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Post by John S. Damm on May 24, 2017 22:56:38 GMT -5
I don't have the channel. I have everything they could play and more on my iPod, except the covers by other artists. I'm not as worried as Paul about any confusion over the versions. Someone coming in fresh, has a lot to learn. That's a big part of the fun. I just don't like, in the example above, how My Sweet Lord was billed as the first number 1 solo song, and then they played the remake. It just seemed they were being way too lazy; not paying attention to what the were doing. My Beatle fan and sirius owner at work, told me today he'd heard a George song and he thinks, a Paul song this morning that he liked and had not heard before. I'm kind of downplaying my interest a little. I don't want to scare him off, but I think he must had caught on that I was disappointed not to hear what the songs were. He said he guessed he would have start writing the song titles down. The problem is that they usually do not announce the tiles etc. you have to read it on the screen. We as older Beatles fans have to realize that most of the listeners to this station are not as familiar with the Beatles material as we are and they are looking for some of the hits. This is similar to the problem Paul has with making his play lists for his concerts now. What to leave in what to leave out as Bob Seger said and in the case of the radio programming how often to repeat which songs. I say they should stay away from repeating songs for days at a time. There is enough material. The Beatles recorded about 250 songs (300 with the BBC recordings etc.). The solo Beatles recorded approximately 700 songs (excluding live takes). If you add it up that's at least 1,000 songs and more if you get into the archives and alternate takes. That is plenty of material. Also, I would like to see something like Uncle Brucie come in and spin some records on a Saturday night and take requests. They are dong a good job. More special programming and MORE SOLO MATERIAL! Its nice to think that Paul will have a place where his new album can be heard on a relatively contemporaneous basis. Maybe he can come on a DJ his record like John did with Walls and Bridges. P.S. Mean Mr. Mayo (Joe K) you are great on your podcasts. You have a great personality and come across well and good looking in the bargain (you're not going to overtake Mrs. RTP but I like to give credit). And JSD you are right, the solo work --the best of which has its own brilliance-- will keep this station fresh. There is so much of it. But balance all with some talk/special programming features regularly. RTP, it is awesome to have you back! Tonight I listened to Fab Four Forum (I think it is called that) and it was at times painful. A caller was pressed to say what songs he would have cut from the White Album to make it a single album and this guy's first choice was "Her Majesty!" The poor hosts couldn't get that guy off the air soon enough!
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Post by debjorgo on May 24, 2017 23:20:03 GMT -5
I agree! Her Majesty should never had been on the White Album. But if they took that off and added Carnival of Lights, it would have still been double album.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 25, 2017 6:16:03 GMT -5
We as older Beatles fans have to realize that most of the listeners to this station are not as familiar with the Beatles material as we are and they are looking for some of the hits. First, I must concur with JSD - welcome back! I agree with you, I understand the whole idea of many of the listeners of The Beatles Channel not being familiar with much material as we are. I think that overall the station has done a great job in balancing the content between the diehard fans and the more casual fans - there is something for everyone. Hey, that is a great point I never even considered. Paul's new album (and maybe Ringo's too) may now have the added benefit of getting heard a lot on Sirius. Maybe they can even have a pre-recorded announcement before each new song: "And now - here is a song off Paul's brand new album!--" . Just imagine how great this would have worked for helping to sell past McCartney albums like MEMORY ALMOST FULL and NEW. Well, thanks for that. I think I'm less... shall we say intense... on the channel than I am here in print.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 25, 2017 10:59:22 GMT -5
Hey, I heard the White Album's "Yer Blues" last night and it was preceded by the trivia question of, "What Beatles song names both Bob Dylan and one of his song characters?" Easy enough for us here and I was excited to hear a song on this new Channel I had not heard yet!
There was a series of great John based Beatles songs last night that sounded so cool on the radio! Some were radio rarer than others but it was awesome to get a large dose of Beatles John in one sitting! I had a few days ago heard a block of Paul based Beatles songs so they might do that for all.
I am starting to get annoyed by how often the Station is playing "Power To The People" as that is one of John's weakest Solo offerings and the released version even has John butchering the lyrics as far as I can tell whenever I try to follow along with the lyrics as found in Shaved Fish.
I did hear John's "Number Nine Dream" and that is such a radio friendly song! What a beautiful offering from Solo John!
