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Post by lowbasso on Mar 31, 2017 12:01:09 GMT -5
Steve posted this on Facebook; (Though I thought the 50th Anniversary of SPLHCB release is June 1, still two months away...)
"Former Paul Revere and the Raiders guitarist Keith Allison posted an interesting story on ;his Facebook page. Keith is a good friend of Ringo Starr. If you're a Beatle fan you might like this this story...I know I do. So today is the 50th anniversary of Sgt. Pepper album being released. A couple months ago I was at Ringo's home. We were in his man cave watching tv, when a delivery from England came in. It's was from Giles Martin, George Martins son. What's this? It's the Sgt. Pepper album remastered. I said, "I haven't listened to this in I don't know how long." Ringo exclaimed, "You haven't heard it in a long time? I haven't listened to it in decades." So we decide to listen to it on his high def top of the line system. So here we are sitting on the sofa, facing the Tv, muted, but with soap operas playing. We listened to every track together. I thought, this is a historically great moment. Sitting here with my friend, listening to Sgt. Pepper, that he's on as a Beatle, and that he hasn't listen to track by track, since it came out. Only two copies of the remastered Sgt. Pepper album were sent out, one to McCartney and one to Ringo, to be approved by them both. So what did Ringo think? He thought it was great! Why? Because it originally was recorded on a 4-track with a lot of over dubs, which buried the drums. Now, the drums have been lifted and come through as they should. He was pleased. You'll be glad to know it was remastered at EMI Studios where it was originally recorded. I remember the first time I heard Sgt. Pepper. It was in Carmel, at Raiders drummer Mike 'Smitty' Smith's home. He got an advanced copy prior to its release. We sat there listening to it, in its entirety. Revisiting certain songs. Happy 50th Anniversary, Sgt. Pepper!"
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 31, 2017 17:20:15 GMT -5
Rumors are flying that Pepper is going to be re-released with a new stereo remix but I have some problems with Allison's account from Facebook:
1. He is a musician and recording artist yet gets re-mastering mixed up with remixing! SPLHCB was re-mastered in 2009. What Allison describes is remixing. Weird that a recording artist screwed that up and The Beatle Daily who also ran with this called him on that.
2. I do not believe for a moment that Ringo Starr has not listened to Pepper in its entirety in "decades!" If true then Ringo did not do his due diligence in 1987 when Pepper first came out on CD and especially in 2009 when it was re-issued in a re-mastered format! That makes Ringo come across as an idiot who did not listen carefully to the efforts to put Pepper on CD in both 1987 and again in 2009!
3. Why were the Lennon and Harrison Estates not given a copy? I bet both Estates have a say least Paul remixes John's lead vocal right out of "Lucy" and replaces it with his 2017 croaking....er singing, Paul betting that lazy Ringo won't even know since, of course, Ringo has not listened to Pepper "in decades."
4. Ringo will not even shake hands because of germ-phobia, do you think OCD Ringo would let this dude plant his ass on Ringo's favorite couch in his mancave! I think not!
5. It was a Facebook post! Facebook is the greatest source of "Fake News!"
I bet there is some truth in this but Mr. Allison might be stretching the truth a little.
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 31, 2017 18:31:34 GMT -5
Rumors are flying that Pepper is going to be re-released with a new stereo remix but I have some problems with Allison's account from Facebook: 1. He is a musician and recording artist yet gets re-mastering mixed up with remixing! SPLHCB was re-mastered in 2009. What Allison describes is remixing. Weird that a recording artist screwed that up and The Beatle Daily who also ran with this called him on that. 2. I do not believe for a moment that Ringo Starr has not listened to Pepper in its entirety in "decades!" If true then Ringo did not do his due diligence in 1987 when Pepper first came out on CD and especially in 2009 when it was re-issued in a re-mastered format! That makes Ringo come across as an idiot who did not listen carefully to the efforts to put Pepper on CD in both 1987 and again in 2009! 3. Why were the Lennon and Harrison Estates not given a copy? I bet both Estates have a say least Paul remixes John's lead vocal right out of "Lucy" and replaces it with his 2017 croaking....er singing, Paul betting that lazy Ringo won't even know since, of course, Ringo has not listened to Pepper "in decades." 4. Ringo will not even shake hands because of germ-phobia, do you think OCD Ringo would let this dude plant his ass on Ringo's favorite couch in his mancave! I think not! 5. It was a Facebook post! Facebook is the greatest source of "Fake News!" I bet there is some truth in this but Mr. Allison might be stretching the truth a little. Mitch Axelrod, who is a pretty good Beatle expert and writes for Beatlefan Magazine, is the one who posted in Steve's Facebook page under comments about the above posting that rumors are "VERY STRONG" that SPLHCB was re-mixed for the anniversary release. I, for one, hope it is accurate. Maybe Yoko added background vocals to the original tapes.....
