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Post by John S. Damm on May 20, 2017 12:15:47 GMT -5
I wish they would have moved some channels around and given the Beatles Channel 9. Then, when they do commercials, the announcer can say, "All Beatles all the time on Sirius. Channel Number 9, Number 9, Number 9." Brilliant idea, sayne, and a marketing home run! That should have happened! They would have to change "The Nineties on 9" and that might cause an uproar like when Sirius canceled "The Forties on 4" because its marketing research showed all the really old geezers weren't subscribing to Sirius/XM. I was outraged because I liked to tune in to 1940's music! Where else do we hear that? Rock and Roll has really made everything before it forgotten! It was music I could listen to for maybe a half hour at a time but I liked going there. What is wild is 1950's music is getting old! Firstie 1950's fans are getting up there in age! I knew I was getting older when "Oldies Radio" now defines itself as the 1960's and 1970's!! 1950's music has been dropped by most Oldies stations as being too old!
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Post by John S. Damm on May 20, 2017 12:18:13 GMT -5
LOL, I'm listening! What does the app cost? Is it the Sirius/XM app? I now have a iPhone 7 after years of refusing to get a smart phone despite everybody blowing me shit about it(maybe that is why I delayed it!). Yes, it's the Sirius/XM app. It's free and you don't need an account. You will have access to all their programming. Unbelievable, thanks!
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Post by debjorgo on May 20, 2017 13:34:36 GMT -5
I punched Ringo's She's About a Mover cover up on youtube. I like it, It's a pretty good version.
Old Wave is one of the few Ringo album I don't have. Right now it's $84.95 on amazon. I guess I'll have to keep wanting it.
I'm sure I could get a digital copy.... No, turns out I can't.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 20, 2017 15:32:34 GMT -5
Hey JSD -- check out this fan report I read online:
"Heard a lot of unusual tracks- "Some Other Guy", "Bad Boy", "A Dose Of Rock N Roll" (forgot how good that one is), "Miss O'Dell", "Mumbo", lots of BBC stuff. Liking it a lot."
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Post by John S. Damm on May 20, 2017 15:57:14 GMT -5
Hey JSD -- check out this fan report I read online: "Heard a lot of unusual tracks- "Some Other Guy", "Bad Boy", "A Dose Of Rock N Roll" (forgot how good that one is), "Miss O'Dell", "Mumbo", lots of BBC stuff. Liking it a lot." Wow, I missed "Mumbo!" That means it is in circulation though! I know we have friendly debates on Solo versus Beatles as lowbasso enjoys Solo but savors Beatles while members like me really enjoy both although I recognize the Beatles members were at their best when all four members were on the same page and playing together but it is the Solo material that will keep this new Beatles Channel from going stale simply because of the volume of Solo as really it goes from 1969 to 2017. If limited to the Beatles catalog it would quickly start repeating but I am hoping the mixing of all Solo material helps keep it all fresh! Has anyone heard anything from Paul's Chaos, Electric Arguments, Memory Almost Full or New yet? I have been hearing some great McCartney but it seems to be older Solo McCartney and don't get me wrong, anything played from The JSD Postulate era is good by me but I want to hear modern McCartney like we have heard modern Ringo. BTW, I heard George's "Dark Sweet Lady" there last night and what a great radio song! I only ever hear it when playing the wonderful George Harrison album but it sounded great standing on its own, mixed in with Beatles songs and what-not!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 20, 2017 16:07:29 GMT -5
Has anyone heard anything from Paul's Chaos, Electric Arguments, Memory Almost Full or New yet? I have been hearing some great McCartney but it seems to be older Solo McCartney and don't get me wrong, anything played from The JSD Postulate era is good by me but I want to hear modern McCartney like we have heard modern Ringo. I haven't heard recent Paul (or Ringo) yet, but someone said he heard Paul doing "Early Days".
