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Post by sallyg on Sept 17, 2018 20:35:13 GMT -5
Back in Brazil video
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Post by sallyg on Sept 18, 2018 17:46:56 GMT -5
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Post by sayne on Sept 19, 2018 12:59:25 GMT -5
I am very glad to see Paul in the spotlight and I'm glad that the album is worth the press it's receiving. But, I have to once again write about this concept of having a number one and it's false meaning.
Paul got number 1 because the 150,000 plus he sold for the week beat out the second most. Let's say if next week he sold a million. If another album sells 1 million and one, then Paul would be number 2, even though he sold more than the first week. If he sells 12 albums and no other album does, he gets to be number 1. I think I read that Memories Almost Full sold 167,000 it's first week, but only debut at #3.
So, I am always reminding people that having a Number 1 does not mean that big a thing, in reality. It's not a measure of selling a lot. It's a measure of selling more that the next guy, regardless of the number. What is more telling his how many weeks on the charts and how many are sold when all is said and done. It's possible for an album to sell 3 million copies and never reach number 1. What would you rather have Paul have accomplished with Egypt Station? Sell millions of copies and be one of the best selling album of the year or sell 500,000 and be number one on the charts for one or two weeks?
As I said, I'm glad Paul is a household name again and that he is showing that he can still compete. But, I have to put being number 1 in the proper perspective. It's ultimately meaningless in the long run compared to other metrics.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 19, 2018 17:27:13 GMT -5
Paul is in the spotlight for the wrong damn reason: his need to tell GQ the masturbation story! Lennon & McCartney are now the laughing stock of the media and the internet. The New York Post had the headline: Beat The Meatles! I thought that masturbation story was pre-Paul in John's life. Why Paul would want to insert himself into that gross story is beyond me! That is getting more ink than the #1!
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Post by sallyg on Sept 19, 2018 19:02:49 GMT -5
Paul is in the spotlight for the wrong damn reason: his need to tell GQ the masturbation story! Lennon & McCartney are now the laughing stock of the media and the internet. The New York Post had the headline: Beat The Meatles! I thought that masturbation story was pre-Paul in John's life. Why Paul would want to insert himself into that gross story is beyond me! That is getting more ink than the #1! I think celebrities don't have to tell us their personal business or who knows maybe they make up stuff. We don't need to know everything.
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Post by sallyg on Sept 19, 2018 19:05:44 GMT -5
I am very glad to see Paul in the spotlight and I'm glad that the album is worth the press it's receiving. But, I have to once again write about this concept of having a number one and it's false meaning. Paul got number 1 because the 150,000 plus he sold for the week beat out the second most. Let's say if next week he sold a million. If another album sells 1 million and one, then Paul would be number 2, even though he sold more than the first week. If he sells 12 albums and no other album does, he gets to be number 1. I think I read that Memories Almost Full sold 167,000 it's first week, but only debut at #3. So, I am always reminding people that having a Number 1 does not mean that big a thing, in reality. It's not a measure of selling a lot. It's a measure of selling more that the next guy, regardless of the number. What is more telling his how many weeks on the charts and how many are sold when all is said and done. It's possible for an album to sell 3 million copies and never reach number 1. What would you rather have Paul have accomplished with Egypt Station? Sell millions of copies and be one of the best selling album of the year or sell 500,000 and be number one on the charts for one or two weeks? As I said, I'm glad Paul is a household name again and that he is showing that he can still compete. But, I have to put being number 1 in the proper perspective. It's ultimately meaningless in the long run compared to other metrics. I am thinking the same thing. Let's see if Paul's able to sustain his current success or if ES drops below the top 20 or the 200.
