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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 3, 2011 8:51:50 GMT -5
...and what's with Patti & Bill Wymen at the London premiere? Are they an item or just catching up on old times? Yes, tell me more. Patti just wasn't impressed with what I could offer her in Logansport, Indiana. Come on Bill, Patti is much too old for you as you seem to like 13 or 14 year olds.
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Post by gloi on Oct 3, 2011 9:30:34 GMT -5
...and what's with Patti & Bill Wymen at the London premiere? Are they an item or just catching up on old times? Yes, tell me more. Patti just wasn't impressed with what I could offer her in Logansport, Indiana. Come on Bill, Patti is much too old for you as you seem to like 13 or 14 year olds. Sorry, I made an error (I'd just got up) It was Ronnie Wood that Patti was with, and he's the one with a history with her as far as I know.
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Post by lowbasso on Oct 3, 2011 12:21:09 GMT -5
Yes, tell me more. Patti just wasn't impressed with what I could offer her in Logansport, Indiana. Come on Bill, Patti is much too old for you as you seem to like 13 or 14 year olds. Sorry, I made an error (I'd just got up) It was Ronnie Wood that Patti was with, and he's the one with a history with her as far as I know. Has Ronnie written a song about her yet that the Stones can record?
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Post by lowbasso on Oct 3, 2011 12:27:37 GMT -5
The Scorcese film is playing tomorrow evening (Tues. 10/4) at a 6:30PM screening at Alice Tully Hall in Lincoln Ctr. NYC as part of The New York Film festival. The website says no tickets are available, so I assume it is sold out. But it did indicate "more tickets might become available." Does that mean standing room or possibly additional screenings?
Can't seem to find any other screenings of it in movie houses in the NYC area scheduled.
Anybody else have any big screen info on this film?? Pertaining to the USA area?
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Oct 3, 2011 23:26:55 GMT -5
Yes, tell me more. Patti just wasn't impressed with what I could offer her in Logansport, Indiana. Come on Bill, Patti is much too old for you as you seem to like 13 or 14 year olds. Sorry, I made an error (I'd just got up) It was Ronnie Wood that Patti was with, and he's the one with a history with her as far as I know. I recall Ronnie Wood showed up at the N.Y. Fest a couple of years ago when Pattie was there.
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Post by scousette on Oct 3, 2011 23:54:02 GMT -5
The Scorcese film is playing tomorrow evening (Tues. 10/4) at a 6:30PM screening at Alice Tully Hall in Lincoln Ctr. NYC as part of The New York Film festival. The website says no tickets are available, so I assume it is sold out. But it did indicate "more tickets might become available." Does that mean standing room or possibly additional screenings? Can't seem to find any other screenings of it in movie houses in the NYC area scheduled. Anybody else have any big screen info on this film?? Pertaining to the USA area? My guess would be standing room only. Your post is the first I've seen if any theatrical showings in the US.
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Post by lowbasso on Oct 4, 2011 13:53:04 GMT -5
Sorry, I made an error (I'd just got up) It was Ronnie Wood that Patti was with, and he's the one with a history with her as far as I know. I recall Ronnie Wood showed up at the N.Y. Fest a couple of years ago when Pattie was there. That is true. He popped in close to midnight on the Friday night of the Fest looking for Pattie.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Oct 4, 2011 14:22:51 GMT -5
The Scorcese film is playing tomorrow evening (Tues. 10/4) at a 6:30PM screening at Alice Tully Hall in Lincoln Ctr. NYC as part of The New York Film festival. The website says no tickets are available, so I assume it is sold out. But it did indicate "more tickets might become available." Does that mean standing room or possibly additional screenings? Can't seem to find any other screenings of it in movie houses in the NYC area scheduled. Anybody else have any big screen info on this film?? Pertaining to the USA area? My guess would be standing room only. Your post is the first I've seen if any theatrical showings in the US. There was one in Iowa over the weekend. Yes, Iowa.
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Post by scousette on Oct 4, 2011 14:31:31 GMT -5
My guess would be standing room only. Your post is the first I've seen if any theatrical showings in the US. There was one in Iowa over the weekend. Yes, Iowa. Was there a caucus? Straw poll?
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Post by scousette on Oct 4, 2011 15:11:29 GMT -5
Bill Wyman is unrecognizable.
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 4, 2011 16:08:35 GMT -5
Bill Wyman is unrecognizable. Was that at the George docu premier? I think "Uncle" Keith looks all warm and fuzzy in his old age: I can't believe Chicago didn't have a showing of the George documentary.
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Post by scousette on Oct 4, 2011 16:34:53 GMT -5
Yeha, that's Bill at the George premiere. Looks like he's tyring to be Bono's grandpa.