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Post by coachbk on May 20, 2017 20:57:09 GMT -5
I heard several versions of songs not from the albums today. If I Fell and Slow Down from BBC and Till There Was You from the Royal Command Performance.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 21, 2017 8:21:07 GMT -5
Has anyone heard anything from Paul's Chaos, Electric Arguments, Memory Almost Full or New yet? I have been hearing some great McCartney but it seems to be older Solo McCartney and don't get me wrong, anything played from The JSD Postulate era is good by me but I want to hear modern McCartney like we have heard modern Ringo. I haven't heard recent Paul (or Ringo) yet, but someone said he heard Paul doing "Early Days". I am hearing a lot of new Ringo as mentioned and I think that is a big win for Ringo, getting his newer stuff aired! I did hear Paul's "So Bad" so at least I heard something from the 1980's! I have heard "Maybe I'm Amazed" at least four times but to Sirius' credit, it has been different versions of it! I heard John's "Love" from Acoustic just this morning and it was great, I like that version better than the POB version. That sounded so good on the radio! Hey riffing on what JoeK said, I have now heard a cover twice, albeit a great cover by St. Paul and The Broken Bones doing Paul's "Let Me Roll It" which would make Paul proud! But WTF, there are literally a million Beatles/Solo Beatles covers, we shouldn't be repeating on covers yet! If I was the station manager, I would have my summer intern find as many Beatles/Solo covers as possible and play them from A to Z and then repeat but that would take months! Man, and a warning to my fellow Beatles' fanatics, I was with a friend last night and we were playing The Beatles Channel on our way to dinner and when she tried to talk I kept quieting her so I could hear and that did not go over well! Not only is The Beatles Channel addicting but it could hurt Beatles' fanatics' social life as we get too focused on it!
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Post by sayne on May 21, 2017 9:57:30 GMT -5
Has anyone heard anything from Paul's Chaos, Electric Arguments, Memory Almost Full or New yet? I have been hearing some great McCartney but it seems to be older Solo McCartney and don't get me wrong, anything played from The JSD Postulate era is good by me but I want to hear modern McCartney like we have heard modern Ringo. I haven't heard recent Paul (or Ringo) yet, but someone said he heard Paul doing "Early Days". I heard Save Us. With so many repetitions people are reporting, I'm wondering if we're getting an "introductory" version, since it's free to everyone. Then, when they "go live" and are left with only the people who have subscribed to Sirius after May 30th, it will be more substantive and less tailored to the casual fan. Either way, I hope the station lasts.
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Post by lowbasso on May 21, 2017 13:18:02 GMT -5
I love solo stuff being played. Then when a beatles song comes along, the difference is astounding. They also play songs that inspired The Beatles like Elvis and Holly, and all the Motown songs they ended up covering in Hamburg and early albums.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 21, 2017 17:00:49 GMT -5
This morning my girlfriend and I embarked on an hour-long drive and had Sirius on. (We then drove an hour back home afterward). I have a new routine that any time a too-familiar Beatles overplayed tune comes on, I simply change stations or shut the radio OFF all together. Seriously - it is starting to make me dislike certain Beatles classics, as they're so over-aired!
As soon as I hear "Come Together", "Ob La Di..", "Lucy In The Sky..", "Get Back", "Hello Goodbye" (etc, etc) that baby gets SILENCED. Then I tune in when there are more unusual Beatles songs heard, like: "I'm A Loser", "Tell Me What You See", "I'll Cry Instead", "Old Brown Shoe", or seldom-aired "BBC Tracks"...
I have heard some amazing solo tunes thrown in here and there. During the ride out this morning I heard Ringo's powerful "The Other Side Of Liverpool" (2010)... and then during the ride back, I heard "Y Not". I am not as big on the song "Y Not", but Ringo's "The Other Side Of Liverpool" is a huge improvement over yet another tired spin of "Act Naturally", "With A Little Help From My Friends", or "Yellow Submarine"! .... And yesterday I heard the LIVE version of Ringo's excellent "Back Off Boogaloo" from the VH1 Storytellers show.
Just a little while ago I was amazed to hear "Angela", from SOMETIME IN NYC..
There are repeats even with the solo.. I have heard "Oh My My" three times now, and TWO times within two hours! (??). I have heard "Goodnight Vienna" 3 times.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 21, 2017 21:53:12 GMT -5
Okay, despite all the really cool stuff, there are too many repeats. I heard "I Want You(She's So Heavy)" three, yes three, times within a five hour period today! Great song but that is a lot of repeats when there is so much other material!
Likewise, I heard "Hey Jude" twice today! But I thought of sayne and JoeK as this morning I heard "My Valentine!" But I also heard "So Bad" yet again!
The best things I heard today was "Happiness Is A Warm Gun"(I was wondering when and if I would hear that) and "Johnny B. Goode" from BBC 1.
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Post by debjorgo on May 21, 2017 22:14:51 GMT -5
This reminds me of back in the late '70s, when I was but a young lad, as they say. I think I've told this here before but it's been a long while.