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 31, 2017 19:44:46 GMT -5
Rumors are flying that Pepper is going to be re-released with a new stereo remix but I have some problems with Allison's account from Facebook: 1. He is a musician and recording artist yet gets re-mastering mixed up with remixing! SPLHCB was re-mastered in 2009. What Allison describes is remixing. Weird that a recording artist screwed that up and The Beatle Daily who also ran with this called him on that. 2. I do not believe for a moment that Ringo Starr has not listened to Pepper in its entirety in "decades!" If true then Ringo did not do his due diligence in 1987 when Pepper first came out on CD and especially in 2009 when it was re-issued in a re-mastered format! That makes Ringo come across as an idiot who did not listen carefully to the efforts to put Pepper on CD in both 1987 and again in 2009! 3. Why were the Lennon and Harrison Estates not given a copy? I bet both Estates have a say least Paul remixes John's lead vocal right out of "Lucy" and replaces it with his 2017 croaking....er singing, Paul betting that lazy Ringo won't even know since, of course, Ringo has not listened to Pepper "in decades." 4. Ringo will not even shake hands because of germ-phobia, do you think OCD Ringo would let this dude plant his ass on Ringo's favorite couch in his mancave! I think not! 5. It was a Facebook post! Facebook is the greatest source of "Fake News!" I bet there is some truth in this but Mr. Allison might be stretching the truth a little. Correction: Mitch doesn't write for Beatlefan. He's one of the Fab 4 Free 4 All guys.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 31, 2017 19:47:36 GMT -5
As far as the rumors go, I think we'll see an announcement tomorrow (2 months away from the 50th), and if not then on Monday. What exactly I don't know. My guess would be a combo of stereo and mono mixes with 'Penny Lane' and 'SFF' added and a few outtakes. That would be what I'd do. But they haven't asked me.
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 31, 2017 20:29:37 GMT -5
Rumors are flying that Pepper is going to be re-released with a new stereo remix but I have some problems with Allison's account from Facebook: 1. He is a musician and recording artist yet gets re-mastering mixed up with remixing! SPLHCB was re-mastered in 2009. What Allison describes is remixing. Weird that a recording artist screwed that up and The Beatle Daily who also ran with this called him on that. 2. I do not believe for a moment that Ringo Starr has not listened to Pepper in its entirety in "decades!" If true then Ringo did not do his due diligence in 1987 when Pepper first came out on CD and especially in 2009 when it was re-issued in a re-mastered format! That makes Ringo come across as an idiot who did not listen carefully to the efforts to put Pepper on CD in both 1987 and again in 2009! 3. Why were the Lennon and Harrison Estates not given a copy? I bet both Estates have a say least Paul remixes John's lead vocal right out of "Lucy" and replaces it with his 2017 croaking....er singing, Paul betting that lazy Ringo won't even know since, of course, Ringo has not listened to Pepper "in decades." 4. Ringo will not even shake hands because of germ-phobia, do you think OCD Ringo would let this dude plant his ass on Ringo's favorite couch in his mancave! I think not! 5. It was a Facebook post! Facebook is the greatest source of "Fake News!" I bet there is some truth in this but Mr. Allison might be stretching the truth a little. Correction: Mitch doesn't write for Beatlefan. He's one of the Fab 4 Free 4 All guys. Sorry Steve. Thought I saw his name in the magazine as well at some point. But he knows his Beatle stuff like you!