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Post by kc on Sept 19, 2018 23:13:25 GMT -5
I am very glad to see Paul in the spotlight and I'm glad that the album is worth the press it's receiving. But, I have to once again write about this concept of having a number one and it's false meaning. Paul got number 1 because the 150,000 plus he sold for the week beat out the second most. Let's say if next week he sold a million. If another album sells 1 million and one, then Paul would be number 2, even though he sold more than the first week. If he sells 12 albums and no other album does, he gets to be number 1. I think I read that Memories Almost Full sold 167,000 it's first week, but only debut at #3. So, I am always reminding people that having a Number 1 does not mean that big a thing, in reality. It's not a measure of selling a lot. It's a measure of selling more that the next guy, regardless of the number. What is more telling his how many weeks on the charts and how many are sold when all is said and done. It's possible for an album to sell 3 million copies and never reach number 1. What would you rather have Paul have accomplished with Egypt Station? Sell millions of copies and be one of the best selling album of the year or sell 500,000 and be number one on the charts for one or two weeks? As I said, I'm glad Paul is a household name again and that he is showing that he can still compete. But, I have to put being number 1 in the proper perspective. It's ultimately meaningless in the long run compared to other metrics. All true. I understand that the bulk of album sales often happen within the first few of months of release. That is, unless it happens to be one of the relative few that stay on the charts for years on end. But that is not the norm. Obviously the longer a record stays at high chart positions and on the charts at all would tend to result in higher overall sales than if it remained down at a lower region. I would say it’s generally better to have hit number one, even for just a week, than to have peaked at number 10. What is really wanted is to reach number one at some point, for the associated prestige and publicity, but to progressively accumulate big overall sales as well. I was thinking about the possibilities of total global sales for Egypt Station recently. Just going by what I have previously read on the net - mainly from UKMIX – and I hope I have this right, the last global multi-million seller Paul had was Wingspan. Several subsequent studio album releases gained one million sales, but then there was a dip with Kisses On The Bottom. About half a million sold for that album. New did not do any better. I’m hoping that Egypt Station can return to the one million range, but who knows?
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Post by sayne on Sept 20, 2018 9:37:21 GMT -5
. . . I would say it’s generally better to have hit number one, even for just a week, than to have peaked at number 10. What is really wanted is to reach number one at some point, for the associated prestige and publicity, but to progressively accumulate big overall sales as well. . . [/quote]
I agree with you that there is a prestige to having a Number 1, even though it ultimately doesn't mean much in real terms. It has been frustrating that people like Neil Diamond, Bob Dylan, Barbara Streisand, and other "legacy" performers get Number Ones and Paul had not. I could never figure out how Paul, a person who is arguably the most loved and respected pop/rock performer in the world could never get even his own fans to come out to buy his records. They come out in spades for concerts and get excited when they see him on talk shows, but record purchases, no.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 20, 2018 16:55:56 GMT -5
I agree with you that there is a prestige to having a Number 1, even though it ultimately doesn't mean much in real terms. It has been frustrating that people like Neil Diamond, Bob Dylan, Barbara Streisand, and other "legacy" performers get Number Ones and Paul had not. I could never figure out how Paul, a person who is arguably the most loved and respected pop/rock performer in the world could never get even his own fans to come out to buy his records. They come out in spades for concerts and get excited when they see him on talk shows, but record purchases, no. I am still seething that Chaos And Creation In the Backyard was not a monster hit as it was a masterpiece, Paul's mature Solo Revolver! On the 2005 Macca Tour, it was mass exodus time whenever Paul played a new song off it!
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Post by sallyg on Sept 20, 2018 19:01:26 GMT -5
I agree with you that there is a prestige to having a Number 1, even though it ultimately doesn't mean much in real terms. It has been frustrating that people like Neil Diamond, Bob Dylan, Barbara Streisand, and other "legacy" performers get Number Ones and Paul had not. I could never figure out how Paul, a person who is arguably the most loved and respected pop/rock performer in the world could never get even his own fans to come out to buy his records. They come out in spades for concerts and get excited when they see him on talk shows, but record purchases, no. I am still seething that Chaos And Creation In the Backyard was not a monster hit as it was a masterpiece, Paul's mature Solo Revolver! On the 2005 Macca Tour, it was mass exodus time whenever Paul played a new song off it! I too think that Chaos and Creation in the Backyard should have been a monster hit and even a number one album. The album has a lot of great songs and besides ES, I have been listening to C&C a lot lately.
