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Post by Steve Marinucci on Apr 5, 2016 17:29:36 GMT -5
No matter what was on this set, someone wouldn't be happy. The point is there really isn't one for it.
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Post by coachbk on Apr 5, 2016 22:17:35 GMT -5
Great list Coach but not if you keep the name Pure McCartney! You have co-writes and even a cover or two so we must rename your comp but as I say, it is very good; just not pure McCartney!  Yeah, you are right. I need a different title. It isn't all Paul. How about: MCCARTNEY: WITH JUST A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS |
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 5, 2016 23:03:45 GMT -5
No matter what was on this set, someone wouldn't be happy. The point is there really isn't one for it. Give me Mumbo or give me death! Someday Paul will have the courage to either put "Mumbo" on a comp of his best or open his concerts with it! |
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Post by nine on Apr 5, 2016 23:26:33 GMT -5
"Maybe it's to be enjoyed on a long car journey or an evening at home or at a party with friends? ..."
So why no driving songs... Helen Wheels, Getting Closer, Driving Rain....
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Post by vectisfabber on Apr 6, 2016 5:05:58 GMT -5
No matter what was on this set, someone wouldn't be happy. The point is there really isn't one for it. Give me Mumbo or give me death! Someday Paul will have the courage to either put "Mumbo" on a comp of his best or open his concerts with it! I wouldn't mind having a small wager with you on that particular issue.... |
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 6, 2016 5:33:47 GMT -5
I miss those vinyl days. The large picture covers, the B-sides of singles, finding a bargain in Woolworths and spending countless hours in record shops. The thing is, those days you harken back to sound like the life I have been living on a regular basis for the past five years!  In 2011 I re-discovered vinyl, after a long 25 year hiatus. As far as I knew, nobody collected records anymore and they were forgotten relics of the past. I did not even know that they still make brand new turntables, which they do. I found out there were 5 record stores within my area, and I will never forget one day when I went inside and spent the whole day digging through old LPs and 45's when I was initially back into the groove. It's a funny story because I was having so much fun that I lost track of time... I began flipping through records at about 10:30 in the morning when the store first opened. In what seemed like only a couple of hours later, I decided that I'd better take a lunch break, so I turned and saw that the sun had gone down and it was 6 pm! The store owner had to tell me that the store was closing! That is how much fun I had... and this was all in 2011, not in 1971 ! A lot of things in life are a matter of "out of sight, out of mind". Whatever you're interested in seems very abundant when you're inside the community with other people. I spend hours at my record store, having great talks with other diehard fans.. and I have made new friends, including a younger guy who is half my age but lives for records (he likes Jazz best of all). I soon discovered that vinyl had never gone anywhere, because the same old guys had never gone to CD, and were still here all the time. But what really freaked me out was learning that vinyl was now very popular amongst the YOUTH! Teens and college kids now either abandoning the current MP3 and download culture, or enjoying records as a supplement. Young people in the store every day, whose eyes open wide with glee and excitement when holding an actual physical record LP in their hands. Some of the very young have their parents in the stores with them, and they're looking for a turntable -- in the year 2016, mind you! Today's current artists are also releasing their new alums on Vinyl. I bought an Adele album on vinyl only a few weeks ago. I learned that there is an Annual Record Store Day twice each year, once in April and again in November. Today's big event is April 16th this year, chock full of a ton of LP releases by old and new artists. I have CDs too, mainly to play in my car on trips. For me, I enjoy both. Good point. |
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 6, 2016 9:50:33 GMT -5
Give me Mumbo or give me death! Someday Paul will have the courage to either put "Mumbo" on a comp of his best or open his concerts with it! I wouldn't mind having a small wager with you on that particular issue.... If I ever meet Paul, I realize the window of speaking to him is very, very narrow. A fan must make it count! I will just look at Paul and blurt out, "F_ck_ng "Mumbo" Paul! F_ck_ng "Mumbo!" Paul will get it even though Nancy and his handlers won't! I am pretty sure I'd be knocked to the ground by his security and have the shit beat out of me before Paul stops them, helps me up, dusts me off and invites me over to the table for a drink on him. Only then can I introduce him to The JSD Postulate. He will love one-half of it but hate the conclusion. But he will have "Mumbo" on his mind! |
