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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 21, 2016 16:57:19 GMT -5
The Post-JSD Pure McCartney Countdown Roll Call
John S. Damm: Purchased it through amazon.com at the superb price of $31.68; have not had 4 1/2 hours at once to play it all in one sitting; although I lament the absence of the entire Wings Wild Life album here(the songs could be spread out), the absence of any songs from FITD and DR, and other critical omissions, I recognize this Solo career spanning compilation comprising of songs curated by Paul McCartney himself to be the greatest "Road-trip" album ever! When I next drive to Boston from Logansport, you know what I'll be trucking to for 4 1/2 hours on that highway!
KC: I bought the 2CD version on release day in-store, but couldn’t see the 4CD version in any of the several places I visited that day, so I got it from Amazon. Interestingly, I paid for expediated postage to get it quicker and still paid a bit less than what it would have cost in a shop here.
I haven’t played the box all the way through. That’s just not the way I approach this sort of release. One disc at a time is about all I will bother with.
As I’ve previously indicated, I think the 4CD box set could have been better. I would have left off a few of the songs, such as Bip Bop, Warm And Beautiful and Girlfriend, replacing them with personal favourites. However, I don’t want to sound too critical. I think that overall this release is very good. I’ve been waiting a long time to finally be able to buy an extended career spanning Paul McCartney best of set, which is how I see Pure McCartney, not as just a road trip mix tape.
If I had assembled the box the songs would be arranged chronologically. I figure we have been able to program track listing ourselves for a long time now. However, I know Paul McCartney does not share my view on this: Wings Greatest, All The Best and Wingspan are all jumbled as well.
Four discs is a common format for box sets, but the scope is there for an even more comprehensive set. With extra space I would have included missing hits and more of the widely acknowledged better album cuts. I probably would have incorporated a few rarities consisting of B-sides and unreleased material. On reflection though, I’m not completely sure I would go down that path. Paul has so much of this type of material that a separate box set altogether might be the way to go. Maybe the best option would have been a five disc Pure McCartney, a multi disc set of studio rarities and another of live material?
Debjorgo: Did not buy. Still have not listened to it.
MikeV: "Looked in my wallet...$32 still there....deleted same set I loaded up in a few minutes from ipod for occasional boredoms and fast forwards.
Replaced on ipod with John and Yoko Life with the Lions CD special addition with bonus audio footage of Yoko farts and John passing a kidney stone."
vectisfabber: I am now too old and, given the amount of money of mine which has gone into McCartney's pockets over the years, far too mean to buy 4 sodding CDs of stuff I've already got. This pointless release actually makes me quite angry, given the amount of good unreleased stuff which remains in McCartney's vaults.
Joey Self: I haven't bought it, and never for a minute thought about buying it. Why would I? If I want a 4 disc McCartney hodgepodge disc, I'll make one for myself--and it won't have "My Love" or "Ebony and Ivory" or "Winedark Open Sea" or "Girlfriend" or "Souvenir" or...any of several others.
Lowbasso: Ditto what Joey Self said;I haven't bought it, and never for a minute thought about buying it. Why would I? If I want a 4 disc McCartney hodgepodge disc, I'll make one for myself--
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Post by debjorgo on Jun 21, 2016 22:51:23 GMT -5
I almost cracked. I was looking at Billboards latest chart and saw Pure McCartney debuted at 43. Not that great. But two spots above it was The Beatles 1, moved up 76 spots. If the Pure release was generating more interest in the Beatles, maybe I should show support.
I got on amazon's bookmarked page for the set but down below I saw the recommendations. The was the two disc Tug of War. Now I already have this, along with the archive book. But by-golly, I'd rather have another copy of it than to have Pure McCartney. I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, just being honest.
I got up and pulled my Tug of War two disc version to see if I wanted another copy. But you know, it's not as shiny as I remembered it. Why doesn't it have the glossy finish like the LP?
You know, I got the Beatles 1 blu-ray disc version. I don't have an actual copy of Beatles 1. Maybe that's what I need to get.
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Post by Panther on Jun 22, 2016 0:42:00 GMT -5
As Frankie Goes to Hollywood once said: "Relax, don't do it."