One of the local a.m. stations was changing their format to all big band music. Radio being what it was and is, we were all fairly tired of the regular tunes we were hearing all day on our favorite stations. (Too much repetition.) We were going to give big band a listen. Something different.
We were enjoying it quite a bit. The second hour, Pennsylvania 6-5000 came up again. I think it started the first hour. Why did they have to play it again? I think we were pretty much done with the station. 40 years of Big Band and there was only 1 hour's worth of good music.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 22, 2017 13:31:43 GMT -5
I am hearing too many repeats! I know The Beatles and Solo Beatles catalog is finite but there is too much stuff I have not heard yet so when I keep hearing "Nowhere Man"(I have heard this the most of any song even though I love it) but not "I'm So Tired"(I am not saying this has not been played, I just haven't heard it yet) I get frustrated. There is still cool stuff and that is what frustrates me, I am afraid to listen to anything else least I miss something! I heard a great segue today of Jerry Lee Lewis covering "I Saw Her Standing There" to The Beatles iconic cover of "Long Tall Sally!" The only thing cooler would have been if they had Little Richard doing a Beatles' cover!
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Post by debjorgo on May 22, 2017 16:50:41 GMT -5
I am hearing too many repeats! I know The Beatles and Solo Beatles catalog is finite but there is too much stuff I have not heard yet so when I keep hearing "Nowhere Man"(I have heard this the most of any song even though I love it) but not "I'm So Tired"(I am not saying this has not been played, I just haven't heard it yet) I get frustrated. There is still cool stuff and that is what frustrates me, I am afraid to listen to anything else least I miss something! I heard a great segue today of Jerry Lee Lewis covering "I Saw Her Standing There" to The Beatles iconic cover of "Long Tall Sally!" The only thing cooler would have been if they had Little Richard doing a Beatles' cover! If this was Jerry Lee's version of I Saw Her Standing There from Last Man Standing, it has Little Richard on it. Richard does the "Woooo"s and sings along on the chorus.
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Post by debjorgo on May 23, 2017 16:32:11 GMT -5
My friend at work who has Sirius mentioned the station today. He said he heard Wilson Picket's version of Hey Jude.
I'm waiting for him to say he's heard a solo song he liked. He's a big Beatle's fan but doesn't get into the solo stuff at all.
One thing I hadn't thought about were the covers. That would be the only tracks I hadn't heard before, or already own.
Has anybody heard any Beatle kids music on the channel?
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Post by John S. Damm on May 23, 2017 19:08:23 GMT -5
Has anybody heard any Beatle kids music on the channel? Great question! No, I have not! Beatles' kids should be played but it doesn't fit in any of the quickly growing stale categories! LOL, maybe they can play Julian doing the live "Day Tripper" in the Covers section! Dhani has done some of hios Dad's songs too. There should be a category for Beatles family members' music but of course that would open the door for Yoko music and to a much lesser extent Linda McCartney. That would shut this station down.
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Post by debjorgo on May 23, 2017 20:03:55 GMT -5
Has anybody heard any Beatle kids music on the channel? Great question! No, I have not! Beatles' kids should be played but it doesn't fit in any of the quickly growing stale categories! LOL, maybe they can play Julian doing the live "Day Tripper" in the Covers section! Dhani has done some of hios Dad's songs too. There should be a category for Beatles family members' music but of course that would open the door for Yoko music and to a much lesser extent Linda McCartney. That would shut this station down. I don't know. I really like Seaside Woman! Of course that's really more of a Paul and Linda McCartney and Wings song. Sean's done a few John songs over the years too.
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Post by lowbasso on May 23, 2017 21:45:25 GMT -5
Great question! No, I have not! Beatles' kids should be played but it doesn't fit in any of the quickly growing stale categories! LOL, maybe they can play Julian doing the live "Day Tripper" in the Covers section! Dhani has done some of hios Dad's songs too. There should be a category for Beatles family members' music but of course that would open the door for Yoko music and to a much lesser extent Linda McCartney. That would shut this station down. I don't know. I really like Seaside Woman! Of course that's really more of a Paul and Linda McCartney and Wings song. Sean's done a few John songs over the years too. The first time I hear a Yoko song on this channel, I will lodge a complaint. Second time, I'm done.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 23, 2017 23:20:42 GMT -5
On a positive note, at around 9:30 p.m. tonight I heard Wings "Backwards Traveller/Cuff Link" a real deep track and then after "Norwegian Wood" they played "My Sweet Lord 2000" which is cool but on the bad side, the pre-recorded voice before the song stated: "What was the first Solo Beatles song to reach #1, it was George Harrison's 1970 "My Sweet Lord" and here it is."