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Post by stavros on Apr 6, 2016 14:21:18 GMT -5
A lot of things in life are a matter of "out of sight, out of mind". Whatever you're interested in seems very abundant when you're inside the community with other people. I spend hours at my record store, having great talks with other diehard fans.. and I have made new friends, including a younger guy who is half my age but lives for records (he likes Jazz best of all). I soon discovered that vinyl had never gone anywhere, because the same old guys had never gone to CD, and were still here all the time. Good point. Great story Joe and it took back for a moment.The vinyl market is not quite as vibrant in my neck of the woods and long gone are the days of my youth when I'd hop on the bus, boat or train to Liverpool and spend the day roaming round the major retailers and the smaller independent record outlets whiling away the hours and working out whether I'd have enough pocket money to get back home before I bought something. Then return home examining the record cover and the inner sleeve, on the bus,for lyrics of songs still to be heard sometimes. Alas it's not the early 1980s any more and I've been through the CD and mindisc revolution (which never happened but I still love them little discs) and now gone digital. I even lost a bit of interest in music Then I spotted this. Great, my vinyl copy of "Let it Be" has a bigger warp than the Starship Enterprise. Those wonderful Japanese have given us the best of the analogue and the digital worlds rolled into one. Except it costs more than a small car to buy one (about £12k or $15k US). Anyway I think I've digressed enough in the last 24 hours. Back to the new album "Cure McCartney" |
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Post by andyb on Apr 6, 2016 16:16:05 GMT -5
Technically speaking CD is superior to vinyl: dynamic range and frequency response etc. Vinyl does sound good through a nice hi-fi set up though. The problem with CD reproduction is in the quest for 'loudness', which has always been around. Having your song booming out of the jukebox catching everyone's attention etc. CD doesn't have the limitations that vinyl has and can be really heavily limited so the average volume can be raised to ridiculous levels. This can sound good at first but can become tiring on the ears
Most music is recorded, mixed and mastered digitally these days and sounds great, so I think the only advantage to buying the vinyl rather than the CD would be in the mastering. The vinyl probably won't sound as crushed as the CD version and may be a more pleasant listen because of it.
I never replaced my vinyl with CD (until I bought the Mono box set in 2009) and I haven't bought a record for years but I still listen to my record collection. I'd love the new Mono box set on vinyl but it's rather expensive.
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 6, 2016 16:42:42 GMT -5
Why aren't "The Other Me" and "Mr. Bellamy" on Pure McCartney?! Yet "Only Momma Blows" is on it.  |
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Post by sayne on Apr 6, 2016 23:27:59 GMT -5
. . . I did not even know that they still make brand new turntables, which they do. I found out there were 5 record stores within my area . . . You will be surprised to know that I bought a new turntable last year and that I go vinyl hunting on each of the two solstices and both equinoxes. |
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Post by nine on Apr 6, 2016 23:35:20 GMT -5
Why aren't "The Other Me" and "Mr. Bellamy" on Pure McCartney?! Yet "Only Momma Blows" is on it. Did you mean 'That Was Me'? |
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Post by nine on Apr 7, 2016 1:52:16 GMT -5
My choice of 67, including the hits I tried to aim it not so much at me but for sale to the general market.
If it were for me I wouldn't have Live and Let Die in there and many other songs because I've heard them to death. I originally had a list of 130 and it was hard chopping off my favourites. Funnily enough Long Leather Coat took me a long time to ditch.
I also haven't got any Electric Arguments in here because I've only recently purchased that and am yet to familiarise myself with it.
Apart from the rocker albums, the classical stuff and so on all of his major releases have at least one song represented.
As I write this I forgot all about Back on my Feet! I should have squeezed that one in.