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Post by markc on May 25, 2017 12:16:56 GMT -5
Chris Carter's show this morning was very good. He played four song blocks with one from each Fab and each had it's own theme.
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Post by markc on May 25, 2017 12:18:09 GMT -5
(Sorry for the apostophe, or inverted comma as our friends call it. )
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Post by markc on May 25, 2017 12:23:45 GMT -5
Chris Carter's show this morning was very good. He played four song blocks with one from each Fab and each had it's own theme. One example: If I Needed Someone from Live In Japan Boys by Ringo and the All Stars I Saw Her Standing There by John and Elton A Day in the Life/Give Peace a Chance by Paul
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Post by John S. Damm on May 25, 2017 13:01:17 GMT -5
Chris Carter's show this morning was very good. He played four song blocks with one from each Fab and each had it's own theme. One example: If I Needed Someone from Live In Japan Boys by Ringo and the All Stars I Saw Her Standing There by John and Elton A Day in the Life/Give Peace a Chance by Paul Those are great selections. I just caught a bit on the way to work but my office is a three minute, 45 second drive from my home if I don't miss the one stoplight so that is not much listening time!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 25, 2017 15:14:29 GMT -5
Some more unusual Solo songs I've heard:
Angela (J) Goodnight Tonight (P) Little Woman Love (P) The Other Side of Liverpool (R) My Baby Left Me (J) How (J) Only People (J) Pure Smokey (G) Cheer Down (G) Backwards Traveler (P) Hopeless (R) Behind That Locked Door (G)
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Post by stavros on May 25, 2017 16:38:31 GMT -5
Some more unusual Solo songs I've heard: Angela (J) Goodnight Tonight (P) Little Woman Love (P) The Other Side of Liverpool (R) My Baby Left Me (J) How (J) Only People (J) Pure Smokey (G) Cheer Down (G) Backwards Traveller (P) Hopeless (R) Behind That Locked Door (G) A few hidden gems there Joe. Angela is actually one of the standout tracks on the much maligned SINYC album. Can't get Sirius in the UK as a far as I know. Maybe there's an app? I don't know. But enjoying the little conversation that's developing. Have any 'Anthology' tracks been played? 'Come and Get It', 'What's the New Mary Jane", "Not Guilty" etc?
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Post by John S. Damm on May 25, 2017 18:58:02 GMT -5
Yes! Yes! At about 5:30 p.m. I heard Paul McCartney & Wings' "Single Pigeon" and it was fantastic on its own and on the radio! Postulate Era Paul at his best!
This song never really gets singled out for praise but most of us just lump it in as another Side 2 RRS track. But listening to it on its own on the radio really enhanced it in my mind.
It was immediately followed by "From Me To You" and "Single Pigeon" more than held its own ground against The Beatles third Parlophone single!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 26, 2017 6:30:55 GMT -5
It was immediately followed by "From Me To You" and "Single Pigeon" more than held its own ground against The Beatles third Parlophone single! I would have listened to "Single Pigeon" and then promptly turned the sound off upon deciphering the opening "Da Da da's" on "From Me To You" for the gazillionth time.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 26, 2017 7:41:19 GMT -5
Some more unusual Solo songs I've heard: Angela (J) Goodnight Tonight (P) Little Woman Love (P) The Other Side of Liverpool (R) My Baby Left Me (J) How (J) Only People (J) Pure Smokey (G) Cheer Down (G) Backwards Traveller (P) Hopeless (R) Behind That Locked Door (G) A few hidden gems there Joe. Angela is actually one of the standout tracks on the much maligned SINYC album. Can't get Sirius in the UK as a far as I know. Maybe there's an app? I don't know. But enjoying the little conversation that's developing. Have any 'Anthology' tracks been played? 'Come and Get It', 'What's the New Mary Jane", "Not Guilty" etc? At the moment I think I heard some of the live tracks from there, but not others. But I'm sure they must be playing Anthology stuff at times where I haven't been listening. Because they have tapped into all sorts of odd stuff like the BBC recordings and studio outtakes like Take 2 of "I Saw Her Standing There".