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 31, 2017 21:20:05 GMT -5
There are enough "clues" out there to reasonably believe we are about to get a re-mixed Sgt Pepper which is great! I was just pointing out inconsistencies in Keith Allison's Facebook post, I was not saying there is nothing coming!
I am not shooting the messengers like Steve who reported Allison's post or you lowbasso for posting it here. I am glad to read any and all tidbits. I am just saying some of the things Allison wrote seem a stretch even as I was reading his FB post.
Maybe Ringo did tell Allison he hasn't listened to all of SPLHCB since 1967 but that puts Ringo in a poor light as to monitoring the quality of Beatles re-releases! If Ringo is right, then he did not listen to Pepper in 1987 or 2009, two critical years when the Pepper album was re-issued.
Come Apple, quite f-ing around with those color bars(in the colors of the Pepper uniforms) and just give us a straight press release giving us details! We Beatles fans are too f-ing old to play these stupid games!
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 1, 2017 4:36:25 GMT -5
Technically, because the engineer is using the original tapes, any remaster is a remix. They just try to get it mixed exactly like the original release. That's why you hear complaints that "they didn't get the drums right", "the fade is too soon". And all remixes are remasters. The distinction between the two terms has grown with the digital age and all of the re-releases that are issued now. And I'd cut Keith some slack. He was rumored to have stood in as a fake Paul McCartney at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 6:46:57 GMT -5
Rumors are flying that Pepper is going to be re-released with a new stereo remix but I have some problems with Allison's account from Facebook: 1. He is a musician and recording artist yet gets re-mastering mixed up with remixing! SPLHCB was re-mastered in 2009. What Allison describes is remixing. Weird that a recording artist screwed that up and The Beatle Daily who also ran with this called him on that. 2. I do not believe for a moment that Ringo Starr has not listened to Pepper in its entirety in "decades!" If true then Ringo did not do his due diligence in 1987 when Pepper first came out on CD and especially in 2009 when it was re-issued in a re-mastered format! That makes Ringo come across as an idiot who did not listen carefully to the efforts to put Pepper on CD in both 1987 and again in 2009! 3. Why were the Lennon and Harrison Estates not given a copy? I bet both Estates have a say least Paul remixes John's lead vocal right out of "Lucy" and replaces it with his 2017 croaking....er singing, Paul betting that lazy Ringo won't even know since, of course, Ringo has not listened to Pepper "in decades." 4. Ringo will not even shake hands because of germ-phobia, do you think OCD Ringo would let this dude plant his ass on Ringo's favorite couch in his mancave! I think not! 5. It was a Facebook post! Facebook is the greatest source of "Fake News!" I bet there is some truth in this but Mr. Allison might be stretching the truth a little. Mitch Axelrod, who is a pretty good Beatle expert and writes for Beatlefan Magazine, is the one who posted in Steve's Facebook page under comments about the above posting that rumors are "VERY STRONG" that SPLHCB was re-mixed for the anniversary release. I, for one, hope it is accurate. Maybe Yoko added background vocals to the original tapes..... Yoko and vocals on Sgt Peppers, let's hope not, these guys could sing. Yoko, musically, well, no explanation required.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 1, 2017 8:12:08 GMT -5
I don't know. I could hear Yoko doing her "Wacka wacka" thing during the "Ayyyyyy, Ayy Ay" part of A Day in the Life.
You have to admit, Two Virgins was just a bunch of bird sounds and noise until Yoko starts screaming.