Maybe I'm Amazed
Everynight
Junk
Too Many People
Dear Boy
Heart of the Country
Back Seat of my Car
Uncle Albert
Another Day
Mumbo
Dear Friend
Live and Let Die
C-Moon
Big Barn Ben
My Love
Band on the Run
Jet
Mrs. Vanderbilt
Let Me Roll It
Helen Wheels
1985
Junior's Farm
Venus & Mars/Rockshow
Letting Go
Listen to what the Man Said
Let 'em In
Beware My Love
Silly Love Songs
Don't Let It Bring You Down
Mull of Kintyre
Goodnight Tonight
Daytime Nighttime Suffering
Getting Closer
Baby's Request
Coming UP
Waterfalls
Dark Room
Tug of War
Take it Away
Here Today
Ballroom Dancing
Pound is Sinking
Wanderlust
I'll Give You a Ring
Pipes of Peace
Say Say Say
No More Lonely Nights
Press
Figure of Eight
My Brave Face
Put it There
This One
Flying to my Home
Off the Ground
Hope of Deliverance
I Owe It All To You
Biker Like and Icon
The Songs We were Singing
The World Tonight
Driving Rain
Jenny Wren
English Tea
Too Much Rain
Ever Present Past
That was Me
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 7:20:52 GMT -5
I think the reason there are no songs from Driving Rain on Pure McCartney is quite simple, it was Paul's lowest selling album in the UK.
Translated, it was crap.
It would feature heavily on an album entitled Paul's Manure
To pad that album out they would use tracks from Wild Life and Red Rose Speedway.
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 7, 2016 8:54:08 GMT -5
Why aren't "The Other Me" and "Mr. Bellamy" on Pure McCartney?! Yet "Only Momma Blows" is on it. Did you mean 'That Was Me'? "That was Me" is good but I meant "The Other Me." That is pure McCartney! |
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Post by lowbasso on Apr 7, 2016 13:29:53 GMT -5
Everyone here has a different opinion as to what Paul should have put on his new "Best Of" compilation. That is why the whole concept seems silly. If one wants a "Best Of" Paul McCartney, simply make your own CD or load them on your computer and make an "album" for your mp3 device or Ipod with everything you want in the order you want it.  The only person who will be happy with this album as is will be Paul.... Hope he buys it.... |
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 7, 2016 15:21:45 GMT -5
I think the reason there are no songs from Driving Rain on Pure McCartney is quite simple, it was Paul's lowest selling album in the UK. Translated, it was crap. It would feature heavily on an album entitled Paul's Manure To pad that album out they would use tracks from Wild Life and Red Rose Speedway. Those are fighting words, fabfour!  I have also thought that in addition to every song on Pure McCartney being a song written only by Paul, each album, at least the deluxe CD and vinyl, should come with an authentic Paul McCartney DNA sample, sealed in some type of container. All kinds of body fluid and tissue could serve to provide such DNA. Then it would be pure McCartney! |
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Post by Panther on Apr 7, 2016 20:48:10 GMT -5
I think the reason there are no songs from Driving Rain on Pure McCartney is quite simple, it was Paul's lowest selling album in the UK. Translated, it was crap. It would feature heavily on an album entitled Paul's Manure It certainly was crap, and wasn't that also The Heather Mills album? Maybe Paul wants to pretend that album doesn't exist for that reason. Or maybe Heather gets 50% of the royalties from its songs, or something. |
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Post by coachbk on Apr 7, 2016 21:37:05 GMT -5
My choice of 67, including the hits I tried to aim it not so much at me but for sale to the general market. If it were for me I wouldn't have Live and Let Die in there and many other songs because I've heard them to death. I originally had a list of 130 and it was hard chopping off my favourites. Funnily enough Long Leather Coat took me a long time to ditch. I also haven't got any Electric Arguments in here because I've only recently purchased that and am yet to familiarise myself with it. Apart from the rocker albums, the classical stuff and so on all of his major releases have at least one song represented. As I write this I forgot all about Back on my Feet! I should have squeezed that one in. Maybe I'm Amazed Everynight Junk Too Many People Dear Boy Heart of the Country Back Seat of my Car Uncle Albert Another Day Mumbo Dear Friend Live and Let Die C-Moon Big Barn Ben My Love Band on the Run Jet Mrs. Vanderbilt Let Me Roll It Helen Wheels 1985 Junior's Farm Venus & Mars/Rockshow Letting Go Listen to what the Man Said Let 'em In Beware My Love Silly Love