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Post by John S. Damm on May 26, 2017 11:18:13 GMT -5
This morning I got into the car just in time to hear the tail end of the very rare Ringo song "Who's Your Daddy?". This went right into the oversaturated "Ob La Di Ob La Da" , and so I turned the radio off for awhile. I happened to turn it on again just in time to hear the LIVE version of George's "Beware of Darkness". I started to fear when I heard the intro to Chris Carter's "Breakfast With The Beatles" show, as we started out with great but "don't need to hear them again for a few months" retreads like "For No One," "If I Fell", and "Something" --- however, there was a 1974 radio ad with John Lennon promoting Ringo's GOODNIGHT VIENNA album - and followed by Ringo's "Only You" (which itself I have heard at least 3 times now). I heard this same rough span as I heard the live "Beware Of Darkness" then "Something" a bit later and I definitely heard the John promo plug for Ringo's underappreciated GV album and yes, I once again heard his cover of "Only You" which is good because it has John strumming an acoustic guitar with John and Harry on backing vocals but come on, like JoeK, this is at least my third time hearing it and they are playing it more than it got played in 1974!! I mentioned "Only You" early on in this Thread! In fairness I did hear once the main version of "Goodnight Vienna" which was totally cool, you don't hear that much on the radio unless a specific Beatles show, LOL which I guess this Channel is, one big Beatles special! BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS THE WOMAN AT THE FRONT DESK JUST DELIVERED MY PEPPER BOX!! I am busy today and cannot skip the afternoon of work to play it but I have it! Amazon tracking was telling me it would be delivered by 8:00 p.m. and I was freaking out because my office is not opened until then! But I have it! Hurray!
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Post by John S. Damm on May 26, 2017 15:12:11 GMT -5
Back to Beatles Channel, I guess it was Chris Carter this morning as JoeK mentioned(I didn't catch who the host was) but there was a clever segue of "Live And Let Die"(the classic Wings' single, not a later live version) and then it went right to "HELP!" but included that mock-Bond intro that appeared in the American HELP! soundtrack and even the original Red Album vinyl versions in the 1970's which has been eliminated I believe on all CD versions of the Red Album.
I thought that clever but then in "Too Much of a Good Thing," Chris played after "HELP!" the theme from Goldfinger by Shirley Bassey so I thought a bridge too far.
Hey, I heard "God" this afternoon, the studio POB version although I could not tell if it was the 2000 re-mixed version or the 2010 remastered version of the original mix as I missed the very beginning where the difference is apparent.
That was good to hear!
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 27, 2017 20:31:54 GMT -5
Hey, I heard the White Album's "Yer Blues" last night and it was preceded by the trivia question of, "What Beatles song names both Bob Dylan and one of his song characters?" Easy enough for us here and I was excited to hear a song on this new Channel I had not heard yet! There was a series of great John based Beatles songs last night that sounded so cool on the radio! Some were radio rarer than others but it was awesome to get a large dose of Beatles John in one sitting! I had a few days ago heard a block of Paul based Beatles songs so they might do that for all. I am starting to get annoyed by how often the Station is playing "Power To The People" as that is one of John's weakest Solo offerings and the released version even has John butchering the lyrics as far as I can tell whenever I try to follow along with the lyrics as found in Shaved Fish. I did hear John's "Number Nine Dream" and that is such a radio friendly song! What a beautiful offering from Solo John! It reminds me of how good the solo material is and I hope all the listeners concur. I heard Single Pigeon from Red Rose Speedway. They will prove JSD's postulate about Wild Life and RRS -- great tracks!
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Post by John S. Damm on May 28, 2017 13:31:03 GMT -5
It reminds me of how good the solo material is and I hope all the listeners concur. I heard Single Pigeon from Red Rose Speedway. They will prove JSD's postulate about Wild Life and RRS -- great tracks! Yeah, I heard it too as mentioned above and it was great! No one ever hears "Single Pigeon" alone(unless their iPhone or iPod is on shuffle) and it kind of gets lost on Side 2 of RRS but standing alone it is a fine radio song! I was shocked how awesome it was over the radio! It made me sad because that is the "Classic McCartney singing voice" I wish Paul still had for his newest offering, especially songs like "My Valentine" and things off New. Solo Beatles is another big winner from The Beatles Channel!
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Post by John S. Damm on May 29, 2017 11:51:41 GMT -5
I heard Paul's rare "Rainclouds" this morning and that was cool. Saturday I also heard "Working Class Hero" which I was not sure we would hear.