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Post by sallyg on Jun 26, 2016 4:56:06 GMT -5
Haven't bought it yet. Maybe I will eventually. Right now it's not a priority.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 26, 2016 22:37:13 GMT -5
Haven't bought it yet. Maybe I will eventually. Right now it's not a priority. I am a little surprised that you didn't buy it Sally but that is okay! I understand that there are no new songs on it and some glaring omissions that hurt it. I have been exploring in-depth "Winedark Open Sea" which is from 1993's Off The Ground and while I agree with its inclusion on the 4 Disc set, how in the world did "Hope Of Deliverance" and the title song "Off The Ground" get omitted?! "Peace In The Neighborhood" is another killer deep-cut from OTG that could have been included. Time to revise the Roll Call!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 26, 2016 22:40:02 GMT -5
The Post-JSD Pure McCartney Countdown Roll Call
John S. Damm: Purchased it through amazon.com at the superb price of $31.68; have not had 4 1/2 hours at once to play it all in one sitting; although I lament the absence of the entire Wings Wild Life album here(the songs could be spread out), the absence of any songs from FITD and DR, and other critical omissions, I recognize this Solo career spanning compilation comprising of songs curated by Paul McCartney himself to be the greatest "Road-trip" album ever! When I next drive to Boston from Logansport, you know what I'll be trucking to for 4 1/2 hours on that highway!
KC: I bought the 2CD version on release day in-store, but couldn’t see the 4CD version in any of the several places I visited that day, so I got it from Amazon. Interestingly, I paid for expediated postage to get it quicker and still paid a bit less than what it would have cost in a shop here.
I haven’t played the box all the way through. That’s just not the way I approach this sort of release. One disc at a time is about all I will bother with.
As I’ve previously indicated, I think the 4CD box set could have been better. I would have left off a few of the songs, such as Bip Bop, Warm And Beautiful and Girlfriend, replacing them with personal favourites. However, I don’t want to sound too critical. I think that overall this release is very good. I’ve been waiting a long time to finally be able to buy an extended career spanning Paul McCartney best of set, which is how I see Pure McCartney, not as just a road trip mix tape.
If I had assembled the box the songs would be arranged chronologically. I figure we have been able to program track listing ourselves for a long time now. However, I know Paul McCartney does not share my view on this: Wings Greatest, All The Best and Wingspan are all jumbled as well.
Four discs is a common format for box sets, but the scope is there for an even more comprehensive set. With extra space I would have included missing hits and more of the widely acknowledged better album cuts. I probably would have incorporated a few rarities consisting of B-sides and unreleased material. On reflection though, I’m not completely sure I would go down that path. Paul has so much of this type of material that a separate box set altogether might be the way to go. Maybe the best option would have been a five disc Pure McCartney, a multi disc set of studio rarities and another of live material?
Debjorgo: Did not buy. Still have not listened to it.
MikeV: "Looked in my wallet...$32 still there....deleted same set I loaded up in a few minutes from ipod for occasional boredoms and fast forwards.
Replaced on ipod with John and Yoko Life with the Lions CD special addition with bonus audio footage of Yoko farts and John passing a kidney stone."
vectisfabber: I am now too old and, given the amount of money of mine which has gone into McCartney's pockets over the years, far too mean to buy 4 sodding CDs of stuff I've already got. This pointless release actually makes me quite angry, given the amount of good unreleased stuff which remains in McCartney's vaults.
Joey Self: I haven't bought it, and never for a minute thought about buying it. Why would I? If I want a 4 disc McCartney hodgepodge disc, I'll make one for myself--and it won't have "My Love" or "Ebony and Ivory" or "Winedark Open Sea" or "Girlfriend" or "Souvenir" or...any of several others.
Lowbasso: Ditto what Joey Self said;I haven't bought it, and never for a minute thought about buying it. Why would I? If I want a 4 disc McCartney hodgepodge disc, I'll make one for myself--
SallyG: Haven't bought it yet. Maybe I will eventually. Right now it's not a priority.