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 1, 2017 13:10:56 GMT -5
This is breaking news across the internet but said to be from a source deep within Apple! There will be a 50th Anniversary SPLHCB issue in two formats:
1. The standard album with the 2009 re-mastering with SFF/PL tacked onto the end; an expanded packaging with 2017 comments by Paul and Ringo only AND a bonus disc of Paul and Ringo re-recording the entire album from super secret recording sessions from March to June 2016 at Paul's home studio produced by Jeff Lynne. There will be some "updates" to the lyrics as the title song will have Paul singing, "It was 70 years ago today(not 50 because it was already "20 years ago" in 1967!); "When I'm 64" will now become "When I'm 94" and again, Paul won't sing "74" because that is his current age and that song looks into the future and Paul intends to see 94 and to keep touring until then! Ringo will sing, of course, WALHFMF and George's "Within You Without You" and will indeed put the "Tomorrow Never Knows" drum pattern to it but will have Jim Keltner actually do the drumming. Ringo will also delightfully drop the names of dozens of other Beatles' songs into the lyrics. giving the song that unique Ringo brand! This version will be $75.00. UK fans must do the Pound conversion for their price.
2. The Deluxe Box will have: a. SPLHCB 2009 Stereo and Mono back to back, with stereo and mono SFF/PL tacked on to the end of each. b. A new Stereo re-mixed version of SPLHCB with SFF/PL re-mixed tacked onto the end by Giles Martin. c. Disc 3 of alternate versions of Pepper songs(all of the Anthology 2 ones will be here) anchored by "Carnival of Light" making its debut! d. A restored video of ADITL, SFF and PL, all off the recent 1, and a new documentary, "The Making of Paul and Ringo's SPLHCB." e. A lush book from Genesis Publications signed by Paul, Ringo, Yoko and Olivia.
This deluxe Box will be $750.00.00 and again UK fans will need to do the Pound conversion.
The remixed version from Giles Martin is only available by buying the deluxe Box!
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Post by apbuitron on Apr 1, 2017 15:13:14 GMT -5
Technically, because the engineer is using the original tapes, any remaster is a remix. They just try to get it mixed exactly like the original release. That's why you hear complaints that "they didn't get the drums right", "the fade is too soon". And all remixes are remasters. The distinction between the two terms has grown with the digital age and all of the re-releases that are issued now. And I'd cut Keith some slack. He was rumored to have stood in as a fake Paul McCartney at the time. View Attachment You actually have it backwards. Any remix is a remaster but not vice versa. Remastering just means cleaning up a and adjusting the overall volume of the tracks. A remix means taking the individual instrument and vocal tracks and creating a new mix. This new mix then has to be mastered,
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 1, 2017 15:22:41 GMT -5
And I hear there is the download only version of the album that was recorded at the launch party on a tape recorder at the bottom of Linda's purse.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 1, 2017 15:38:36 GMT -5
Technically, because the engineer is using the original tapes, any remaster is a remix. They just try to get it mixed exactly like the original release. That's why you hear complaints that "they didn't get the drums right", "the fade is too soon". And all remixes are remasters. The distinction between the two terms has grown with the digital age and all of the re-releases that are issued now. And I'd cut Keith some slack. He was rumored to have stood in as a fake Paul McCartney at the time. View Attachment You actually have it backwards. Any remix is a remaster but not vice versa. Remastering just means cleaning up a and adjusting the overall volume of the tracks. My understanding is, there is no mix on the original tapes. These tapes are mixed for the album master. In the early days of CD releases, they would clean up the album master and adjust the volume. Remasters go back to the original session tapes and recreate the album masters and mixes. Today, remix is used only when a new mix is created.