Songs Don't Let It Bring You Down Mull of Kintyre Goodnight Tonight Daytime Nighttime Suffering Getting Closer Baby's Request Coming UP Waterfalls Dark Room Tug of War Take it Away Here Today Ballroom Dancing Pound is Sinking Wanderlust I'll Give You a Ring Pipes of Peace Say Say Say No More Lonely Nights Press Figure of Eight My Brave Face Put it There This One Flying to my Home Off the Ground Hope of Deliverance I Owe It All To You Biker Like and Icon The Songs We were Singing The World Tonight Driving Rain Jenny Wren English Tea Too Much Rain Ever Present Past That was Me New Queenie Eye I like your list overall, but you are missing three great songs from FLAMING PIE: Little Willow, Somedays, and most glaringly Calico Skies, which is possibly one of Paul's 10 best songs including his Beatles cuts! |
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Post by nine on Apr 7, 2016 22:54:04 GMT -5
My choice of 67, including the hits I tried to aim it not so much at me but for sale to the general market. If it were for me I wouldn't have Live and Let Die in there and many other songs because I've heard them to death. I originally had a list of 130 and it was hard chopping off my favourites. Funnily enough Long Leather Coat took me a long time to ditch. I also haven't got any Electric Arguments in here because I've only recently purchased that and am yet to familiarise myself with it. Apart from the rocker albums, the classical stuff and so on all of his major releases have at least one song represented. As I write this I forgot all about Back on my Feet! I should have squeezed that one in. Maybe I'm Amazed Everynight Junk Too Many People Dear Boy Heart of the Country Back Seat of my Car Uncle Albert Another Day Mumbo Dear Friend Live and Let Die C-Moon Big Barn Ben My Love Band on the Run Jet Mrs. Vanderbilt Let Me Roll It Helen Wheels 1985 Junior's Farm Venus & Mars/Rockshow Letting Go Listen to what the Man Said Let 'em In Beware My Love Silly Love Songs Don't Let It Bring You Down Mull of Kintyre Goodnight Tonight Daytime Nighttime Suffering Getting Closer Baby's Request Coming UP Waterfalls Dark Room Tug of War Take it Away Here Today Ballroom Dancing Pound is Sinking Wanderlust I'll Give You a Ring Pipes of Peace Say Say Say No More Lonely Nights Press Figure of Eight My Brave Face Put it There This One Flying to my Home Off the Ground Hope of Deliverance I Owe It All To You Biker Like and Icon The Songs We were Singing The World Tonight Driving Rain Jenny Wren English Tea Too Much Rain Ever Present Past That was Me New Queenie Eye I like your list overall, but you are missing three great songs from FLAMING PIE: Little Willow, Somedays, and most glaringly Calico Skies, which is possibly one of Paul's 10 best songs including his Beatles cuts! I had to be brutal. Of the three you mention, and I guess it's a case of different tastes, but Calico Skies and Somedays I don't regard highly, mainly because of the lyrics. |
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 8, 2016 6:00:16 GMT -5
Everyone here has a different opinion as to what Paul should have put on his new "Best Of" compilation. That is why the whole concept seems silly. Well, first off. this is not a "Best Of" compilation. But I think it may be fair to say that if Paul wants to present a "career overview collection", then it probably should be he himself who decides what to include... no? Yeah, and maybe we can all go back and re-do the classic Red and Blue albums (62-66, 67-70), because of course we can all decide for ourselves what we personally want on those compilations as well. I know a lot of fans (off this board) who will be buying this, including myself. We will enjoy it. |
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 8, 2016 6:02:49 GMT -5
I think the reason there are no songs from Driving Rain on Pure McCartney is quite simple, it was Paul's lowest selling album in the UK. Translated, it was crap. For me, DR was the worst solo Beatle album by ANY of the Beatles, and that includes Ringo. Even the manure within George's solo career was more listenable to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 6:36:21 GMT -5
I think the reason there are no songs from Driving Rain on Pure McCartney is quite simple, it was Paul's lowest selling album in the UK. Translated, it was crap. For me, DR was the worst solo Beatle album by ANY of the Beatles, and that includes Ringo. Even the manure within George's solo career was more listenable to me. You can't help yourself, you always have to have a dig at George even when the subject has got nothing do with him. Give yourself an uppercut.. |