My number one question now is has anyone heard John's "How Do You Sleep?" With Paul doing promo messages for this new Beatles Channel along with Ringo, I wonder if Sirius/XM was told not to play this song?
I have no idea if this song is not in rotation on The Beatles Channel but I know the song is still painful to Paul and I have not heard it nor have I heard anyone else reporting hearing it!
I would hope it does get played, it is a very good song whether one agrees or disagrees with John's lyrics!
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Post by John S. Damm on May 29, 2017 18:27:12 GMT -5
I heard "Bip Bop" today which was awesome! Postulate Era Paul lives!
I finally also heard "I'm So Tired" from the White Album!
But has anyone yet heard "How Do You Sleep?" I will not rest until I hear it as I am afraid that it is banned from this station!
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Jun 12, 2017 2:50:52 GMT -5
Some more unusual Solo songs I've heard: Angela (J) Goodnight Tonight (P) Little Woman Love (P) The Other Side of Liverpool (R) My Baby Left Me (J) How (J) Only People (J) Pure Smokey (G) Cheer Down (G) Backwards Traveler (P) Hopeless (R) Behind That Locked Door (G) Behind That Locked Door is one of George's best solo songs, if not best songs period. I am hearing a lot of good feedback about their solo recordings many people not realizing how good they are.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Jun 12, 2017 2:52:35 GMT -5
Angela is a really nice standout song from STINYC that might surprise some people Its so much fun rediscovering some of these tracks.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 12, 2017 7:42:52 GMT -5
Has anyone yet heard "How Do You Sleep?"
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Post by markc on Jun 12, 2017 12:01:10 GMT -5
This weekend I heard a live White Album set of Yer Blues, Piggies, Don't Pass Me By, and Helter Skelter.
Also it was nice to hear Your Love is Forever and Soft-Hearted Hana.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 12, 2017 19:43:11 GMT -5
I've been listening a lot, and there are so many of the same overplayed Beatles songs I'm constantly hearing. HOWEVER, here are some Beatles catalogue songs off the top of my head that I HAVEN'T heard yet.. Has anybody heard these? .... Yes It Is Happiness Is A Warm Gun Run For Your Life No Reply And Your Bird Can Sing You Know My Name Yes It Is: Yes, at least once. Happiness Is A Warm Gun: Twice and I was glad to hear it, I was afraid that it might be banned. Run For Your Life: No, I think I heard a snippet of it but not the whole song. No Reply: Twice And Your Bird Can Sing: Just today and before they played it they played the John "apology" in Chicago for the Jesus remarks which was a cool segue into it! You Know My Name: No!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 12, 2017 19:45:27 GMT -5
Has anyone yet heard "How Do You Sleep?" No, unfortunately - but I hope I do! So far from the IMAGINE album I've heard "Imagine", "Jealous Guy" and "How"... that's it. Some more untypical stuff I've heard lately: You Are Here (J) Devil Woman (R) Hong Kong Blues (G) Drumming Is My Madness (R) Joe, I seriously think "How Do You Sleep?" is banned so as not to offend Paul! I am serious. I tried to e-mail The Beatles Channel to ask but couldn't find a direct e-mail address!
