.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 8, 2013 16:35:54 GMT -5
When conversations move organically, you have a good conversation. When someone comes into a Beatle board with a pre-set agenda to preach a religious or a political view, let that person at least start a new thread. This wasn't an organic change, it was someone getting up in the morning with a determination to proselytize. But whatever. A favorite bit of dialogue of mine, from the "zombie" movie DAY OF THE DEAD (1985), when the living dead are outnumbering the living and are taking over: John: I got an alternative, yeah, yeah, I got an alternative. Let's get in that old whirly-bird, find us an island some place, get juiced up and spend what time we got left soakin' up some sunshine! How's that?
Sarah: You could do that, couldn't you? With all thats going on, you could just do that without a second thought?
John: Shiiiiiit, I could do that even if all this *wasn't* going on!
Sarah: Maybe if we tried working together we could ease some of the tensions. We're all pulling in different directions.
John: That's the trouble with the world, Sarah darlin'. People got different ideas concernin' what they want out of life.My point being, everyone's different. And time and time again over the decade in which I have been participating on various message boards, we always have people saying they don't like this or that, or they want things run differently, or "whatever". Enough of this -- need more of that. Why does he or she do X or Y. If there is one thing I've learned it's that everyone is not a robot each programmed exactly the same way. So ok, maybe some people wake up determined to proselytize, but most do not. Whatever.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Sept 8, 2013 17:50:50 GMT -5
I agree, most of us want to share opinions. So I'm comfortable expressing my view that if we're not discussing Obama but you want to take a shot, start that thread. I fyou want to expound a view on abortion or womeen's rights or even which religion you subscribe to, go ahead, not in a snarky way in the middle of a discussion on the new song but start that thread and people will participate if they want to. You have the right to do it on any thread but you know it puts some people out, it's more considerate to start another thread. And that is my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Sept 8, 2013 19:44:20 GMT -5
RTP -- I have always felt that Paul is the all-time Greatest Songwriter, mainly due to his amazing gift for creating hundreds of catchy melodies. His song NEW is typically catchy and stays in the brain -- but let's be honest in that it's trite stuff, and nothing "profound"... just another knock-off from the Macca Cookie Cutting press. You still feel compelled to insist that everything Paul writes is somehow "Classic Gold"... one way or another. The level of ability to write a tune like that by definition would raise it above being trite. I might agree the lyrics aren't profound, but do they have to be for the song to be worthwhile? What is cookie cutter from Paul is nirvana to anyone else. Now if you are saying you wanted more from "New" lyrically, well there is really nothing "New" under the sun.
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Post by acebackwords on Sept 8, 2013 20:33:19 GMT -5
I remember this one message board I was on, these guys once went on and on (and on) for 3 or 4 pages arguing about how terrible it was when people hijacked a thread and took it off topic.
Ironic, no?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 9, 2013 5:39:41 GMT -5
The level of ability to write a tune like that by definition would raise it above being trite. I might agree the lyrics aren't profound, but do they have to be for the song to be worthwhile? What is cookie cutter from Paul is nirvana to anyone else. Now if you are saying you wanted more from "New" lyrically, well there is really nothing "New" under the sun. I still haven't heard a peep about this song that approaches "nirvana" for any other artist. If it weren't for this Beatles Board and a specially biased Beatles Radio Show I listen to, I wouldn't even be aware that this cute yet ultimately forgettable song even existed.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 9, 2013 5:42:58 GMT -5
I agree, most of us want to share opinions. So I'm comfortable expressing my view that if we're not discussing Obama but you want to take a shot, start that thread. I fyou want to expound a view on abortion or womeen's rights or even which religion you subscribe to, go ahead, not in a snarky way in the middle of a discussion on the new song but start that thread and people will participate if they want to. You have the right to do it on any thread but you know it puts some people out, it's more considerate to start another thread. And that is my opinion and I'm entitled to it. I don't recall now how the abortion thing got started, but it HAD to have started somehow emerging from the thread topic. If I wake up and decide I wish to discuss my views on Capital Punishment I am not going to go into an existing thread on Ringo's latest All-Starr Band Tour and start talking about it under a clear sky out of left field; there would have to have been some germ of it which began in the pre-existing discussion.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 9, 2013 5:44:30 GMT -5
I remember this one message board I was on, these guys once went on and on (and on) for 3 or 4 pages arguing about how terrible it was when people hijacked a thread and took it off topic. Ironic, no? Yes, and pretty funny. It's like when I complain and people whine to me about it. That's when I tell them "quit complaining about my complaining!".
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Sept 9, 2013 10:01:19 GMT -5
Let me add in a word that threads should stay relatively close to the topic on hand. Veering off into Obama or abortion discussions isn't a good idea, folks. As someone mentioned, start a thread in the off-topic board if you want to discuss that. But let's keep this thread about the McCartney album.
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