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Post by kc on Jun 26, 2016 23:50:48 GMT -5
I almost cracked. I was looking at Billboards latest chart and saw Pure McCartney debuted at 43. Not that great. But two spots above it was The Beatles 1, moved up 76 spots. If the Pure release was generating more interest in the Beatles, maybe I should show support. Billboard actually revised that Billboard 200 list. They had the versions of Pure McCartney listed separately, but now it is all combined. By memory, I think it is now listed as debuted at #15.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 4:09:32 GMT -5
I've got the 4 disc deluxe Pure McCartney. I've played it right through about 8 times but i've now parked it so that i can listen to the hits of Engelbert Humperdinck and Tom Jones.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 27, 2016 15:35:44 GMT -5
I almost cracked. I was looking at Billboards latest chart and saw Pure McCartney debuted at 43. Not that great. But two spots above it was The Beatles 1, moved up 76 spots. If the Pure release was generating more interest in the Beatles, maybe I should show support. Billboard actually revised that Billboard 200 list. They had the versions of Pure McCartney listed separately, but now it is all combined. By memory, I think it is now listed as debuted at #15. Yes, it is true! Billboard 200 has Pure McCartney, a solo compilation of McCartney songs curated by Paul himself, at #15! That sure makes my day! Of course, I look for it to be #1 next week! Let's get it there Paul McCartney lovers!
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Post by kc on Jun 28, 2016 19:06:59 GMT -5
I've got the 4 disc deluxe Pure McCartney. I've played it right through about 8 times but i've now parked it so that i can listen to the hits of Engelbert Humperdinck and Tom Jones. Hey, fabfour, did you buy your 4CD set in a shop, or get it online? It's almost three weeks after global release date and I still haven't seen the CD box set in any Adelaide stores. Got mine online.
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Post by debjorgo on Jun 28, 2016 23:21:39 GMT -5
I've got the 4 disc deluxe Pure McCartney. I've played it right through about 8 times but i've now parked it so that i can listen to the hits of Engelbert Humperdinck and Tom Jones. Hey, fabfour, did you buy your 4CD set in a shop, or get it online? It's almost three weeks after global release date and I still haven't seen the CD box set in any Adelaide stores. Got mine online. I'm not sure but I think I detect a little irony in fabs' post. My question would be, I don't care about the Engelbert but how many discs are in the Tom Jones set? I have a one disc set and it seems a little weak.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 4:08:51 GMT -5
I've got the 4 disc deluxe Pure McCartney. I've played it right through about 8 times but i've now parked it so that i can listen to the hits of Engelbert Humperdinck and Tom Jones. Hey, fabfour, did you buy your 4CD set in a shop, or get it online? It's almost three weeks after global release date and I still haven't seen the CD box set in any Adelaide stores. Got mine online. JB HIFI in Melbourne got it in for me.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 8, 2016 13:40:41 GMT -5
Okay, my 4 CD version of Pure McCartney arrived day of release, June 10, 2016. I never had time to play it as it is 4.5 hours of music personally curated by Paul himself!
But over the long Fourth of July weekend, I hit the road for Plymouth Massachusetts where my step-son and family live. On the way back west to Indiana, I played all four Discs in a row and Pure McCartney is indeed a superb highway album, a must have for anyone doing serious driving and want music that will lighten the load!
Paul succeeded wonderfully in creating a "road-trip" compilation! Hooray Paul!
On the not so positive side, there are too many gaps, holes and just poor selections to make this the definitive compilation for Mr. McCartney! I will probably never play this at home, just on the road!
A definitive solo McCartney Comp would have to be at least 6 Discs long and have 3 to 4 songs from every McCartney/Wings solo album! Heck, albums like Wings Wild Life and Off The Ground are represented on PM but neither's best tracks appear!