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Post by debjorgo on Jun 12, 2017 21:18:49 GMT -5
It could be because How do You Sleep is not a very good song. The lyrics are cool enough but the music really drags along. It'a only about a half a step better than I Don't Want to be Soldier.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 13, 2017 9:03:29 GMT -5
It could be because How do You Sleep is not a very good song. The lyrics are cool enough but the music really drags along. . I don't think that has anything to do with it. Just about 10 minutes ago I heard George's "Be Here Now" on SiriusXM's Beatles Channel. A nice song ... but if you want to talk about a song that just drags along, I think it's tough to come up with a slower and more draggy example. I think "How Do You Sleep" is an intense song, and a good one. But even if it wasn't, do you seriously think the programmers at Sirius scan every song to decide whether it's "not very good" before playing it? First off, I do not agree with all of John's "allegations" against Paul in "How Do You Sleep?" and it is almost funny when John sneers, "Jump when your momma tells you anything." In fairness, John has been accused of doing the same and I do not care if he did, just don't criticize Paul for the same. But I think it is a great song musically and lyrically even if I don't agree with all of it. Paul got some cheap shots in on Ram whether Paul admits to all of it or not. It would be reasonable for John and the public to believe that there were several subtle digs to John there. I think Paul admits to one or something. Anyway, I shall make it my new life's goal to monitor The Beatles Channel for the playing of "How Do You Sleep?" because it exists, we cannot erase history and it is a darn fine song, John Lennon back with a bite! Joe's right that certain Beatles fans go nuts over this song. I understand it making us all uncomfortable, like being out to dinner with another couple and they argue in front of you and your significant other, but it is powerful nonetheless! Some fans go nuts because they view Paul as an all-powerful deity who could do no wrong and in many ways I have helped that with the development of The JSD Postulate because Paul used to be universally dismissed for his pre-BOTR albums. See, that is another area I disagree with John's song. Paul was doing some cool stuff post-Beatles. But Paul brought a knife(subtle Ram digs) to a gunfight with John!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 13, 2017 9:12:56 GMT -5
Overall I'm still feeling that this is a great Beatles channel and that they pretty much have a winning format and rotation. Still, I can't help but feel that familiarity is breeding contempt for me when it comes to hearing the same basic Beatles songs over and over and over and over. Before this channel, I never played The Beatles' albums each and every day; but with Sirius I am now in the car every day and hearing so many repeats. For me, here are Beatles songs I hear the most, every day it seems: Ob La Di Ob La Da I Feel Fine Back in the USSR Free As A Bird The Word Ballad of John and Yoko Drive My Car I have heard "Free As A Bird" something like 5 times, though I have never heard "Real Love" (the Beatles version - though I HAVE heard Lennon's solo "Real Love" a few times). I'm so glad they're going deep with the solo tracks. In the last two days I heard George's songs "Be Here Now" and "Can't Stop Thinking About You" for the first time. HOWEVER - there are also certain solo songs they seem to have in their repeat program. I absolutely LOVE Paul's "Junior's Farm" and "Heart Of The Country", but I've heard them way too many times already. Same thing for Ringo's "Oh My My" and "Snookeroo". I have heard Ringo's "The Other Side of Liverpool" (a song I love from Y NOT) several times. I heard Ringo's "Husband And Wives" last evening and whoa, it sounds great on the radio! And this morning I heard Julian Lennon's "I Don't Wanna Know" as we early on in this Thread wondered about The Beatles Channel playing songs from the Fab kids! But then they played an interview of Paul talking about "Hey Jude"(it was a pre-2005 interview because Paul still had his normal, cool talking voice, not the painfully hoarse one he has now) and yes, the BC played "Hey Jude" for the 1,000,000 time since its start which took some of my thrill away of hearing Julian. But like Joe, I am still captivated and addicted to The Beatles Channel and my family and friends riding with me regularly are getting a little annoyed at me for not listening to more variety in the car!
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Post by debjorgo on Jun 13, 2017 16:47:43 GMT -5
My friend at work who has the channel, hooked me up with it earlier today. I listened to it most of the day.
I don't care that much to hear the big hits I hear on the radio all the time anyway, but I enjoyed hearing A Shot of Rhythm and Blues by Arthur Alexander and That’s Alright Mama by Arthur Crudup.
They played a version of Styx doing I Am the Walrus live.
Weight of the World sounded good.
And we got “Before they were the Beatles, they listened to this”: The Times They Are a-Changin’. Oh well.
Who Can See It was another George slow number that you'd think they might skip, Be Her Now being the other that Joe mentioned earlier. In defense of playing Be Here Now, Oasis did name an album after it.
I was kind of thrown when they went into the Peter Asher hour. He played If I Were You by Peter & Gordon(?) noting the instrument in the break was an English horn. That lead into a tale about George Martin taking oboe lessons from Asher’s mother. This was well before George met the Beatles.
I don't think I'd ever heard Lovely Rita by Fats Domino. He alters a line with “when are you free to have a drink with me?” Cool enough!
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Post by debjorgo on Jun 14, 2017 17:09:44 GMT -5
I walked up on my Sirius buddy at work today. He looked like he was about ready to dose off. He had his Sirius Beatle's channel on his PC. McCartney's House of Wax was playing. I had business to discuss with him. I nearly asked about House of Wax but I didn't think the song was the best one to have the "solo Beatle's are just as good" discussion about.
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