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Post by lowbasso on Oct 4, 2011 19:27:05 GMT -5
The Beatle "Family" at the Premiere Attachments:
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Post by lowbasso on Oct 4, 2011 19:28:11 GMT -5
Pattie & Ronnie at the Premiere (Sorry JSD ) Attachments:
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Post by mikev on Oct 4, 2011 21:28:26 GMT -5
Pattie & Ronnie at the Premiere (Sorry JSD ) Sorry JSD, but that schwing factor isn't quite there anymore, huh? There there-I went through it with Kathleen Turner ;D
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Post by mikev on Oct 4, 2011 21:30:42 GMT -5
The Beatle "Family" at the Premiere Hey Paul, what's with that sweepin hair look? Been hanging with Keith (Partridge)??
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Post by mikev on Oct 4, 2011 21:32:32 GMT -5
...and while I'm doing my best Don Rickles... Bill Wyman looks like a cross between Leornard Cohen and my 87 year old Uncle Merton...
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 4, 2011 23:12:27 GMT -5
Pattie & Ronnie at the Premiere (Sorry JSD ) Sorry JSD, but that schwing factor isn't quite there anymore, huh? There there-I went through it with Kathleen Turner ;D Thanks for sharing lowbasso. Patti is still a classy dame. I am writing a great love song for Patti that will rival "Something," "Layla" and "Wonderful Tonight." I don't have the melody yet and I don't have many lyrics yet but I have a title, "I'd Drink Your Bath Water, Babe." Mike, if Patti had a protective order slapped on you, you'd want her too! It is fun wanting something you can't have.
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 6, 2011 12:05:52 GMT -5
Is HBO scheduled to rebroadcast this two-part documentary soon? One option is get a promotion subcription and cancel after the broadcast and be billed in some pro rate manner. It is $10.00 a month with Comcast, my cable baron.
I could get it turned on tonight but I'll have missed half of it.
Anyone know if it is scheduled to be replayed shortly?
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Post by lowbasso on Oct 6, 2011 13:39:28 GMT -5
Is HBO scheduled to rebroadcast this two-part documentary soon? One option is get a promotion subcription and cancel after the broadcast and be billed in some pro rate manner. It is $10.00 a month with Comcast, my cable baron. I could get it turned on tonight but I'll have missed half of it. Anyone know if it is scheduled to be replayed shortly? HBO is replaying Part I tonite early before broadcasting Part 2. And they usually re-broadcast big events like this again in the near future. I've heard the DVD will be out in the US early in 2012. Earlier if some bootleggers get motivated....
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Post by scousette on Oct 6, 2011 13:48:09 GMT -5
John, you will just have to visit the HBO website and peruse the schedule for rebroadcast times. I have to report for jury duty in a bit so I can't help you out with this.
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Post by theman on Oct 6, 2011 15:36:15 GMT -5
I watched the first hour on HBOGo on my computer today at lunch. Quite frankly, I'm surprised that I'm finding it to be a bit dull. While there certainly is some unseen footage and photos which is kinda interesting, for the most part, I feel like I've heard it all before. Perhaps part II's focus will be more on George's solo career, which has NOT been beaten to death like the Beatles history and story.
However, my favorite moment, so far, is Paul giving George major props for his guitar part on "And I Love Her."
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 6, 2011 16:56:53 GMT -5
Is HBO scheduled to rebroadcast this two-part documentary soon? One option is get a promotion subcription and cancel after the broadcast and be billed in some pro rate manner. It is $10.00 a month with Comcast, my cable baron. I could get it turned on tonight but I'll have missed half of it. Anyone know if it is scheduled to be replayed shortly? HBO is replaying Part I tonite early before broadcasting Part 2. And they usually re-broadcast big events like this again in the near future. I've heard the DVD will be out in the US early in 2012. Earlier if some bootleggers get motivated.... You're the man lowbasso, thanks! Part 1 is being rebroadcast at 6:15 p.m tonight. I broke down and rented HBO for a month. I'll have lots of George tonight. Curl up with good lager, chase the wife upstairs and I'll watch some George in peace and love(by myself).
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Post by markc on Oct 6, 2011 17:12:00 GMT -5
Amazing footage of George and Paul signing the dissolution papers. Can't believe Paul brought up the Hey Jude guitar riff spat AGAIN.
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Post by debjorgo on Oct 6, 2011 17:54:17 GMT -5
My favorite part in it was Clapton, saying what he envied about George in the early days. He said something like he envied his money, his fame and that he was in the Beatles, he said with a laugh. He was admitting that he, like most young guys in the sixties, would have loved to be in the Beatles.