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Post by stavros on Apr 1, 2017 16:06:58 GMT -5
This is breaking news across the internet but said to be from a source deep within Apple! There will be a 50th Anniversary SPLHCB issue in two formats: 1. The standard album with the 2009 re-mastering with SFF/PL tacked onto the end; an expanded packaging with 2017 comments by Paul and Ringo only AND a bonus disc of Paul and Ringo re-recording the entire album from super secret recording sessions from March to June 2016 at Paul's home studio produced by Jeff Lynne. There will be some "updates" to the lyrics as the title song will have Paul singing, "It was 70 years ago today(not 50 because it was already "20 years ago" in 1967!); "When I'm 64" will now become "When I'm 94" and again, Paul won't sing "74" because that is his current age and that song looks into the future and Paul intends to see 94 and to keep touring until then! Ringo will sing, of course, WALHFMF and George's "Within You Without You" and will indeed put the "Tomorrow Never Knows" drum pattern to it but will have Jim Keltner actually do the drumming. Ringo will also delightfully drop the names of dozens of other Beatles' songs into the lyrics. giving the song that unique Ringo brand! This version will be $75.00. UK fans must do the Pound conversion for their price. 2. The Deluxe Box will have: a. SPLHCB 2009 Stereo and Mono back to back, with stereo and mono SFF/PL tacked on to the end of each. b. A new Stereo re-mixed version of SPLHCB with SFF/PL re-mixed tacked onto the end by Giles Martin. c. Disc 3 of alternate versions of Pepper songs(all of the Anthology 2 ones will be here) anchored by "Carnival of Light" making its debut! d. A restored video of ADITL, SFF and PL, all off the recent 1, and a new documentary, "The Making of Paul and Ringo's SPLHCB." e. A lush book from Genesis Publications signed by Paul, Ringo, Yoko and Olivia. This deluxe Box will be $750.00.00 and again UK fans will need to do the Pound conversion. The remixed version from Giles Martin is only available by buying the deluxe Box! Rumours over this side of the Atlantic say that Paul and Ringo also worked on re-recording "Carnival of Light" for the de-luxe box set. Paul apparently wanted to regain the original ambience of that piece so sat on the lavatory at Abbey Road for his vocals. Apparently the recording has a number of movements. Ringo reportedly wanted something that audiences would find a lot fresher so shouted "P!$$ and Love" for this 50th anniversary re-mix now dubbed "Carnival of Sh(ine a L)ite" whilst simultaneously holding up two fingers to UK audiences. The US version has him exercising only his middle finger. I've also heard Ringo refused to sign any copies of the lush book. Not because of his apparent grumpiness years ago but because he no longer has the ability to write his name.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 1, 2017 17:19:19 GMT -5
On Carnival of Light, I had heard Hendrix's guitar work had sounded a little wanky, dropping out, tape hiss and such. It's been fixed to everyone's satisfaction.
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 1, 2017 20:30:05 GMT -5
This is breaking news across the internet but said to be from a source deep within Apple! There will be a 50th Anniversary SPLHCB issue in two formats: 1. The standard album with the 2009 re-mastering with SFF/PL tacked onto the end; an expanded packaging with 2017 comments by Paul and Ringo only AND a bonus disc of Paul and Ringo re-recording the entire album from super secret recording sessions from March to June 2016 at Paul's home studio produced by Jeff Lynne. There will be some "updates" to the lyrics as the title song will have Paul singing, "It was 70 years ago today(not 50 because it was already "20 years ago" in 1967!); "When I'm 64" will now become "When I'm 94" and again, Paul won't sing "74" because that is his current age and that song looks into the future and Paul intends to see 94 and to keep touring until then! Ringo will sing, of course, WALHFMF and George's "Within You Without You" and will indeed put the "Tomorrow Never Knows" drum pattern to it but will have Jim Keltner actually do the drumming. Ringo will also delightfully drop the names of dozens of other Beatles' songs into the lyrics. giving the song that unique Ringo brand! This version will be $75.00. UK fans must do the Pound conversion for their price. 2. The Deluxe Box will have: a. SPLHCB 2009 Stereo and Mono back to back, with stereo and mono SFF/PL tacked on to the end of each. b. A new Stereo re-mixed version of SPLHCB with SFF/PL re-mixed tacked onto the end by Giles Martin. c. Disc 3 of alternate versions of Pepper songs(all of the Anthology 2 ones will be here) anchored by "Carnival of Light" making its debut! d. A restored video of ADITL, SFF and PL, all off the recent 1, and a new documentary, "The Making of Paul and Ringo's SPLHCB." e. A lush book from Genesis Publications signed by Paul, Ringo, Yoko and Olivia. This deluxe Box will be $750.00.00 and again UK fans will need to do the Pound conversion. The remixed version from Giles Martin is only available by buying the deluxe Box! Rumours over this side of the Atlantic say that Paul and Ringo also worked on re-recording "Carnival of Light" for the de-luxe box set. Paul apparently wanted to regain the original ambience of that piece so sat on the lavatory at Abbey Road for his vocals. Apparently the recording has a number of movements. Ringo reportedly wanted something that audiences would find a lot fresher so shouted "P!