But as I say, they played "My Sweet Lord 2000" which was not the #1 version so that was deceptive and not accurate. Oh well. I enjoyed hearing George's late-in-life remake of MSL.
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Post by debjorgo on May 23, 2017 23:49:11 GMT -5
On a positive note, at around 9:30 p.m. tonight I heard Wings "Backwards Traveller/Cuff Link" a real deep track and then after "Norwegian Wood" they played "My Sweet Lord 2000" which is cool but on the bad side, the pre-recorded voice before the song stated: "What was the first Solo Beatles song to reach #1, it was George Harrison's 1970 "My Sweet Lord" and here it is." But as I say, they played "My Sweet Lord 2000" which was not the #1 version so that was deceptive and not accurate. Oh well. I enjoyed hearing George's late-in-life remake of MSL. I agree. I don't like that either. Our man Paul was always afraid to release alt versions; afraid people would confuse the 'inferior' alt with the real. MSL 2000 is not bad but it is not the first number 1 solo Beatles song.
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Post by coachbk on May 24, 2017 8:45:12 GMT -5
I heard "Dance Tonight" yesterday and I heard a very nice Ringo song I'd never heard before that I assume was from one of his later albums. called "Imagine Me Here".
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Post by John S. Damm on May 24, 2017 8:53:57 GMT -5
On a positive note, at around 9:30 p.m. tonight I heard Wings "Backwards Traveller/Cuff Link" a real deep track and then after "Norwegian Wood" they played "My Sweet Lord 2000" which is cool but on the bad side, the pre-recorded voice before the song stated: "What was the first Solo Beatles song to reach #1, it was George Harrison's 1970 "My Sweet Lord" and here it is." But as I say, they played "My Sweet Lord 2000" which was not the #1 version so that was deceptive and not accurate. Oh well. I enjoyed hearing George's late-in-life remake of MSL. I agree. I don't like that either. Our man Paul was always afraid to release alt versions; afraid people would confuse the 'inferior' alt with the real. MSL 2000 is not bad but it is not the first number 1 solo Beatles song. This Beatles Channel needs to do a better job of identifying the version of songs it is playing. On my car stereo screen it will sometimes say, for instance, "I Feel Fine" (2009 Stereo Re-master) which is cool to know. And sometimes it will likewise tell us if it is a BBC version but not always! Yesterday, the BBC version of "Do You Want To Know A Secret" was played but Sirius did not identify it as such so I understand Sir Paul's concerns. As good as the BBC version is, it is not the original studio version. I am all for alternative versions being played but identify them as such!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 24, 2017 10:35:13 GMT -5
I agree. I don't like that either. Our man Paul was always afraid to release alt versions; afraid people would confuse the 'inferior' alt with the real. MSL 2000 is not bad but it is not the first number 1 solo Beatles song. This Beatles Channel needs to do a better job of identifying the version of songs it is playing. On my car stereo screen it will sometimes say, for instance, "I Feel Fine" (2009 Stereo Re-master) which is cool to know. And sometimes it will likewise tell us if it is a BBC version but not always! Yesterday, the BBC version of "Do You Want To Know A Secret" was played but Sirius did not identify it as such so I understand Sir Paul's concerns. As good as the BBC version is, it is not the original studio version. I am all for alternative versions being played but identify them as such! My car radio screen only has enough room to fit the song title if it's not too long - so I never get to see all the information. I agree that I want to have all alternative versions identified, but let's at least be grateful that they're bothering to play the unusual stuff at all! I like everyone reporting which songs they're hearing (especially the more unusual tracks). I have still not heard the studio version of SHE LOVES YOU, though I have heard other typically overplayed Beatles songs several times. (Now I just press the next button and listen to "Elvis Radio" until the tired old Beatles song is done). I'm grateful for this and don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but I have yet to hear either YESTERDAY or HEY JUDE! Has anyone heard IMAGINE? I haven't yet, which is odd. (Though I'm OD'd on that one too).
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Post by John S. Damm on May 24, 2017 11:56:26 GMT -5
I have heard the studio "She Loves You" once and I have heard "Hey Jude" twice, The Beatles' classic version.