I'd always had the impression that he was a little snooty about the Beatles, that they weren't blues enough to be legit.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Oct 7, 2011 9:27:02 GMT -5
My favorite part in it was Clapton, saying what he envied about George in the early days. He said something like he envied his money, his fame and that he was in the Beatles, he said with a laugh. He was admitting that he, like most young guys in the sixties, would have loved to be in the Beatles. I'd always had the impression that he was a little snooty about the Beatles, that they weren't blues enough to be legit. It is a really interesting 3 hours and 45 minutes. I found most of it facinating. It gave me a renewed appreciation of George. Speaking of Clapton, I like the way he discribed the Beatles in 1968 when doing While My Guitar Gently Weeps. He noticed they had changed quite a bit from the early days and he meant in a positive way. He talks about how impressed he was with them recording the song--the great harmony vocals, Paul on piano, great song, all playing together live (in the studio) in real time --they apparently left a lasting impression on him. I guess he thought they were track everything. I think at that time (1968-1969) Eric would have joined the group in a flash. I wish they would have seriously asked them. It might have kept them together. I just don't know if George would have felt like the odd man out. But it would have relieved him from his rock guitar role. He could have relaxed and concentrated on his songwriting etc. In fact, that might have been a way for them to feel more comfortable doing live performances. Eric could have done all the guitar parts George didn't feel like recreating on stage. And all of Paul's guitar contributions could have been picked up by Eric and Paul could concentrate on piano and bass even switching them off with George on certain songs. Think of what kind of concert that would have been. And the Beatles could have done Layla!!! Talk about a supergroup. Its not so unprecidented. Think of Mick Taylor and all he contributed to the Rolling Stones. Also, Eric would have acted as a buffer between the warring factions in the Beatles (mainly John and Paul and George).
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 7, 2011 9:35:12 GMT -5
Possible spoiler alert
Part 1 of LITMW covers The Beatles years up to about The White Album and it is surprisingly disappointing except for some cool photographs and some film footage stuffed in between the typical Anthology-like interviews.
Frankly, the story told in Part 1 often forgets George Harrison! There was too much Lennon/McCartney music being played as live versions of "You Can't Do That" and "I Saw Her Standing There" go through what seemed a never ending tape-loop!
Part 1 is Anthology-Lite and it added nothing to our understanding of George in that era. Patti Boyd is interviewed towards the end of Part 1 and says a whole bunch of nothing. Her best part is either in Part 1 or Part 2 where she must be reading from her book. Her filmed interview on the show was eye-candy only. Maybe just like Patti herself.
It was a hoot seeing the older Harrison boys, Peter and Harry, interviewed! I need to research whether both or one is dead so I don't know when these interviews were filmed but the guys are old men but pretty cool! I liked those old codgers!
Sister Louise Harrison is seen in some old photos but is nowhere to be found interviewed or otherwise heard in the film. Zero. Believe me, I have seen her talk on more than one occasion and her absence is not by her doing. Louise would narrate the whole film if she had her way. She was shut out of any contemporary appearances in the film.
I agree with theman that Part 1 was almost boring. I thought that the story of George Harrison got lost in Part 1. Maybe even a film of just John or Paul would lose focus on them during The Beatles years because The Beatles were so big and a collective whole.
Part 2 was better but don't expect a chronological telling of George's solo years. I think the only solo albums that are mentioned by name or images of such are ATMP, LITMW and Dark Horse. None of the others are mentioned or shown and no music from any other solo album is heard except the end from "Brainwashed."
As always with any recounting with George, the music comes from mostly ATMP and there are some very cool alternate takes heard on the soundtrack. Totally pre-Wall of Sound. Speaking of which, we see and hear from a very bizarre looking Phil Spector. He is part of the story but man is he a creep!
There are again cool photos and even more film clips but I find it a tease, right when a film clip gets good, it is off to the next bit. The video footage from 1974 was cool and shows the highs and lows of that tour: George sizzles hot on the song "Dark Horse" but "What Is Life" not so good with George and Billy Preston doing a "call and response" thing with vocals that frankly blows. The song arrangements were what was so bad on that tour it seems.
The end is very moving as Steve Marinucci warned us and some of the speakers will have you in tears but not Paul McCartney, his big final thought was surprisingly devoid of emotion and thought, sounded like a Hallmark card text.
Ringo is very moving at the end(and pretty cool throughout) but what's up with his hair! It is in a "Mini-Beatles Mop-Top" and dyed darker than Paul's hair! It is like a bowl-cut that is just starting. Go back to the closely cropped hair Ringo, you look dignified and stately with short hair, don't go doing a Paul on us. Paul in the film looks his most Angela Lansbury.
Eric Clapton is okay but that is high praise from me because I normally hate his guts(and music) for his hurting Patti.
There may be peace between Paul and Yoko(see photos Steve posted on Examiner from film premier) but Yoko gets some digs in like her comment on Paul getting all the "A Sides" and how John "always" stayed so close to George(which we know is not true post Bangladesh).
I found the talk on "My Sweet Lord" interesting as Spector, George's voice from an interview and other speakers focus on how gutsy it was for George to release a single about God as that could have wiped out George's career as a "cool" rock star. Spector probably truthfully claims credit for it being the single.