$$ and Love" for this 50th anniversary re-mix now dubbed "Carnival of Sh(ine a L)ite" whilst simultaneously holding up two fingers to UK audiences. The US version has him exercising only his middle finger. I've also heard Ringo refused to sign any copies of the lush book. Not because of his apparent grumpiness years ago but because he no longer has the ability to write his name. From what I am hearing, the Paul and Ringo SPLHCB features just three people, Paul, Ringo and Paul "Wix" Wickens. Paul played guitars, bass, piano and drums(just like he did with The Beatles) and Wix played everything else. Paul allegedly "sings" his songs as well as John's. Ringo shouts out, "P_ss and Love!" scores of time in addition to name checking other Beatles song titles into his two vocal contributions, WALHFMF and George's "WYWY." Ringo wanted to replace George's only Pepper song with "Photograph" and "Honey Don't" but Paul and Jeff Lynne talked him out of that! "But I already know those two songs with me fooking All-Starr band," Ringo protested! Julian and Sean were to sing John's songs but Julian was angry that his Mum Cynthia was not asked to participate. When reminded by Macca that his Mummy was dead, Julian stormed off saying the surviving Fabs should have celebrated the 40th Year Pepper anniversary! Sean did not mind in the least when Paul and Ringo told Yoko to enjoy the recordings via video transmission which for some reason did not work when it was time, the last failed project of Magic Alex but in a way a major victory as it left Yoko in NYC screaming at a blank television monitor! Sean though backed out at the last minute when Yoko threatened her only son with changing her Will, giving it all to Kyoko. "Don't worry Kyoko," Yoko reassured her, "Mummy's only looking for her hand in the snow!" Sean stayed in NYC and Yoko shoved Kyoko out of her life once again. Dhani was to sing George's only Pepper song but he insisted that Paul and Ringo first attend a Hare Krishna crash course and for the first time in years Paul and Ringo agreed on something and in unison told Dhani to "fook off!" Pattie Boyd Harrison Clapton attended the sessions and made sure a good time was had by all! All of this is available only on the Deluxe Box DVD for the $750.00!
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Post by sayne on Apr 3, 2017 22:34:02 GMT -5
Technically, because the engineer is using the original tapes, any remaster is a remix. They just try to get it mixed exactly like the original release. That's why you hear complaints that "they didn't get the drums right", "the fade is too soon". And all remixes are remasters. The distinction between the two terms has grown with the digital age and all of the re-releases that are issued now. And I'd cut Keith some slack. He was rumored to have stood in as a fake Paul McCartney at the time. View Attachment You actually have it backwards. Any remix is a remaster but not vice versa. Remastering just means cleaning up a and adjusting the overall volume of the tracks. A remix means taking the individual instrument and vocal tracks and creating a new mix. This new mix then has to be mastered, You are correct. I've often disagreed with people here who stridently believe that there is no difference or who reverse the definitions. Using film as an analogy, a remastering would be to simply make ALL the colors brighter, removing any pops or cracks in the sound. The directors intention has not been changed. It's the same movie. Remixing would be inserting takes that were left on the cutting room floor or using versions of scenes that were taken from other angles or removing scenes. In essence, it's a different movie. Here's a definition I found: Remix
When a song or an album is said to be “remixed,” what that really means is that the song has been purposely altered to sound different than the original. This can include changing the pitch, speed, tempo, and more. Additional tracks of vocals or instrumentals may be added. The remix could also be longer or shorter than the original. A remix is often a new interpretation to suit radio play, club or DJ play, for artistic purposes, or to reach a different audience.
Remaster
When a song or album is “remastered,” this typically means the quality has been enhanced, but the original artistic intention of the recording has not be altered. Remastering can involve a transfer from analog to digital as well as an adjustment to the loudness, dynamic range, and tonal balance.As to Pepper, simply making Ringo's drums louder is not remixing, unless you did so by removing other instruments in order to not compete with the drums.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 4, 2017 5:42:06 GMT -5
A remaster often makes the whole track louder. If you make one instrument louder in respect to the others, that's remixing.