If you are travelling far, Pure McCartney is a winner! If you want the definitive McCartney solo collection from every facet of Paul's solo career, don't turn to Pure McCartney.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 8, 2016 18:54:08 GMT -5
Okay, these are my quick thoughts on PM as is:
DISC 1: 1. Maybe I'm Amazed: majestic start, I was 75 miles west of Plymouth Mass. when I started P.M. 2. Heart Of The Country: great track 2; Postulate Era songs together cheer me up. Sonics were amazing on Tracks 1 & 2. 3. Jet: The song is great but I noticed immediately the sonics are not nearly as good as Tracks 1 & 2 even though this is remastered. It has that "dead" Abbey Road EMI sound thanke to Geoff Emerick's presence on the recording. Sounded very dated compared to Tracks 1 & 2. 4. Warm And Beautiful: Strange placement but part of the fun to hear this. This is fairly obscure for Paul. Amazing sonics, not crappy like "Jet." 5. Listen To What The Man Said: Great fun, good sonics, made the drive better! 6. Dear Boy: Awesome, I was really delighted when this kicked on. 7. Silly Love Songs: Great sonics, I enjoyed it. 8. The Song We Were Singing: Sonics not great but a good song, I was glad to hear it. 9. Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey: great sonics, great road song. 10. Early Days: It was startling to jump to Paul's "Old Man Voice" but the song was good. But why is Paul so defensive? "Who" is going to take his legacy from him? 11. Big Barn Bed: Awesome, I don't think this is 2016 remastered but it sounded great. Go Henry Mac! 12. Another Day: I enjoyed it, I don't always but it was a beautiful evening in the hills of Western Mass. 13. Flaming Pie: This is good when the album version(which this is) but sucks huge ones live. This song never got crowd enthusiasm when done live. 14. Jenny Wren: Sounded good. 15. Too Many People: Awesome! 16. Let Me Roll It: Great! 17. New: This sounded really good in this spot! I was surprised how much I liked this song when among other "tested" Paul classics. Don't look at me! DISC 2: 1. Live and Let Die: Really good sonics, we all know this tune. 2. English Tea: A nice quirky follow-up, not remastered I think. 3. Mull of Kintyre: sounded great, Emma and I sang along and giggled at each other when the song was done. 4. Save Us: Perfunctory, not a high spot on PM. 5. My Love: I hear the passion. Thank you Henry for a wonderful solo 6. Bip Bop: Was greatly appreciated by me. Sounded good, wish "Mumbo" was included. 7. Let 'Em In: kind of a letdown, not a highpoint for me. 8. Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five: This picked up the pace. 9. Calico Skies: This was a highlight, I played it twice. Not remastered from what I could tell. But it was great! 10. Hi, Hi, Hi: This was good. 11. Waterfalls: I thought that was a good segue from HHH. 12. Band on the Run: Great sonics, this is a classic! 13. Appreciate: Weird choice. I don't hate this but I thought the opening note signaled that we were hearing "Figure Of Eight." 14. Sing The Changes: Great selection, I was moved. 15. Arrow Through Me: I enjoyed this placement here. 16. Every Night: Classic, was glad when it popped on. 17. Junior’s Farm: Killer but should have finished the Disc. 18. Mrs Vandebilt: Okay, anti-climatic after JF! DISC 3: 1. Say Say Say [2015 Remix]: Don't care for this mix, wish we got the original SSS. 2. My Valentine: Is still incredibly boring even in better company. 3. Pipes of Peace: Okay. 4. The World Tonight: Sounded good but I don't think remastered. 5. Souvenir: I like this song, not remastered. 6. Dance Tonight: I loved this. Forgotten classic. I was glad to hear this! 7. Ebony and Ivory: I groaned when I heard this! But it was okay, just slows things down after the party inducing "Dance Tonight." 8. Fine Line: Good. 9. Here Today: Good 10. Press: I was glad to hear this, it was good. 11. Wanderlust: a great song, I played it twice. 12. Winedark Open Sea: Was glad to hear this one! 13. Beautiful Night: Loved it placed here. I cranked this. 14. Girlfriend: Weaker moment. 15. Queenie Eye: Okay, not a stand-out. Whereas I thought the song "New" sounded awesome when surrounded by Paul's older songs, I thought "Queenie Eye" was cooler in the context of the album New. 16. We All Stand Together: Not a highlight and I don't hate this song. DISC 4: 1. Coming Up: Never a favorite of mine but this was okay as I tooled down the freeway. Some think the live version from 1980 should have been used. I am not sure about that. 2. Too Much Rain: I love this song but the context was weird here coming after "Coming Up." I like it better in the context of "Chaos." Still, I was happy to have an old friend here. 3. Good Times Coming / Feel the Sun: Surprisingly I thought this worked very well after "Too Much Rain!" 4. Goodnight Tonight: This was okay here, I sang along. 5. Baby’s Request: Not my favorite but I thought it fit well and a little groove was going down here. 6. With a Little Luck: This was nice, I thought of friends in my life when this was a #1 song. 7. Little Willow: Major, I played this three times in a row before moving on. I was very moved by it. 8. Only Mama Knows: I must say this took some air out of my feel good moment. This isn't bad but I can't relate to the story. Paul was not an abandoned baby so I don't relate to this fictional song. 9. Don’t Let it Bring You Down: Very cool and subtle, restored my faith in life. 10. The Back Seat Of My Car: Oh my God, I shouted for joy when this came on, a Macca fav of mine! I went off cruise control and drove 10 mph faster during it! 11. No More Lonely Nights: Awesome, damn does this sound good in 2016! 12. Great Day: I like this little ditty that Linda so loved. 13. Venus and Mars / Rock Show: it was getting dark in middle New York when this came on so it was cool! But to my horror, it is the edited "Rock Show!" 14. Temporary Secretary: I did not jump for joy when I heard those obnoxious opening notes. 15. Hope For The Future: Okay, man I wished this was "Hope Of Deliverance" instead! 16. Junk: A great poignant ending. I was sad because I knew this was the last song.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 9, 2016 5:20:48 GMT -5