That bravery about singing about God is true but what no one mentions is the other huge problem with MSL and that was the close similarity to "He's So Fine." That hurt George's career much more than wearing his heart on his sleeve about God. The lawsuit never mentioned.
Again, this is not like Anthology where it goes from George solo album to solo album one by one or covers other events in George's life.
We have Jackie Stewart and one of the Python guy talking and suddenly photos of baby Dhani appear so the viewer must surmise on his or her own that, "Ahh, now George and Olivia have a child." Very subtle telling of the story rather broadly.
Olivia and Dhani come off good on camera. Engaging and interesting. Dhani had some good anecdotes that made me laugh out loud.
Part 2 gets closer to helping us learn who George really was but I am not sure the film as a whole gets as close as it could have. I urge all to hunt it down and watch it someday, whether on HBO or when the dvd comes out because there was enough to keep me glued but afterwards I felt that the film did not entirely work.
I'd rate it 7 1/2 out of 10 stars.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Oct 7, 2011 9:39:43 GMT -5
The Harrison brothers are both still alive and kicking based on what I have heard relating to this film. Maybe I'm wrong. Good reveiw John, though I think I liked the film more than you.
I would like to see Scorsese make another film following all four of the Beatles into their solo career with a little Beatles history at the beginning. That would be facinating. I wonder if Paul had any conversatoins with him about it.
Louise's son (George's nephew) Gordon died last year of colon cancer. She is 81 years old now. Maybe she just wasn't available or able to do it.
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Post by mikev on Oct 7, 2011 11:47:40 GMT -5
My favorite part in it was Clapton, saying what he envied about George in the early days. He said something like he envied his money, his fame and that he was in the Beatles, he said with a laugh. He was admitting that he, like most young guys in the sixties, would have loved to be in the Beatles. I'd always had the impression that he was a little snooty about the Beatles, that they weren't blues enough to be legit. It is a really interesting 3 hours and 45 minutes. I found most of it facinating. It gave me a renewed appreciation of George. Speaking of Clapton, I like the way he discribed the Beatles in 1968 when doing While My Guitar Gently Weeps. He noticed they had changed quite a bit from the early days and he meant in a positive way. He talks about how impressed he was with them recording the song--the great harmony vocals, Paul on piano, great song, all playing together live (in the studio) in real time --they apparently left a lasting impression on him. I guess he thought they were track everything. I think at that time (1968-1969) Eric would have joined the group in a flash. I wish they would have seriously asked them. It might have kept them together. I just don't know if George would have felt like the odd man out. But it would have relieved him from his rock guitar role. He could have relaxed and concentrated on his songwriting etc. In fact, that might have been a way for them to feel more comfortable doing live performances. Eric could have done all the guitar parts George didn't feel like recreating on stage. And all of Paul's guitar contributions could have been picked up by Eric and Paul could concentrate on piano and bass even switching them off with George on certain songs. Think of what kind of concert that would have been. And the Beatles could have done Layla!!! Talk about a supergroup. Its not so unprecidented. Think of Mick Taylor and all he contributed to the Rolling Stones. Also, Eric would have acted as a buffer between the warring factions in the Beatles (mainly John and Paul and George). I've said it before. The Beatles could have reinvented themselves again around 1969 with an ensemble including Preston and Clapton. Harrison could shift to bass/rhythm, Paul bass/piano with Preston on organ. Then they could have had that live archive from the late period so desperately missing other than the roof-top. Let 'em all sing too- Billy and Eric. The Quarrymen Ensemble. The first supergroup. Maybe in that parallel universe on Fringe.
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Post by scousette on Oct 7, 2011 12:09:30 GMT -5
Peter Harrison died in 2007. Terry Sylvester of the Swinging Blue Jeans and then the Hollies was his apprentice panel beater (that's auto body guy to us Americans). www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/views/obituaries/2007/07/23/peter-harrison-64375-19499100/Lots of folks (not here necessarily, but in other online fora) are disappointed that this documentary wasn't a 3 hour music video. This film was about George the person, and obviously includes his music, but Hari was more than a Beatle and a guitarist/singer/songwriter. The documentary showed his career in the entertainment industry but also spent a good deal of time exploring his spiritual quest, which as we know was probably George's most important journey. I too felt at times that the film moved slowly and was on the verge of getting boring. Not good for this George fan! Ultimately, I was pleased with the production. The ending was very moving. Leg-End has it that George and Louise reconciled on his deathbed. That may be so but she is not in this documentary and I'm sure that was deliberate. Her former neighbor in Benton, Illinois has some not-so nice things to say about Louise being jealous of George's fame and talent and trying to hog his spotlight. I'm glad we have this chronicle of George on film. Let's see if it wins any Emmys.
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