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Post by kc on Sept 20, 2018 19:36:28 GMT -5
. . . I would say it’s generally better to have hit number one, even for just a week, than to have peaked at number 10. What is really wanted is to reach number one at some point, for the associated prestige and publicity, but to progressively accumulate big overall sales as well. . . I agree with you that there is a prestige to having a Number 1, even though it ultimately doesn't mean much in real terms. It has been frustrating that people like Neil Diamond, Bob Dylan, Barbara Streisand, and other "legacy" performers get Number Ones and Paul had not. I could never figure out how Paul, a person who is arguably the most loved and respected pop/rock performer in the world could never get even his own fans to come out to buy his records. They come out in spades for concerts and get excited when they see him on talk shows, but record purchases, no.[/quote] I don't understand this either, but Paul McCartney has come up with an antidote. Bundle the CD with the concert tickets to get a combined sale and he suddenly gets a number one - even if only for one week.
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Post by sallyg on Sept 22, 2018 10:13:19 GMT -5
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Post by sallyg on Sept 25, 2018 16:51:17 GMT -5
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Post by sayne on Sept 26, 2018 17:28:00 GMT -5
I don't know the sales numbers, but just to give a hypothetical to illustrate my point, it would be possible for Paul to drop down to #8, but have sold more than last week.
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Post by sayne on Sept 26, 2018 17:33:33 GMT -5
I have a question for any lawyers on this board. I was looking at the liner notes for Egypt Station and saw that most songs were copyrighted by "MPL Communications Inc" while Fuh You was copyrighted by "MPL Communications Ltd" and administered by MPL Communications Inc.
What does this all mean? Inc, Ltd, administered by . . .
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Post by sallyg on Sept 26, 2018 19:40:16 GMT -5
I don't know the sales numbers, but just to give a hypothetical to illustrate my point, it would be possible for Paul to drop down to #8, but have sold more than last week. Yes, absolutely possible for Paul to have sold more this week than last week. Still in the top 10. Not that bad at all. On another matter, Paul will be on 60 minutes Sunday Sept 30th 7:30 EST 7PM PT on CBS. www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-mccartney-beatles-speaks-with-60-minutes/
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 26, 2018 21:33:53 GMT -5
I don't know the sales numbers, but just to give a hypothetical to illustrate my point, it would be possible for Paul to drop down to #8, but have sold more than last week. Yes, absolutely possible for Paul to have sold more this week than last week. Still in the top 10. Not that bad at all. On another matter, Paul will be on 60 minutes Sunday Sept 30th 7:30 EST 7PM PT on CBS. www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-mccartney-beatles-speaks-with-60-minutes/Thanks for the heads up. I was just watching Survivor from earlier tonight and saw the ad for it. "What's it like hanging out with a Beatle?" 60 Minutes has a big audience. That should help sell the album!
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 27, 2018 11:11:34 GMT -5
I have a question for any lawyers on this board. I was looking at the liner notes for Egypt Station and saw that most songs were copyrighted by "MPL Communications Inc" while Fuh You was copyrighted by "MPL Communications Ltd" and administered by MPL Communications Inc. What does this all mean? Inc, Ltd, administered by . . . "Fuh You" was co-written with the guy who produced it but I don't know why it would thus be under the Ltd rather than the Inc. I don't know anything about copyright law!
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Post by sallyg on Sept 27, 2018 20:02:09 GMT -5
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Post by winstonoboogie on Sept 30, 2018 13:10:07 GMT -5
I have a question for any lawyers on this board. I was looking at the liner notes for Egypt Station and saw that most songs were copyrighted by "MPL Communications Inc" while Fuh You was copyrighted by "MPL Communications Ltd" and administered by MPL Communications Inc. What does this all mean? Inc, Ltd, administered by . . . "Fuh You" was co-written with the guy who produced it but I don't know why it would thus be under the Ltd rather than the Inc. I don't know anything about copyright law! Yes. Is JoeySelf still around? Hey Mr. Self - we need your help!
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Post by sayne on Oct 2, 2018 14:25:23 GMT -5
After listening to the CD several times, I can say that I like it a lot. Better than New for me (not that that album was a slouch). Since Flaming Pie, Paul has nothing to be embarrassed about in regards to his albums. He continues to prove that he is in a class by himself. That's not to suggest that others have not put out better records than him, but as he has gotten older he remains to be competitive. He may not always get to the World Series or Super Bowl, but he is always in the playoffs.