I have not heard "Yesterday" or "Imagine" either and I agree that is odd. I finally heard "Two Of Us"(LIB version) and that was great to hear. I was thrilled to have heard "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" as I was afraid that might get censored. But no "I'm So Tired," "Yer Blues" or "Sexy Sadie." I got out of the car right before they played "Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me And My Monkey" so I was glad to hear that got played.
I am definitely not hearing as much Solo John as I am from the other three but that could just be my luck of the draw as to when I listen. I am hearing a ton of Solo Paul, George and Ringo and I will say again that Ringo seems the big winner from this new station as far as new exposure goes.
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Post by markc on May 24, 2017 14:35:51 GMT -5
I have heard Imagine once and the No-No song three times, the album version twice and a live version once. I also heard the remake of Backoff Boogaloo, I think from Stop and Smell the Roses. Also heard obscure George soundtrack song Shanghai Surprise.
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Post by debjorgo on May 24, 2017 17:27:24 GMT -5
I don't have the channel. I have everything they could play and more on my iPod, except the covers by other artists. I'm not as worried as Paul about any confusion over the versions. Someone coming in fresh, has a lot to learn. That's a big part of the fun. I just don't like, in the example above, how My Sweet Lord was billed as the first number 1 solo song, and then they played the remake. It just seemed they were being way too lazy; not paying attention to what the were doing.
My Beatle fan and sirius owner at work, told me today he'd heard a George song and he thinks, a Paul song this morning that he liked and had not heard before.
I'm kind of downplaying my interest a little. I don't want to scare him off, but I think he must had caught on that I was disappointed not to hear what the songs were. He said he guessed he would have start writing the song titles down.
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Post by debjorgo on May 24, 2017 17:31:57 GMT -5
I have heard Imagine once and the No-No song three times, the album version twice and a live version once. I also heard the remake of Backoff Boogaloo, I think from Stop and Smell the Roses. Also heard obscure George soundtrack song Shanghai Surprise. Shanghai is a bonus track on Cloud Nine now. Great song!
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 24, 2017 17:48:47 GMT -5
I don't have the channel. I have everything they could play and more on my iPod, except the covers by other artists. I'm not as worried as Paul about any confusion over the versions. Someone coming in fresh, has a lot to learn. That's a big part of the fun. I just don't like, in the example above, how My Sweet Lord was billed as the first number 1 solo song, and then they played the remake. It just seemed they were being way too lazy; not paying attention to what the were doing. My Beatle fan and sirius owner at work, told me today he'd heard a George song and he thinks, a Paul song this morning that he liked and had not heard before. I'm kind of downplaying my interest a little. I don't want to scare him off, but I think he must had caught on that I was disappointed not to hear what the songs were. He said he guessed he would have start writing the song titles down. The problem is that they usually do not announce the tiles etc. you have to read it on the screen. We as older Beatles fans have to realize that most of the listeners to this station are not as familiar with the Beatles material as we are and they are looking for some of the hits. This is similar to the problem Paul has with making his play lists for his concerts now. What to leave in what to leave out as Bob Seger said and in the case of the radio programming how often to repeat which songs. I say they should stay away from repeating songs for days at a time. There is enough material. The Beatles recorded about 250 songs (300 with the BBC recordings etc.). The solo Beatles recorded approximately 700 songs (excluding live takes). If you add it up that's at least 1,000 songs and more if you get into the archives and alternate takes. That is plenty of material. Also, I would like to see something like Uncle Brucie come in and spin some records on a Saturday night and take requests. They are dong a good job. More special programming and MORE SOLO MATERIAL! Its nice to think that Paul will have a place where his new album can be heard on a relatively contemporaneous basis. Maybe he can come on a DJ his record like John did with Walls and Bridges. P.S. Mean Mr. Mayo (Joe K) you are great on your podcasts. You have a great personality and come across well and good looking in the bargain (you're not going to overtake Mrs. RTP but I like to give credit). And JSD you are right, the solo work --the best of which has its own brilliance-- will keep this station fresh. There is so much of it. But balance all with some talk/special programming features regularly.
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Post by sayne on May 24, 2017 18:03:40 GMT -5
This morning I heard Dylan sing Things We Said Today. I never knew he recorded it. I think other people covering Beatles songs will be my favorite part of the station.
And, they played Norwegian Wood followed by Dylan's 4th Time Around. Brilliant!!!!!
Addendum: I listed the wrong Beatle song sung by Dylan. Changed.
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