13. Flaming Pie: This is good when the album version(which this is) but sucks huge ones live. This song never got crowd enthusiasm when done live. Not true. Check out the performance from THE SPACE WITHIN. The crowd was dancing and joining in with this song. I recently re-watched the DVD and it was one of the things that stood out to me.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 10, 2016 12:52:14 GMT -5
Not wherever I saw it done live. "Flaming Puss" was a pace killer. Mass exodus to the bathrooms and beer vendors. It was as bad as "Coming Up" or "C Moon." I suppose when releasing a documentary Paul could find one arena where one little corner had people moving about. The problem was, the subway Macca fans quit buying Paul albums after Back To The Egg, and I don't think they even bought that as it tanked on the charts, so they had no idea what "Flaming Pie" was! I love the studio version of "Flaming Pie" but wherever I saw it live it was look out or get run over to the exits. Paul never did it live with half the gusto of the record. Here is Paul putting them to sleep with "Flaming Pie" at the Glastonbury Music Festival 2004 and that crowd was always rowdy until that song, half-hearted response at best. Paul still sounded great live in 2004 unlike today.
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Post by lowbasso on Jul 10, 2016 17:01:27 GMT -5
Not wherever I saw it done live. "Flaming Puss" was a pace killer. Mass exodus to the bathrooms and beer vendors. It was as bad as "Coming Up" or "C Moon." I suppose when releasing a documentary Paul could find one arena where one little corner had people moving about. The problem was, the subway Macca fans quit buying Paul albums after Back To The Egg, and I don't think they even bought that as it tanked on the charts, so they had no idea what "Flaming Pie" was! I love the studio version of "Flaming Pie" but wherever I saw it live it was look out or get run over to the exits. Paul never did it live with half the gusto of the record. Here is Paul putting them to sleep with "Flaming Pie" at the Glastonbury Music Festival 2004 and that crowd was always rowdy until that song, half-hearted response at best. Paul still sounded great live in 2004 unlike today. 2004 was 12 years ago. Paul was 62 years old. Now he is 74. Yes, singing over 50 concerts a year that are three hours+ long with no break for 12 years while in your 60's and 70's will blow your voice out or what is left of it. He has been singing rock music since 1957. Almost 60 years. His voice should sound ragged and blown out. Tony Bennett did not sing the same rep or as often as Paul. That is why he can still sing into his late 80's. Would any of you still shell out $200 or more a ticket to hear Paul croak out Beatle songs in too high keys anymore. I would not. I can be happy with the records now. Start writing more now Paul. For other artists and projects. Produce recordings. Write musicals. Co-write with other legends. Oh sorry. I forgot. Your ego won't allow that. Well. Thanks for the memories. You are one of the greatest musicians and song writers ever. Is that not enough? Then you can never be satisfied. I feel sorry for you.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 10, 2016 18:13:02 GMT -5
2004 was 12 years ago. Paul was 62 years old. Now he is 74. Yes, singing over 50 concerts a year that are three hours+ long with no break for 12 years while in your 60's and 70's will blow your voice out or what is left of it. He has been singing rock music since 1957. Almost 60 years. His voice should sound ragged and blown out. Tony Bennett did not sing the same rep or as often as Paul. That is why he can still sing into his late 80's. Would any of you still shell out $200 or more a ticket to hear Paul croak out Beatle songs in too high keys anymore. I would not. I can be happy with the records now. Start writing more now Paul. For other artists and projects. Produce recordings. Write musicals. Co-write with other legends. Oh sorry. I forgot. Your ego won't allow that. Well. Thanks for the memories. You are one of the greatest musicians and song writers ever. Is that not enough? Then you can never be satisfied. I feel sorry for you. I know where you're coming from here, lowbasso. I have been wondering at what point -- IF EVER? -- Paul would reach "The End", where he really has no voice. I have thought the time arrived several times in past years, but he always came back and surprised me again. But this just doesn't seem to be getting better anymore.. I fear the time is here, and Paul really should concentrate on just making new records (or whatever else) and give up public performances. (Though I am not a fan of faking records with autotune and stuff, at least studio trickery can help). If he lets it go too far with live performing he is going to be humiliated to the point of no return. Yet I AM scheduled to see him on August 7th at METLIFE stadium in New Jersey. Why? Well, mainly because my girlfriend and I have not ever seen a Paul show together, and this could be our very last opportunity to do so. Neither of us is expecting a good vocal performance, just to be in the same arena with our former Beatle and have a good time, come what may.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 10, 2016 18:16:15 GMT -5