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 8, 2016 10:08:19 GMT -5
You fellows pick on Driving Rain simply because Paul brought in James " Young Turk" McCartney to co-write a few songs and thus they are not pure McCartney because of all of his kids, Paul only views Stella as pure McCartney because he doesn't have to support her like the others!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 8, 2016 17:42:37 GMT -5
You fellows pick on Driving Rain simply because Paul brought in James " Young Turk" McCartney to co-write a few songs and thus they are not pure McCartney Is THAT why all those songs sucked on Thriving Pain ? I knew there had to be an explanation! |
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 8, 2016 18:06:31 GMT -5
You fellows pick on Driving Rain simply because Paul brought in James " Young Turk" McCartney to co-write a few songs and thus they are not pure McCartney because of all of his kids, Paul only views Stella as pure McCartney because he doesn't have to support her like the others! James played guitar on Flaming Pie, and that album gets more raves than any album since Tug of War. |
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 8, 2016 18:15:04 GMT -5
My choice of 67, including the hits I tried to aim it not so much at me but for sale to the general market. If it were for me I wouldn't have Live and Let Die in there and many other songs because I've heard them to death. I originally had a list of 130 and it was hard chopping off my favourites. Funnily enough Long Leather Coat took me a long time to ditch. I also haven't got any Electric Arguments in here because I've only recently purchased that and am yet to familiarise myself with it. Apart from the rocker albums, the classical stuff and so on all of his major releases have at least one song represented. As I write this I forgot all about Back on my Feet! I should have squeezed that one in. Maybe I'm Amazed Everynight .... Biker Like and Icon The Songs We were Singing The World Tonight Driving Rain Jenny Wren English Tea Too Much Rain Ever Present Past That was Me New Queenie Eye Okay, I'll bite. Driving Rain is the worse song on the album. It's probably the true stink that smells up the album for everybody. "One Two Three for Five, let's go for a ride". Yeah, this is it. This is the song. It's like moving the refrigerator and "Whew, that's it." There's the dead rat". |
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 8, 2016 18:53:34 GMT -5
Driving Rain is the worse song on the album. It's probably the true stink that smells up the album for everybody. "One Two Three for Five, let's go for a ride". Yeah, this is it. This is the song. Why is, "1,2,3,4,5,6,7, all good children go to heaven," genius on AR but Paul's countdown is not?! Come on Macca Mad Hatters, jump in and help, I can't fight the Driving Rain fight alone! |
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 8, 2016 19:12:13 GMT -5
You fellows pick on Driving Rain simply because Paul brought in James " Young Turk" McCartney to co-write a few songs and thus they are not pure McCartney Is THAT why all those songs sucked on Thriving Pain ? I knew there had to be an explanation! JoeKarlosi, when Paul gets around to re-issuing Driving Rain in the deluxe vinyl box with extras, I am going to buy it for you and you will cry tears of joy at discovering this fabulous collection of pure McCartney songs when Paul was at the biggest crossroads of his life: letting go of the lovely Linda who was gone from this world and reaching out for renewed life from the brightly burning, intense Heather Mills! I have decided on this unseasonably cold, lonely April Friday night that I am going to shut the curtains, pop open a bottle of wine and envelope myself in Driving Rain! I feel a new Driving Rain Thread coming: Driving Rain 15 Years Later: Pure McCartney Or Not? |
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Post by coachbk on Apr 8, 2016 19:15:59 GMT -5
I like your list overall, but you are missing three great songs from FLAMING PIE: Little Willow, Somedays, and most glaringly Calico Skies, which is possibly one of Paul's 10 best songs including his Beatles cuts! I had to be brutal. Of the three you mention, and I guess it's a case of different tastes, but Calico Skies and Somedays I don't regard highly, mainly because of the lyrics. Really? I think those are some of the best lyrics Paul has ever written. Right up there with For No One (my all-time favorite). |
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