The thing I like about Egypt Station are the little sonic things he does here and there. Backwards guitars, Indian scales, use of sitar sounding strings, insertion of strings here and there, etc all make for a record that will always reveal something that one may not have heard upon previous listenings.
I would love to hear this album in its entirety during the middle of a concert set.
Dominoes is my favorite song. For me, in represents what Dylan has said about Paul. That he can fall out of bed and drop a hook. This song seems so effortless. It has 3 parts, each melodic in their way, and each part more melodic that the previous one.
Paul has always had the burden of his Beatles material to bring down objective evaluation of his solo material, but I will argue that just about every post-Beatles album he has done has had at least one song (often more) that is worthy enough to be on a Beatles album. With some 18 post-Beatles albums of original material, if we even just say one Beatle quality song per album, who else can say they have 18 songs good enough to be on a Beatles album? Egypt Station is no different with at least half the songs that would sit comfortably with songs on any Beatles album.
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Post by kc on Oct 2, 2018 23:12:56 GMT -5
Excellent set. It has given me so many ear worms. I think it's wonderful that we have had strong new studio albums from both Ringo and Paul in the less than the space of a year.
I managed to source a copy of the Target/HMV exclusive edition, which is otherwise unavailable in Australia, from Ebay. Both of the bonus tracks, Get Started and Nothing For Free, are very good, IMO. I have heard that there are further unreleased tracks from the Egypt Station sessions still in the can. If so, I want them ASAP.
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Post by joeyself on Oct 3, 2018 10:48:55 GMT -5
"Fuh You" was co-written with the guy who produced it but I don't know why it would thus be under the Ltd rather than the Inc. I don't know anything about copyright law! Yes. Is JoeySelf still around? Hey Mr. Self - we need your help! Sorry, I have no clue about such matters. All I learned about copyright in composing the "My Sweet Lord/He's So Fine" article, I have long since forgotten. JcS
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Post by winstonoboogie on Oct 6, 2018 11:57:46 GMT -5
Yes. Is JoeySelf still around? Hey Mr. Self - we need your help! Sorry, I have no clue about such matters. All I learned about copyright in composing the "My Sweet Lord/He's So Fine" article, I have long since forgotten. JcS
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Post by sayne on Oct 7, 2018 17:37:19 GMT -5
Well, 3 weeks on the charts and down to #55. Pretty fast drop. So, is Egypt Station still a commercial success? As I said earlier, we will have to wait for total sales and number of end-of-year "best of"mentions. At this point, I think A Star is Born is going to get every and most awards (not that I think it's that great).
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Post by sallyg on Oct 7, 2018 20:49:36 GMT -5
Paul's show at the ACL Music Fest in Austin TX was streamed live on Facebook tonight. You can watch it recorded at least for a while. They took the link for the show down unfortunately.
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 8, 2018 22:00:53 GMT -5
Well, 3 weeks on the charts and down to #55. Pretty fast drop. So, is Egypt Station still a commercial success? As I said earlier, we will have to wait for total sales and number of end-of-year "best of"mentions. At this point, I think A Star is Born is going to get every and most awards (not that I think it's that great). Out here in the Heartland, there is "A Star Is Born-mania" among mostly females. You ask a good question about ES. I am not playing it any more. I am fully into the Deluxe Imagine Box Set which is amazing. The "Raw Mixes" CD is absolutely amazing, John and his group of musicians(including George on a few tracks) at their best.
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Post by sallyg on Oct 9, 2018 20:11:32 GMT -5
Paul's Austin City Limits show Oct 7 . He will have another ACL show on Friday Oct 12.
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Post by debjorgo on Oct 9, 2018 22:28:15 GMT -5
Paul's Austin City Limits show Oct 7 . He will have another ACL show on Friday Oct 12. I'm watching this! Great show! Thanks Sally!
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Post by sallyg on Oct 10, 2018 3:37:43 GMT -5
New video for Come On To Me
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