Not wherever I saw it done live. "Flaming Puss" was a pace killer. Mass exodus to the bathrooms and beer vendors. It was as bad as "Coming Up" or "C Moon." COMING UP is a great live song, and the live version actually made #1. So I disagree there. You want to really see the bathrooms get jammed up at the same time? Imagine Paul doing a song from WILD LIFE!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 10, 2016 20:00:39 GMT -5
Not wherever I saw it done live. "Flaming Puss" was a pace killer. Mass exodus to the bathrooms and beer vendors. It was as bad as "Coming Up" or "C Moon." COMING UP is a great live song, and the live version actually made #1. So I disagree there. You want to really see the bathrooms get jammed up at the same time? Imagine Paul doing a song from WILD LIFE! If only Paul would do the 1980 live arrangement! The 1989/1990 "Techno version" with "Master Chris Whitten on drums" was boring and actually bizarre with Linda screaming "Yeah" out of synch with the music! Joe, we saw different concerts. In the Chicago, Columbus OH, Indianapolis IN areas where I saw a lot of concerts from 1989/1990 up to 2013, "Flaming Pie" and "Coming Up" were not anyone's highlights: it was always Beatles' greatest hits and Wings greatest hits. If Paul did "Mumbo" the place would go f_ck_ng nuts and the atmosphere would be like a real rock concert and not a Yuppie-brunch of mostly rich, old, white, subway Paul fans there in their corporate box seats rattling their jewelry!
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Post by kc on Jul 11, 2016 1:06:04 GMT -5
Paul still sounded great live in 2004 unlike today. 2004 was 12 years ago. Paul was 62 years old. Now he is 74. Yes, singing over 50 concerts a year that are three hours+ long with no break for 12 years while in your 60's and 70's will blow your voice out or what is left of it. He has been singing rock music since 1957. Almost 60 years. His voice should sound ragged and blown out. Tony Bennett did not sing the same rep or as often as Paul. That is why he can still sing into his late 80's. I can be happy with the records now. Start writing more now Paul. For other artists and projects. Produce recordings. Write musicals. Co-write with other legends. [/quote] I've been saying for several years now that Paul should give up the live work. It's obvious though he will do whatever he wants. Already there have been rumours of further concerts in Italy, Japan and even possibly Australia in 2017. 2017, the year he turns 75! I hope he has the common sense not to end up like Chuck Berry, or B.B. King. I agree with lowbasso, use the remaining years for studio work and writing, both his own and for others. Maybe he is intent on taking Neil Young's advice to burn out, rather than fade away?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 11, 2016 5:18:29 GMT -5
If only Paul would do the 1980 live arrangement! The 1989/1990 "Techno version" with "Master Chris Whitten on drums" was boring and actually bizarre with Linda screaming "Yeah" out of synch with the music! So now we're going back some 26-27 years to make the point, are we? Sorry, I still disagree.. "Coming Up" is a fine live track, always has been. Sorry you don't like it. Paul wouldn't have been doing it for so many years if it was a flop. I never said they were the "highlights". That's your terminology. And of course I would always say that the majority of the audience would ALWAYS prefer to hear only Beatles and Wings songs. I disagree again. I like the WILD LIFE album as an oddity too, but you're probably the voice of a needle in a haystack insisting on Paul doing "Mumbo" . The place would go f ck ng nuts with "Mumbo" alright... but not for the reasons you think. You would be the only single person up and bopping about, in any venue.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 11, 2016 8:47:24 GMT -5
So now we're going back some 26-27 years to make the point, are we? Yes because you cited the 1980 live version of "Coming Up" which was a #1 hit in the U.S., I think Paul's last without the help of other artists like Stevie and MJ. We will have to disagree on crowd excitement levels for these couple of songs. We both went to different cities to see our respective shows. What Paul does live now doesn't matter to me because it is Abe doing all the singing in Paul's old range and I went to Paul concerts primarily for the music(singing and instruments) so now fans still get competent musical backings and lots of back-up singing by the band but much less, if any, of that magical Macca vocals that made us fans to begin with. It is fun to be in the same arena with Paul, I get that, but that was secondary to me, the music always comes first. It sure wouldn't be fun if Paul is onstage coughing up blood so newbies can hear "Hey Jude" and "Let It Be." But this is a Pure McCartney Thread and it works beautifully as a "road-trip" album. I just drove to Plymouth Mass. and back for the 4th and one week ago today I played all four Discs in a row which helped me drive alertly and with pleasure from Plymouth Mass. to Hamburg, NY of all places and I was listening to Paul as I drove past the "Liverpool/Syracuse" exit!