Look at the Lennon solo albums that were remixed. No new sounds were added, just the sound level of the instruments were changed.
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Post by lowbasso on Apr 4, 2017 9:53:16 GMT -5
The 10 second clip being posted on Amazon and elsewhere to promote the "new" SPLHCB is a remix. The guitars come in over the drum intro much earlier than on the original track.
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 4, 2017 11:06:00 GMT -5
Check amazon folks, there is apparently an amazing "Deluxe Box!" I am dying to know what is on those six(6) Discs!
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Post by andyb on Apr 4, 2017 14:24:09 GMT -5
A "remix" is where you go back to the "session" tapes and "mix" the song again. That mix is designated as the "original" mix and then gets "mastered" to create the "production" master for (in the old days) vinyl, cassette etc.
A "remaster" should go back to the "original" mix and create a new master for production on whatever format is needed.
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Post by markc on Apr 4, 2017 14:41:56 GMT -5
One of the discs should be Psychedelic George: 1. Love You To 2. Only a Northern Song 3. It's All Too Much 4. Blue Jay Way 5. In the First Place 6.Circles demo 7. Art of Dying demo 8. Party Seacomb 9. Within You Without You 10. Ski-ing
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Post by sayne on Apr 4, 2017 14:43:51 GMT -5
A remaster often makes the whole track louder. If you make one instrument louder in respect to the others, that's remixing. Look at the Lennon solo albums that were remixed. No new sounds were added, just the sound level of the instruments were changed. Correct.
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Post by lowbasso on Apr 4, 2017 23:20:11 GMT -5
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 6, 2017 8:54:37 GMT -5
Could we be pleasantly surprised by Apple for once?! I ordered the Box yesterday on amazon.com and fortunately had saved my Christmas amazon gift cards and used earned credit card points so I am not suffering too much from out-of-pocket costs. Folks in the U.K. seem put out by the Box price so they are examining the contents carefully to see if it is worth it. Some in the UK are ordering the Box from amazon Italy because it is cheaper.
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Post by vectisfabber on Apr 7, 2017 3:22:48 GMT -5
And some aren't ordering at all. Much as I might want it - badly! - I can't justify that sort of outlay.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 7:11:58 GMT -5
Is the remixed/ remastered SGT Pepper as over produced as the original.
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Post by lowbasso on Apr 7, 2017 9:26:00 GMT -5
Could we be pleasantly surprised by Apple for once?! I ordered the Box yesterday on amazon.com and fortunately had saved my Christmas amazon gift cards and used earned credit card points so I am not suffering too much from out-of-pocket costs. Folks in the U.K. seem put out by the Box price so they are examining the contents carefully to see if it is worth it. Some in the UK are ordering the Box from amazon Italy because it is cheaper. Steve and people like Allan Kozin commenting on this release when they get advanced copies are going to help me determine the true value of this collection. So that in mind; Steve, when do you anticipate getting your advance copy? Does this set make the 2009 remastered SPLHCB obsolete?
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Post by lowbasso on Apr 8, 2017 12:58:56 GMT -5
Could we be pleasantly surprised by Apple for once?! I ordered the Box yesterday on amazon.com and fortunately had saved my Christmas amazon gift cards and used earned credit card points so I am not suffering too much from out-of-pocket costs. Folks in the U.K. seem put out by the Box price so they are examining the contents carefully to see if it is worth it. Some in the UK are ordering the Box from amazon Italy because it is cheaper. How often do you pull out any old Beatle Bootlegs one owns, like the Yellow Dog Series, or Ultra Rare Trax Series (I bought them back in the early 90's)and listen to all the bad takes of Beatle songs? Once every few years or so? I am holding off ordering the deluxe set until Steve and my other Beatle Guru-Reviewer Allan Kozinn get their advance copies and tell me it is worth getting the discs other than the new remixed album. Outtakes just aren't as interesting to me as they once were. $150 is a lot of money to also hear a band trying to figure out what they want to do with each track......
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