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 11, 2016 17:13:34 GMT -5
What Paul does live now doesn't matter to me because it is Abe doing all the singing in Paul's old range .... Abe Vigoda is singing for Paul now? Now it all makes sense. Here's a show from last month. I don't hear Abe at all. (I quit at about 25 minutes and Let Me Roll It. I have TV to watch.) Paul's a little rough in spots but he still sounds like Paul McCartney. Listen to Elton John these days. You wouldn't even know it's him if you hadn't seen him in thirty years.
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Post by stavros on Jul 16, 2016 18:48:33 GMT -5
Whoops posted in the wrong thread.
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 29, 2016 22:10:41 GMT -5
Amazon has it for $31.66 now.
I cracked.
I'm not sure what I will do with it. Just look at it I guess.
It's an autorip. Huh. I don't need that. I have everything on it already. Downloading the e-files would be silly.
Dooooh! Blast that buy with 1-click!
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kc
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Post by kc on Jul 29, 2016 22:34:06 GMT -5
Amazon has it for $31.66 now. I cracked. I'm not sure what I will do with it. Just look at it I guess. It's an autorip. Huh. I don't need that. I have everything on it already. Downloading the e-files would be silly. Dooooh! Blast that buy with 1-click! I knew it would only be a matter of time. The flesh is weak. Seriously though, I've had some fun playing it a few tracks, or one disc, at a time over the past few weeks.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 30, 2016 15:41:44 GMT -5
Amazon has it for $31.66 now. I cracked. I'm not sure what I will do with it. Just look at it I guess. It's an autorip. Huh. I don't need that. I have everything on it already. Downloading the e-files would be silly. Dooooh! Blast that buy with 1-click! I knew it would only be a matter of time. The flesh is weak. Seriously though, I've had some fun playing it a few tracks, or one disc, at a time over the past few weeks. Welcome to the Pure McCartney Club Debjorgo! Pure McCartney, the solo career spanning compilation for Paul with songs curated by Macca himself, has changed my life for the better!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 31, 2016 6:25:49 GMT -5
I may have fallen out of the PURE McCARTNEY club. While I still am generally keen on the whole idea, I played all four discs back to back this weekend during a very long car trip (as it is intended). The first CD is excellent and the second one is good... but the 3rd and 4th really brought the party down. Part of it was simply because it was too much Macca overkill. But I also felt the nagging beginning where I was feeling he shouldn't have picked this or that particular song, and which tracks he should have used instead. Completely subjective, but still.
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 1, 2016 13:19:50 GMT -5
I may have fallen out of the PURE McCARTNEY club. While I still am generally keen on the whole idea, I played all four discs back to back this weekend during a very long car trip (as it is intended). The first CD is excellent and the second one is good... but the 3rd and 4th really brought the party down. Part of it was simply because it was too much Macca overkill. But I also felt the nagging beginning where I was feeling he shouldn't have picked this or that particular song, and which tracks he should have used instead. Completely subjective, but still. Disc 3 has indeed come under the most fire! I still haven't played PM at home! There are some killer omissions which mar this as a great compilation and yes some great road songs are missing. I guess PM has not really changed my life. I had hoped that it would.
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